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    Are illegals causing new Measles outbreak?

    Seems like the elephant in the room no one wants to talk about because opolitical correctness

    https://www.alipac.us/f9/dori-illega...tbreak-369660/

    The measles outbreak, which now has 35 confirmed cases, has been likely linked to a church in Clark County, according to KOMO 4.

    As we know, there are a lot of parents in a celebrity-influenced subculture who believe vaccinations cause autism. Measles were largely eradicated in the U.S. until several years ago, which makes this all the more alarming.
    But there is one issue here that nobody is talking about.

    You may remember, a couple of weeks ago we were talking about how Yakima had a record number of homicides in both the city and the county. The sheriff said that he was looking for a common link between the crimes. I had the sheriff on the show and asked how many of the perpetrators and victims were illegal immigrants. They don’t know.

    Contacts in Yakima tell me that it’s widely believed there that the high number of murders is because of gang and drug activity, particularly among illegal immigrants. It’s frustrating to me that police want to find a common thread, but they won’t seek out the data that might help them find this common thread, all because of political correctness.

    Burien is another example. There were enough signatures on a petition in Burien to give voters the chance to vote on whether or not to become a sanctuary city. The city refused to give the voters a say. What we have seen is that Burien has just gone to seed. Crime is rampant. An innocent woman was hit by a stray bullet while working in her office. Two teenage girls were murdered there a year ago — that crime remains unsolved.

    When I talked to the mayor of Burien and asked how much of this is due to illegal immigrants, he said they don’t know — they don’t ask the question.

    How can you solve problems if you refuse to even seek out data because of political correctness?

    That brings me to this measles outbreak. Let me refer you to a July 2016 New York Times story — not exactly an anti-illegal immigrant news organization. The article talked about the largest measles outbreak in the country for years — which occurred at an immigration detention center in Arizona.

    The fact of the matter is, a lot of people who come into this country illegally are not vaccinated for measles. And there are large swaths of the illegal immigrant community who don’t want their kids vaccinated, whether it be due to religion or unfounded fears.

    This latest measles outbreak can likely be traced to a church in Vancouver, WA that has a large Russian population. Nobody knows the immigration status of this boy who is patient zero and his parents, because Washington is a declared sanctuary state. They’re not even allowed to ask the question.

    This is where reasons of political correctness can lead to disaster. We have to have data. We have to know the source of the murders in Yakima and the rampant gang crime in Burien, and the measles outbreak in Vancouver that is spreading throughout our state.

    There is a vacuum of knowledge because we have to be so politically correct that we cannot even ask the question. This is the game that’s being played by Jay Inslee and Jenny Durkan and Dow Constantine, and all of the people who embrace sanctuary policies.

    They try telling us that illegal immigrants have a lower crime rate than citizens. How do you know that? You can’t track it. You’re not even allowed to track it. So you just make up data because the facts may not match your social position.

    When you have a huge measles outbreak in Arizona at an illegal immigrant detention center, and when you have an immigrant-populated church in Vancouver being ground zero for this, I would like to know if the number of unvaccinated, illegal immigrants coming into this country plays a role in one of the largest outbreaks that we’ve seen in the U.S. years. We have one of the highest populations of illegal immigrants here in Washington. Is it a coincidence?

    Do we know for certain? Nope — because they’re not allowed to ask the question. This is where we have politicians who would rather stick their heads in the sand and act like their policies are bulletproof, instead of trying to collect information that would tell us one way or the other. This is another example of leftist political correct policies trumping public safety.

    Let’s at least get the data. Let’s at least ask the questions. Let’s see if there’s some connection. I’d like to know — wouldn’t you?



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    Nope. It's Israeli Flight attendants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Nope. It's Israeli Flight attendants.
    It could have more than one source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Nope. It's Israeli Flight attendants.
    Somali immigrants.

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    The illegals are definitely part of the problem, but they will use them to get the results they want.

    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin




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    The measles virus has an inherent right to migrate. If we don't want it to migrate here, we should get rid of any incentive for migration, such as not having so many warm bodies that act as hosts.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    The measles virus has an inherent right to migrate. If we don't want it to migrate here, we should get rid of any incentive for migration, such as not having so many warm bodies that act as hosts.
    I'm with ya'!

    Let's start with the petri dishes made out of concrete that have populations over 250,000...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It could have more than one source.
    Yup. Immigrants and / or Vaccines and / or additional sources...
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    Well when you have immigrants coming from third world countries it shouldn't be surprising that a lot of them might have some type of disease.
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    I crossed the Canadian border with the flu and a few Canadians caught it from me. I am sure glad they didn’t consider me life below maggot and threaten to kill Americans on sight. Who knows what strain I had, I didn’t get vaccinated from the medical industrial complex, certainly not when Romney I mean Obamacare went into effect.
    Last edited by PAF; 08-21-2019 at 08:49 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I'm with ya'!

    Let's start with the petri dishes made out of concrete that have populations over 250,000...
    Wait... Agenda21... was it 250,000 or 500,000?
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    This is NOT about migrants but forcing vaccines- Get. A. Clue.
    There is no spoon.

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    Actually most of the migrants are coming from countries which while poorer than the US have national healthcare programs and higher vaccination rates than the US. Fear mongering. US measles vaccination rate is 92%. Mexico? 96%. Honduras? 97%. Nicaragua? 99%. https://www.cato.org/blog/migrant-ca...cination-rates

    But at least the OP article admits they cannot prove their conclusions.

    Do we know for certain? Nope
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 08-21-2019 at 11:52 AM.

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    And this is exactly why Zippy wants a flood of immigrants to vote in our elections so that we too may one day have the utopian healthcare system of Nicaragua.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Actually most of the migrants are coming from countries which while poorer than the US have national healthcare programs and higher vaccination rates than the US. Fear mongering. US measles vaccination rate is 92%. Mexico? 96%. Honduras? 97%. Nicaragua? 99%. https://www.cato.org/blog/migrant-ca...cination-rates

    But at least the OP article admits they cannot prove their conclusions.
    Last edited by RJB; 08-21-2019 at 12:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    And this is exactly why Zippy wants a flood of immigrants to vote in our elections so that we too may one day have the utopian healthcare system of Nicaragua.


    We spend multiples of times more money on medical care per capita than they do and we have worse results (unless you are rich and have a good healthcare plan which take care of everything).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    We spend multiples of times more money on medical care per capita than they do and we have worse results (unless you are rich and have a good healthcare plan which take care of everything).
    I rest my case...
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    It's a shame to have developed all these germs and not be able to use them..

    Didn't the last Ebola outbreak start at a Germ Warfare Facility?

    sorry guys,,, not going to blame the victims.
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  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I crossed the Canadian border with the flu and a few Canadians caught it from me. I am sure glad they didn’t consider me life below maggot and threaten to kill Americans on sight. Who knows what strain I had, I didn’t get vaccinated from the medical industrial complex, certainly not when Romney I mean Obamacare went into effect.
    And PAF again lets it be known that he doesn't think Americans have a right to protect themselves from diseases, next time it might be Ebola or something just as bad but the lives of Americans mean nothing to him. (or even less than nothing?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    It's a shame to have developed all these germs and not be able to use them..

    Didn't the last Ebola outbreak start at a Germ Warfare Facility?

    sorry guys,,, not going to blame the victims.
    Blame isn't what's being discussed.
    Americans have a right to protect themselves and avoid being added to the list of victims.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Well when you have immigrants coming from third world countries it shouldn't be surprising that a lot of them might have some type of disease.
    Coming to the US from a third world country is not the same as coming to the US from EU or Australia. They make sure you get ALL the vaccines again before they give you visa. And you have to go to the embassy certified clinic to do it which is usually only found in the capital and costs 10x what they do at regular clinics. I had to get all my childhood vaccines again before they let me fly into the US.

    Illegals maybe but very low chance with legal immigrants carrying vaccine prevented diseases.

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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Blame isn't what's being discussed.
    Yes. It is.

    Blame the folks deliberately infected against their will,, and invited to come.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Americans have a right to protect themselves and avoid being added to the list of victims.
    Then do so. and target the Guilty rather than the victims.

    Politicians with Corporate Connections..
    Weapon Research and DEVELOPMENT Labs. (where bugs come from)
    Elitist Eugenicists,, and their followers.

    The crap has been around since throwing diseased bodies over Castle walls. only this time it is from Inside.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Yes. It is.

    Blame the folks deliberately infected against their will,, and invited to come.
    No, the cause is being traced, nobody is "blaming" them.

    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Then do so. and target the Guilty rather than the victims.

    Politicians with Corporate Connections..
    Weapon Research and DEVELOPMENT Labs. (where bugs come from)
    Elitist Eugenicists,, and their followers.

    The crap has been around since throwing diseased bodies over Castle walls. only this time it is from Inside.
    The first step is to keep the infected out so that we are alive to take on those who caused it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Yes. It is.

    Blame the folks deliberately infected against their will,, and invited to come.
    Were you victim blaming?

    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Nope. It's Israeli Flight attendants.
    It seems your real goal is to prevent Americans from keeping out certain people in order to protect themselves because you hate Americans.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It seems your real goal is to prevent Americans from keeping out certain people in order to protect themselves because you hate Americans.
    Nailed it, detective Swordsmyth Holmes.
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    Nailed it, detective Swordsmyth Holmes.
    Elementary.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Elementary.
    Highest level of education?
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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    Highest level of education?
    There is no limit to education.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    There is no limit to education.
    Oo-Raa

    Git sum.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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