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    motorcycling for youth?

    OK, I got a nephew that has expressed interest in motorcycling, I'd like to buy him a dirt bike and bring him to a course. I never had any formal training at his age ( 9). But did a lot of that myself where ever I could. Times have changed. I realize that isn't an option today in a large metropolitan area. Any suggestions how to go about this? Cheaper bike (initially) and clubs, etc?
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    I have no clue. I think it is really cool that you are willing devote the time and resources to get him started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I have no clue. I think it is really cool that you are willing devote the time and resources to get him started.
    I love that kid. He is very talented in the motor skills department. Good at sports etc.

    The hurdle is his mom. He is their only son. She is very protective.

    But, I think he would thrive in motor sports.
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    It really just depends on your area, some areas are better than others for this. I like the idea of working your way up on this kind of stuff. Bike > Mountain bike > 50cc > 90cc > 125cc >250cc. Usually the 50cc bikes are more quiet than a leaf blower so it doesn't bother your neighbors unless your neigbhors are dicks or you have cops that drive by often. Its sort of like crawling before you walk or run. Dirt bikes aren't really all that fun by yourself though so its better if you have someone to go with regularly who has similar riding skill so unless he can find a club or has friends that go out regularly it could be a big waste of money. It could be something his friends will get into if he does it. I would see if there is a place that does riding lessons if possible, its one of those things that becomes more fun when you have more riding skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    OK, I got a nephew that has expressed interest in motorcycling, I'd like to buy him a dirt bike and bring him to a course. I never had any formal training at his age ( 9). But did a lot of that myself where ever I could. Times have changed. I realize that isn't an option today in a large metropolitan area. Any suggestions how to go about this? Cheaper bike (initially) and clubs, etc?
    Look into local motocross. The grandkids race at a indoor arena here in town but I don't know what's available where you live. Might have to travel some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    OK, I got a nephew that has expressed interest in motorcycling, I'd like to buy him a dirt bike and bring him to a course. I never had any formal training at his age ( 9). But did a lot of that myself where ever I could. Times have changed. I realize that isn't an option today in a large metropolitan area. Any suggestions how to go about this? Cheaper bike (initially) and clubs, etc?
    List of Motocross tracks in MN

    https://mxtrackguide.com/motocross-tracks-minnesota

    Start him on a Honda CRF 100

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 08-17-2019 at 08:51 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    List of Motocross tracks in MN

    https://mxtrackguide.com/motocross-tracks-minnesota

    Start him on a Honda CRF 100

    Thanks for the links. I did a search but nothing good was coming up.. amazon had a really cheap bike that had good ratings . might buy him that as a starter to see his interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Thanks for the links. I did a search but nothing good was coming up.. amazon had a really cheap bike that had good ratings . might buy him that as a starter to see his interest.
    http://www.xtraactionsports.com/moto...oss-tracks.htm

    http://www.outdoortrackandtrail.com/.../MN/mnpage.htm
    Last edited by Origanalist; 08-17-2019 at 09:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Thanks for the links. I did a search but nothing good was coming up.. amazon had a really cheap bike that had good ratings . might buy him that as a starter to see his interest.
    Do yourself a favor and stay away from the gray market bikes made of Chinesium.

    You'll be better off with a used Honda than a new Chinese BrakDounOffen.
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    Thanks, nothing very close by it seems. I will call some of those places to see if they know of anything close to the cities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Do yourself a favor and stay away from the gray market bikes made of Chinesium.

    You'll be better off with a used Honda than a new Chinese BrakDounOffen.
    Ya, but I can buy a throw-away bike for a fraction of the cost of a Honda. If it does "BrakDounOffen". it will be a great learning opportunity to teach him how to repair mechanical stuff.

    If he gets interested, then I will buy a nicer one.
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    Last edited by Stratovarious; 08-18-2019 at 07:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    For a starter bike , the Chinese pit bikes are fantastic values, Amazon
    or wherever, you can verify smaller dealerships by searching youtube
    reviews , and yea you buy a used Honda or other name brand, or new of course,
    budget can always be a factor.

    For a 9 year old, nothing small and low powered is wrong, and the track might be right
    for some, but for the first few weeks , if a track is not readily accessible ,
    anywhere you can find dirt would be great, it takes a lot of time to just
    learn how to shift, or change gears if semi auto/shift assist etc.

    I'm sure some will say get him to a track right away, but just noodling around
    getting familiar with a bike takes time, he won't need prodding if he takes too
    it, after a day on any bike (small) bike , if he has the bug, it will be obvious.

    Again , if a track and pro coaching isn't available, youtube as evil as it is has
    a gazillion good dirt bike starter videos.

    My first Street Bike was a Harley , my first dirt bike was 3 mountain bikes that I tore up , then
    a full size pit bike after hundreds of hours developing semi advanced mtn bike skills, as nickers
    pointed out a mtn bike for some is not a bad place to start, but not required.

    Good on you to take the time to help him out...
    Good point, no sense in putting a kid who's never rode right on a track. They do have different brackets but one should at least be familiar with the machine, but I'm sure Danke already knows this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I love that kid. He is very talented in the motor skills department. Good at sports etc.

    The hurdle is his mom. He is their only son. She is very protective.

    But, I think he would thrive in motor sports.
    She doesn’t trust you, who guide passengers safely to their chosen destinations every day? Of all people to be safety aware, I would think you are the one would would do it best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    She doesn’t trust you, who guide passengers safely to their chosen destinations every day? Of all people to be safety aware, I would think you are the one would would do it best.
    I don't think anyone who knows me, trusts me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I don't think anyone who knows me, trusts me.
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    Maybe get him a Dirt Bike video game.

    Seriously I have wondered about these sports. When I was young had my own minibike then dirt bike. Had a friend that raced Moto Cross. Can be a pretty dangerous sport. Even joyriding on your own acreage thru the woods can be dangerous. People crash all the time. Anyone that becomes great at something usually starts when young. I figure that one day when some kid get brain damage or killed by crashing on a dirt bike, or snow skiing, or water skiing, or scuba diving, or mountain climbing, fixing up or rebuilding a car, or????.... any freaken thing, DCF and SJW will flock together to say you abused the child and were not taking proper care of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Maybe get him a Dirt Bike video game.

    Seriously I have wondered about these sports. When I was young had my own minibike then dirt bike. Had a friend that raced Moto Cross. Can be a pretty dangerous sport. Even joyriding on your own acreage thru the woods can be dangerous. People crash all the time. Anyone that becomes great at something usually starts when young. I figure that one day when some kid get brain damage or killed by crashing on a dirt bike, or snow skiing, or water skiing, or scuba diving, or mountain climbing, fixing up or rebuilding a car, or????.... any freaken thing, DCF and SJW will flock together to say you abused the child and were not taking proper care of him.
    Ya, I crashed a few times. One time lucky I had a friend riding with me. I twisted my ankle so bad I could not kick start it to get home without his help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I don't think anyone who knows me, trusts me.
    I trust you.

    ~hugs~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Ya, I crashed a few times. One time lucky I had a friend riding with me. I twisted my ankle so bad I could not kick start it to get home without his help.
    I crashed a hundred+ times as a kid, if I hadn't worn a helmet I wouldn't be here today. It was all fun as all hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Ya, I crashed a few times. One time lucky I had a friend riding with me. I twisted my ankle so bad I could not kick start it to get home without his help.
    That happens on bicycles too. I think wrecking teaches you how to crash without hurting yourself worse and to ride within your skill level. I've seen lots of people jump on a motorcycle and try to do things way above their skill level and get hurt and lots of times they were people who didn't have a lot of bicycle riding experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    OK, I got a nephew that has expressed interest in motorcycling, I'd like to buy him a dirt bike and bring him to a course. I never had any formal training at his age ( 9). But did a lot of that myself where ever I could. Times have changed. I realize that isn't an option today in a large metropolitan area. Any suggestions how to go about this? Cheaper bike (initially) and clubs, etc?

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    @Danke

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    Asked again tonight, Mom says "no."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Asked again tonight, Mom says "no."
    LOL, she sounds like a real helicopter parent- if thats the case I hope that someone else teaches them how to be human. People need to learn how to get back up after they fall down, it puts hair on their chest. Also it stops people from thrill seeking when they finally have a litle bit of control over their own destiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Asked again tonight, Mom says "no."
    Do it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Asked again tonight, Mom says "no."
    No words, sorry Danke. What about dad, or is it even relevant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    No words, sorry Danke. What about dad, or is it even relevant?

    He supports it...but mom rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I trust you.

    ~hugs~
    Thanks AF, I was feeling a bit down today, but that coming from you means a lot.
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