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    He needs to. The liberals aren't going to vote for him whether or not he enacts any forms of gun control. All he's really deciding is if he wants to piss off the conservatives or not. He's already pissed off some people with the bump stock ban.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    President Trump realizes it is a slippery slope and so he has backed off. I believe the he is listening to a lot of strong second amendment people.
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    This was possibly the plan all along (I don't like it if it was) or the result of Don Jr. talking to him.
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    Does Trump need to talk to Rand now?

    Has Rand said anything since supporting Red Flag laws?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    This was possibly the plan all along (I don't like it if it was) or the result of Don Jr. talking to him.
    The NRA called and reminded him that supporting it could cost him votes. He flipped immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The NRA called and reminded him that supporting it could cost him votes. He flipped immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The NRA called and reminded him that supporting it could cost him votes. He flipped immediately.
    Why would the NRA oppose red flag laws?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Why would the NRA oppose red flag laws?
    Maybe the prefer green ones? I know they don't like white ones.

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    Good. Hopefully he doesn't change his mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Maybe the prefer green ones? I know they don't like white ones.
    For record, the NRA fights every day to pass reasonable gun laws to restrict gun owners in a sensible, common sense way.

    I'm sure the NRA is hard at work even now, drafting reasonable red flag laws for our congress to look at.

    It's very rude for you to disparage the NRA's good name by suggesting they would oppose life-saving red flag laws. They aren't some right wing extremist organization like the GOA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Why would the NRA oppose red flag laws?

    They don't. They've endorsed them for quite some time now and have probably even helped write the damned things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    For record, the NRA fights every day to pass reasonable gun laws to restrict gun owners in a sensible, common sense way.

    I'm sure the NRA is hard at work even now, drafting reasonable red flag laws for our congress to look at.

    It's very rude for you to disparage the NRA's good name by suggesting they would oppose life-saving red flag laws. They aren't some right wing extremist organization like the GOA.

    It's sad when brilliant satire so accurately reflects actual reality. +rep
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    For record, the NRA fights every day to pass reasonable gun laws to restrict gun owners in a sensible, common sense way.

    I'm sure the NRA is hard at work even now, drafting reasonable red flag laws for our congress to look at.

    It's very rude for you to disparage the NRA's good name by suggesting they would oppose life-saving red flag laws. They aren't some right wing extremist organization like the GOA.
    As long as we can still hunt, as per the rights granted in the 2nd amendment (muskets and blunderbuss)

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    Background checks may not be off the table yet. Says he will have some new gun proposals after Congress comes back in September.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...checks-1470901

    On Wednesday, Trump and multiple White House aides accused several media outlets of inaccurately reporting that Trump had told gun rights advocates he would not push to expand background checks. They noted that while the president has never expressed support for "universal" background checks, he has also not backed away from a commitment to exploring other changes.

    "There are all types of background checks," said Trump senior adviser Kellyanne Conway. "If somebody is disturbed, if someone needs treatment, if someone should not have a firearm because of a criminal background, a felony, mental health issues, we have to make sure those folks do not procure firearms. But we cannot confiscate weapons from Americans who are procuring them and using them legally without due process. The president is not beholden to the [National Rifle Association] or other gun groups. The president is beholden to the Constitution."
    On Wednesday he reiterated that position, saying that “I have an appetite for background checks — we’ll be doing background checks. We’re working with Democrats, we’re working with Republicans, and we already have very strong background checks.
    It remains unclear exactly what Trump will recommend, though, adding little clarity to the president's confounding remarks on the subject in recent weeks. Trump and his aides on Wednesday would only say that the president will offer ways to close "loopholes" in the background check system, while declining to reveal any details.

    The White House did not give a timetable for the proposals — which will likely include other legislation and executive actions addressing domestic terrorism, violent video games and mental health treatment — but suggested that the package would be timed to Congress's return in early September. The president received a formal briefing on Tuesday from his staff about the possible options, according to a White House official.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post

    President Trump realizes it is a slippery slope and so he has backed off. I believe the he is listening to a lot of strong second amendment people.

    ^This.



    This is huge if confirmed as non-fakenews. Where are all the conservative purist GOA leaders now who had used f-word about MAGA and had questioned his sincerity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    As long as we can still hunt, as per the rights granted in the 2nd amendment (muskets and blunderbuss)
    I bagged a 210 inch buck with a bow last year

    That kill was made possible by the 2A, it applies to all hunting weapons, not just muskets
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    Trump seems to backtrack on gun control
    Again? Which direction this time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    ^This.



    This is huge if confirmed as non-fakenews. Where are all the conservative purist GOA leaders now who had used f-word about MAGA and had questioned his sincerity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    For record, the NRA fights every day to pass reasonable gun laws to restrict gun owners in a sensible, common sense way.

    I'm sure the NRA is hard at work even now, drafting reasonable red flag laws for our congress to look at.

    It's very rude for you to disparage the NRA's good name by suggesting they would oppose life-saving red flag laws. They aren't some right wing extremist organization like the GOA.
    Absolutely. Not to mention they show they aren't extremists by contributing immensely to the hunting safety classes to teach kids about the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I bagged a 210 inch buck with a bow last year

    That kill was made possible by the 2A, it applies to all hunting weapons, not just muskets
    A bow? The militia didnt hunt with bows. Are we talking about the same constitution?

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    I don't know about "listening", I mentioned this in another thread about red flag laws, that Trump is just saying as cover for the news cycle. For the most part, he knows where he needs to be on 2A




    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I bagged a 210 inch buck with a bow last year

    That kill was made possible by the 2A, it applies to all hunting weapons, not just muskets

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