That Oregon game was exciting. USC had a big game too- four players had over 100 yards receiving and the QB Kedon Slovis had 515 yards passing- school record. And he is just an 18 year old freshman.Originally Posted by oyarde
USC is always over ranked and sometimes Oregon too so you never really know what to expect . I knew Utah was for real though. USC probably feels like the future is bright with that kid. All that could change though if they dump the coaching staff and run a different offense......
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My Colorado has to finish at Utah. We need to win to be bowl eligible. Not too confident we can do that. We did beat ASU earlier this year and beating Washington this week pulled us out of the conference basement. Lost to USC by four- 35- 31. New coach this year- his first recruiting class has five offensive and five defensive linemen averaging almost 300 pounds. I like he is focused on the lines. Our QB is in his final year and not sure who will replace him next year. He threw too many interceptions this year- forces it too much under pressure.
Oklahoma has the #1 rated passer in the country and this week chose to run on 62% of their plays.
Check out this pass- I thought it was picked off. Shenault was considered on of the top receivers going into the season (naturally the defenses focus on him after that). He is a junior and will be back next year.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-24-2019 at 07:00 PM.
A lot of big time college basketball in action tonight , Louisville , Xavier , Colorado etc . Still five undefeated Big Ten teams
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All five starters back- we were the youngest team in the Pac-12 last year. Only two players this year are seniors- two were first team All Conference starters. Currently ranked #23. Started slow last year but won 9 of last eleven games (including two Top 20 teams) and made it to the Conference semi- finals. Big things expected- some pick us as high as #2 in the conference behind Oregon. 3-0 so far this year. Most at least in top four in conference. First real test will be December 7th at #4 Kansas.
Our live bison mascot Raplhie V will be retiring at the end of this season- her handlers are having a hard time keeping up with her sometimes as she leads the team onto the football field. A new bison will be in place next year (Ted Turner donated Ralphie V).
Low scoring game vs Wyoming. Tied at only 15 at the half.
Picked up in the second half- Colorado wins 56- 41.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-24-2019 at 08:52 PM.
Their first loss was to Auburn. Oregon blew a lead so big we went to bed. Next morning husband woke me with, “Auburn came back and won that game.”
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Talk about a tough schedule- this week Texas A&M will play the team ranked #1 in the AP poll for the third time in one season. First team ever to experience that. They also played #4 Georgia last week- losing a close one, 19- 13.
https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/te...n-same-season/
The last game LSU lost? To Texas A&M last season.Hardest schedule in history? Texas A&M becomes first team to face three No. 1 teams in same season
Aggies set to face top-ranked LSU in regular-season finale; already fell to previous No. 1′s Clemson, Alabama.
Texas A&M added to its case of having the hardest schedule in history Sunday.
With the unveiling of the latest AP Top 25, the Aggies will be the first team ever to face three No. 1 teams in a single season as they are set to travel to top-ranked LSU next Saturday in Baton Rouge, La.
The Tigers (11-0, 7-0 SEC) clinched the SEC West crown Saturday night with a 56-20 thumping of Arkansas and has held the top spot in the AP Poll for six-straight weeks now.
A&M lost to then-No. 1’s Clemson (24-10) and Alabama (47-28) earlier this season. Those Tigers and the Crimson Tide haven’t fallen far either since sitting atop the polls. Clemson (11-0, 8-0 SEC) came in at No. 3 in this week’s poll and is only behind other undefeated teams LSU and Ohio State. Alabama (10-1, 6-1 SEC) sits at No. 5 and its lone loss was a 46-41 defeat to LSU.
More at link.
I despise A&M, but they always play tough.
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This seems like it's going to end up being a pretty accurate take. Beat ND. Loss to psu and probably osu. Won the other games they were supposed to win. Will finish 9-3.
Top 10 team in talent. Probably the 7th 8th best team in the country. Not even looking bad against OSU but something missing. So many ridiculous small mistakes against the really good teams like osu and psu that you can't make and win
Last edited by Krugminator2; 11-30-2019 at 01:04 PM.
#1 Ohio State up big in the third quarter over Michigan- 42-16. #3 Clemson leading S. Carolina 38-3 in the 4th and #4 Georgia 38-7 over Georgia Tech in the late third.
#15 Auburn upsets #5 Alabama 48- 45. Auburn had a 100 yard pick-six for a TD and just before the half were given one second to try a 52 yard field goal which they made (and won by three). Alabama ran a kickoff back 98 yards for a TD. Alabama missed a 20 yd field goal with about two minutes left (they had first and goal from the ten and could not score).
LSU out to an early 21-0 lead over Texas A&M in the first quarter of that one. Just scored on a 78 yard pass play. 231 total yards to 26.
LSU leads 31-0 at the half.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-30-2019 at 07:41 PM.
Bedlam (OU-OSU) began. Little sign of defense so far, with a touchdown every three minutes.
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-first-4-years
Alabama drops out of top 5 in AP poll for first time in 4 years
Alabama dropped to No. 9 in The Associated Press college football poll, snapping the Crimson Tide's record streak of 68 appearances in the top five.
The top four teams in the AP Top 25 presented by Regions Bank were unchanged, with LSU at No. 1, followed by Ohio State, Clemson and Georgia. Utah moved up to No. 5, followed by Oklahoma, Florida and Baylor.
The Crimson Tide lost to Auburn in a wild Iron Bowl on Saturday to give them two regular-season losses for the first time since 2010. The four-spot drop by Alabama broke a string of top-five appearances that began Nov. 8, 2015.
The week before the Tide's run started, it had been seventh, and it had been as low as 12th earlier that season. Alabama passed the old record for consecutive top-five appearances of 55 by Miami (Oct. 8, 2000-Oct. 26, 2003) last season.
Wisconsin moved up three spots to No. 10 after routing Minnesota. The Gophers dropped six spots to No. 15.
AP Top 25
1. LSU (40) 12-0
2. Ohio St. (19) 12-0
3. Clemson (3) 12-0
4. Georgia 11-1
5. Utah 11-1
6. Oklahoma 11-1
7. Florida 10-2
8. Baylor 11-1
9. Alabama 10-2
10. Wisconsin 10-2
11. Auburn 9-3
12. Penn St. 10-2
13. Oregon 10-2
14. Notre Dame 10-2
15. Minnesota 10-2
16. Memphis 11-1
17. Michigan 9-3
18. Iowa 9-3
19. Boise St. 11-1
20. Appalachian St. 11-1
21. Cincinnati 10-2
22. Virginia 9-3
23. Navy 9-2
24. Southern Cal 8-4
25. Air Force 10-2
RANKED vs. RANKED
Pac-12 championship: No. 5 Utah vs. No. 13 Oregon at Santa Clara, Calif., on Friday.
Southeastern Conference championship: No. 1 LSU vs. No. 4 Georgia at Atlanta.
Big Ten championship: No. 2 Ohio State vs. No. 10 Wisconsin at Indianapolis.
Atlantic Coast Conference championship: No. 3 Clemson vs. No. 22 Virginia at Charlotte, N.C.
Big 12 championship: No. 6 Oklahoma vs. No. 8 Baylor at Arlington, Texas.
American Athletic Conference: No. 21 Cincinnati at No. 16 Memphis.
You all can keep buying the media line that Ohio State is the best team in the country if you want to. What I will say is that this phony system is set up to hand them a championship and to disrespect the SEC. This does a disservice to the game. Since the only time OSU actually took the gift that was handed to them, the trophy has been traded off between Clemson and Alabama. I’m sure those two teams wonder if they could have played a better team than Ohio State, and they might have liked the chance. Every week the Southeastern Conference suits up and plays like they are in an elimination game because they are.
I am beyond disappointed in the way the media do this every single year. They will never concede that football exists outside the pedophile conference. Sorry, but there you go. The fact that the media only looks at their own poll and they apply a different metric every time is just ridiculous. And oddly, they aren’t talking about sending two teams from any other conference to the faux playoffs.
Go figure.
And Geaux Tigers.
Last edited by euphemia; 12-29-2019 at 01:04 AM.
Only two highly over ranked teams I see in the current standings are constants , Florida and USC. The others all look to have earned the spot . Only three undefeated which are all top 3 .
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One plays in a conference that barely has a pulse and other one fills their no conference schedule with a bunch of little girls. Florida has underperformed this year, but they are a very good team.
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Best teams money can buy. Few schools can afford to spend the money schools like Ohio State do their budget for athletics is over $100 million. Figures from ten years ago- they are even higher now.
https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/inside...zed%20swimming.
What do you get for $109 million a year? Jon Weinbach on Ohio State’s record-breaking budget.
At $109,382,222 for the current year, Ohio State’s athletic budget is the largest in the nation and the biggest in the history of college sports. It allows the school to field 36 varsity teams in everything from baseball and soccer to riflery and synchronized swimming. The school spends about $110,000 on each of its 980 athletes, which is triple the amount the university spends per undergraduate on education.
The budget for this academic year allots $65,000 in private jet time, or roughly 11 hours, to men’s basketball coach Thad Matta for recruiting trips over 200 miles — and a further 15 hours of jet time for the coach’s personal travel. A just-completed $19.5 million renovation of the football team’s practice facility, funded with a large donation from Limited Brands Chief Executive Leslie Wexner, added a players-only entrance, a lounge that has six flat-panel TVs, three videogame systems and a juice bar. “There’s always a race to get up there after practice,” says Jake Ballard, a sophomore tight end for the football team that enters this weekend ranked No. 1 in the country.
The men’s and women’s ice-hockey teams train on a $75,000 hockey treadmill that features a lubricated, ice-like surface that tilts at sharp angles and goes as fast as 16 miles per hour. Men’s hockey coach John Markell solicited a donor to buy the equipment, which he says has become a key part of players’ workouts. It’s a machine most college teams — and even many National Hockey League clubs — haven’t purchased. “We don’t have the space or resources for that,” says a spokesman for the Anaheim Ducks, last season’s Stanley Cup champions.
Here in Columbus, the OSU athletic department is a gold-plated island in a region getting roiled by harsh economic forces. The lavish program is the most vivid example of how college sports have turned into a humongous business and created a parallel universe of high-living in the world of academia. OSU’s athletic budget, which has grown 46% in five years, has expanded despite a prolonged downturn in the Ohio economy and several rounds of public-funding cuts to higher education. The state’s median household income fell 9.3% between 2000 and 2005, one of the worst declines for any state during that span.
Foreclosures and Poverty
Ohio has the nation’s highest rates for foreclosures and delinquent mortgages, and during the second quarter of 2007, 22.9% of Ohio homeowners with subprime loans were over 90 days late — almost twice the national average, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association in Washington, D.C. The state is home to two of the five poorest cities in America — Cleveland and Cincinnati, both of which had more than 25% of residents living below the poverty line in 2006, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. Ohio has been ravaged by the struggling U.S. auto industry and the forces of globalization. From 2000 to 2006, the state lost about 200,000 manufacturing jobs and added just 40,000 new positions to offset the decline. Companies such as Mr. Coffee, Rubbermaid and Hoover closed plants and shifted production abroad.
From 2002 to 2005, the Ohio Legislature decreased annual support for the state’s universities. In response, OSU instituted its highest annual tuition increases in nearly 40 years, boosting rates nearly 60% from 2002 to 2006.
Ohio State was one of just 19 schools to turn a profit on athletics in 2006, according to data collected by the NCAA. OSU says its athletic department is self-sufficient — it uses sports revenues to pay for its teams and operations. It doesn’t draw from the same budget that’s used to fund academic departments. How much the athletic department spends is determined by how much it brings in, not by how much the university decides to give it. A 2005 economic-impact study, commissioned by OSU, estimated that the school’s sports program pumps over $100 million a year into the local economy, with more than a third coming from Buckeyes fans’ spending on hotels, food, parking and shopping.
In a sports-mad country, why Columbus? The alma mater of track star Jesse Owens, golfer Jack Nicklaus and basketball Hall of Famer John Havlicek, Ohio State has a long history of passionately supporting its athletes. OSU’s teams are the premier sports attraction in Columbus, Ohio’s state capital and biggest city, and the school has the largest enrollment in the country, with more than 52,000 students. TV broadcasts of OSU games routinely attract 60% of all local viewers, and in Columbus, the OSU football coach’s Sunday-morning chat show gets better ratings than “Meet the Press.”
Supporting the program is seen as a civic virtue. Over the past five years, giving to the Buckeye Club has increased an average of 12%. The booster club’s membership of nearly 3,700 is up 32% from 2003. In addition to Mr. Wexner, a 1959 OSU graduate, prominent donors include Robert Schottenstein, CEO of M/I Homes Inc., one of the country’s largest home builders.
The enormous financial rewards for successful programs have fueled an arms race among schools to build larger, more lavish venues that can ring up millions from luxury suites and sponsors. Over the past five years, schools in the NCAA’s top six sports conferences raised more than $3.9 billion for new sports facilities, according to the Chronicle of Higher Education.
At Oklahoma State, oil and hedge-fund mogul T. Boone Pickens gave $30 million to renovate the football stadium, and put his name on it. He has also committed $165 million more to build an “athletics village” on campus. Nike founder Phil Knight recently donated $100 million to Oregon’s athletic department, which plans to use the money as a safety net to cover potential operating losses. The department still plans to ask for public funds to build a $200 million basketball arena.
Other big spenders include the University of Texas-Austin, which has the nation’s second largest sports budget at $107.6 million, although it fields 16 fewer teams than Ohio State. Last year, the Longhorns’ athletic department paid $152,585 for nutritional supplements like Gatorade and PowerBars.
Preserving ‘Opportunities’
The football and men’s basketball programs at OSU are the only sports there that turn a profit — and their revenues support teams other universities have eliminated for lack of funding. “We never want to get into the business of taking opportunities away from students,” says Gene Smith, OSU’s athletic director.
Ohio State’s varsity synchronized swimming team competes in a two-year-old, $20 million facility, nicknamed the “Taj Mahal,” that features seven bodies of water and two whirlpools for athletes to relax in during competitions. A multimillion-dollar renovation of the school’s “Scarlet” golf course, completed last year and overseen by Mr. Nicklaus, added a short-game practice area and enlarged the course to over 7,400 yards. OSU’s pistol team maintains a supply of about 30 firearms for the team’s 11 members, and all shooters receive an array of free Nike gear, including polo shirts, a jacket and shoes. “We’re a good-looking team,” says James Sweeney, OSU’s pistol coach since 1999. This year, for the first time ever, OSU’s rifle and pistol teams received scholarship money to recruit top competitors.
At other schools, there is a more Darwinian approach to smaller sports. Last year, Rutgers cited budget shortfalls for its decision to cancel six sports, including swimming, men’s tennis and fencing. But the athletic department still gave assistant football coaches a sizable raise, completed a $12.5 million renovation of football’s training complex, and is in the midst of a stadium renovation that will add nearly 10,000 seats.
At Ohio State, “nonrevenue” sports such as men’s lacrosse and women’s track don’t have to worry about earning their funding. Excluding football and basketball, OSU’s other 34 teams generate about $1.5 million in revenue. Last year, for example, expenses for the women’s hockey team totaled a little over $1.2 million while the sport brought in just $1,642, all of it from arena concessions. Many sports, including rifle, pistol, and women’s fencing, don’t contribute any revenue at all. “I’m sure my scholarship is possible because of the football team,” says Lindsay Quintiliani, a sophomore goalie on the field hockey team.
Last season, Ohio State’s football program generated about $57 million in revenue. The sum included a $4.75 million payment from the NCAA for advancing to the national championship game and $31.65 million in ticket sales from home games at Ohio State’s 105,000-seat stadium. Team expenses, which include nearly $2 million for meals and travel, as well as debt payments to cover stadium renovations, subtracted about $21 million. Still, football supplied nearly $36 million in profit to the athletic department’s coffers. The University of Florida, which beat OSU for the national championship in January, made about $34 million on football last year.)
OSU’s men’s basketball team, which moved into a new, 19,500-seat arena in 1998, advanced to last year’s national championship game and turned a record $9 million profit.
A significant chunk of the athletic department’s budget is spent in ways that benefit the school’s general fund. This year, the athletic department will spend $12 million on scholarships or “Grantin- Aid” to pay for athletes’ tuitions. A few years ago, the department contributed $5 million to help fund renovations to the campus’s main library. OSU’s sports program is also among the few that pays for all maintenance, security and operating costs at its facilities. (The utilities bill at the football stadium last year: $731,309.) In addition, the athletic department transfers about $1.7 million to the school’s academic-support center to pay for tutors and “life skills” workshops for athletes. “I think we’re paying somebody $25 an hour to tutor physics,” says Mr. Smith.
Last year, the issue of swelling athletic-department budgets was taken up in Washington by the House Ways and Means Committee and the Senate Finance Committee. In a strongly worded letter to NCAA President Myles Brand, former Ways and Means Committee Chairman Bill Thomas criticized “highly paid coaches with no academic duties,” and wrote that Division I football and men’s basketball “more closely resemble professional sports than amateur sports.”
Judy Bunting oversees OSU’s 46 cheerleaders and four student mascots. Her team gets about $169,000 from the athletic department, and supplements it with interest income from a special endowment established by a donor a few years go. “We probably have more scholarship money than most,” says Ms. Bunting. In contrast to the spirit squads at Notre Dame and UCLA, OSU’s cheerleaders get seats on the football’s team’s chartered jets. “That’s a big plus,” she says. “We used to drive vans and fly commercial.”
cheerleaders get seats on the football’s team’s chartered jets. “That’s a big plus,” she says. “We used to drive vans and fly commercial.”
No doubt the top-flight schools in the SEC match that. Not Vanderbilt. Their stadium is not as nice as some high school stadiums here in town.
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Anyone watching the PAC-12 championship? Oregon is giving Utah an old fashioned thumping.
Last edited by euphemia; 12-29-2019 at 01:05 AM.
Utah put up about 180 yards and 9 first downs with no points in the first half . Kind of hard to do until you factor in a turnover and go 0 - 6 on third down . Trail 20 -0 and I think Oregon gets the ball first in the third. Utah has been the best team in that conference for two years solid . Hands down.
Last edited by oyarde; 12-06-2019 at 08:58 PM.
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That will knock the Pac12 out of the playoff picture. Oklahoma gonna like that- gives them a better chance. Assuming they can beat Baylor in the Big 12 Championship. Oregon up 20-0 at the half.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 12-06-2019 at 09:00 PM.
This may be the season of the transfer quarterback. Alabama’s rejected guy went to Oklahoma. Ohio State’s spurned guy is leading the charge at LSU.
Last edited by euphemia; 12-29-2019 at 01:06 AM.
I bet the spread in the press box at Levi stadium is vegan or something .
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Utes get a 3 and out , finally convert a 3rd & 10 and get on the board , trail 20 - 7 .
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Luckily, the massive storm that was supposed to be at Levi Stadium today never arrived. Weatherman is a joke profession. “Eh, there’s clouds on this satellite picture. They might move this way or that, they might disappear, nobody knows, but here’s what will happen for the next 7 days”.
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Utes at mid field looking to cut this to a one score game .
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I just took a quick shower and asked husband, “Has Oregon started blowing the lead yet?” That’s how they opened their season. Against the team that is arguably the third- or fourth-best team in the SEC.
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Utes trailed by 20 at Half , 14 min later have cut it to 8 by scoring 15 . There are 16 min to play.
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The Baylor - OK and Cincy - Memphis games should be good .
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LSU obviously has a case for number one based on resume. But OSU has three guys who will finish high in Heisman voting. OSU is one of the best college ever assembled. Doesn't mean they will win. But LSU doesn't much defense. Hard for a fair minded person to say they are better.
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