Trump Jr. is Advising His Father to Stand Against Gun Control

[Swordsmyth]

Count Donald Trump Jr. as someone who’s skeptical of passing gun control after recent shootings in Dayton, Ohio and El Paso, Texas.
Rebecca Ballhaus, Andrew Restuccia, and Natalie Andrews wrote at The Wall Street Journal about Trump Jr.’s concerns with certain gun control proposals such as red flag gun confiscation orders and expanded background checks.
They wrote:

Donald Trump Jr., the president’s son who often speaks with his father about his views on gun laws, has raised concerns about both red-flag legislation and about tightening background checks, according to people familiar with the matter.

BLP reported on how Trump Jr. has been a strong advocate for accessory deregulation, especially in the case of firearms suppressors. His influence was rather strong from 2017 to 2018, when Republicans had control of all branches of government and were poised to pass one of the most comprehensive firearms accessory deregulation reforms in American history.
However, this attempt was ultimately capsized after the Las Vegas shooting of 2017. Nonetheless, Trump Jr. has indirectly held a strong pro-gun presence throughout the Trump administration.
Even his father recognizes this. President Trump told supporters at a fundraiser last Friday in N.Y that “Don Jr. is my gun expert. He knows more about guns than anyone I know.”

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/hope-t...t-gun-control/

[enhanced_deficit]

Jr is really a big deal and has been showing lot of leadership potential, could be on GOP-Adelson's 2024 ticket.
Not sure why MAGA is not exposing him more in politics and cabinet meetings (instead of Ivanka who had done fund raiser of liberal progresssive Dem Cory Booker and allegedly advised MAGA to bomb Syria).


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[Swordsmyth]

What if all of this was a setup to make Don Jr. the hero to get him ready for 2024?

[Anti Globalist]

Trump Sr better listen to his son on this. Otherwise hes going to regret it.

[Occam's Banana]

What if all of this was a setup to make Don Jr. the hero to get him ready for 2024?

Then it's a fantastically foolish, dangerously cavalier and just plain goddam stupid way to go about it.

But I'm not seeing any (non-fantasy) reason to think that Junior gives a damn about guns - except insofar as he may be afraid that Daddy is in the process of shooting his re-election chances in the foot ...

EDIT: And sure enough, the OP article only seems to confirm my take:

Iowa radio host Steave Deace also chimed in saying, “When you’re president because of a grand total of less than 78,000 votes spread out over three states, you don’t have to alienate too much of your base on an issue they care about to lose.”

[Occam's Banana]

And another thing ...

[Junior's] influence was rather strong from 2017 to 2018, when Republicans had control of all branches of government and were poised to pass one of the most comprehensive firearms accessory deregulation reforms in American history.

So riddle me this: if the Republicans "had control of all branches of government," then how and why was the "strong influence" of the Republican President's son useful (or even needed, for that matter)? Unless ...

[Superfluous Man]

How does that blogger make the leap from a couple of journalists claiming that Jr. raised concerns about red flag laws to saying that he's advising his father to stand against gun control?

And for Sr. to say that Jr., who has no background at all in this issue, is his gun expert, and he doesn't even know anybody who knows more about guns than Jr. does, well that sure doesn't engender confidence in Sr. having very much access to decent pro-gun-rights advisers.

The TDS is just out of control here.

[Brian4Liberty]

What if all of this was a setup to make Don Jr. the hero to get him ready for 2024?

All of what was a setup?

I do find some humor in the prospect of a Don Jr. vs. Gavin Newsom contest. Kimberly Guilfoyle could moderate.

[nikcers]

Then it's a fantastically foolish, dangerously cavalier and just plain goddam stupid way to go about it.

But I'm not seeing any (non-fantasy) reason to think that Junior gives a damn about guns - except insofar as he may be afraid that Daddy is in the process of shooting his re-election chances in the foot ...

EDIT: And sure enough, the OP article only seems to confirm my take:

Because cash rules everything not partisanship. Thats why. The politcal parties never have control over all three branches. Most the time the majority party doesnt have that many votes over the minority party so they dont even have to buy that many politicians.

[shakey1]

If DT folds on this issue, it’ll be checkmate alright.

[tfurrh]

What if all of this was a setup to make Don Jr. the hero to get him ready for 2024?

Damn Swordy, it was a chess game after all!

[Superfluous Man]

If DT folds on this issue, it’ll be checkmate alright.

Would folding be giving in to the pro-2nd Amendment crowd that's pressuring to abandon his long-held anti-2nd Amendment principles?

Or would folding be standing by his long-held anti-2nd Amendment principles?

[TheCount]

What a bunch of absolute bull$#@!.

You know the Trumpkins are desperate when the fan fiction comes out.

[nikcers]

Would folding be giving in to the pro-2nd Amendment crowd that's pressuring to abandon his long-held anti-2nd Amendment principles?

Or would folding be standing by his long-held anti-2nd Amendment principles?

I choose to believe what I want to, don't you? Its not like you know the truth, unless you really are Trump or part of his brain trust.

[Superfluous Man]

I choose to believe what I want to

That has long been obvious.

[nikcers]

That has long been obvious.

Don't you? Or are you psychic or have the white house brain trust bugged or really are Trump himself?

[Superfluous Man]

Don't you?

No. I consider evidence.

[nikcers]

Ofcourse its just as likely that they are telling the truth but you want to believe you own narrative. Unless you have an inside source or are Trump himself. plzbetrumphimself.

[nikcers]

No. I consider evidence.

You consider evidence while making up your own narrative when you have no evidence to show. lol nice.

[nikcers]

SPIN ME A TAIL SUPERFLUOUSMAN I AM NOT ENTERTAINED.

[Superfluous Man]

Ofcourse its just as likely that they are telling the truth but you want to believe you own narrative. Unless you have an inside source or are Trump himself. plzbetrumphimself.

Trump has not been shy about this. Why doesn't he himself count as an inside source?

[nikcers]

Trump has not been shy about this. Why doesn't he himself count as an inside source?

So you are Trump himself? Holy $#@!! Can you tell me the meaning of life?

[Zippyjuan]

Then it's a fantastically foolish, dangerously cavalier and just plain goddam stupid way to go about it.

But I'm not seeing any (non-fantasy) reason to think that Junior gives a damn about guns - except insofar as he may be afraid that Daddy is in the process of shooting his re-election chances in the foot ...

EDIT: And sure enough, the OP article only seems to confirm my take:

OK- that last one may be fantasy.

[nikcers]

Not one reason LOL I can't stop laughing I wish I could rep you twice.

[Occam's Banana]

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OK- that last one may be fantasy.

Yeah, he's a big game hunter. So?

By itself, that does not indicate anything more than an NRA-style support for milquetoast "sporting" rights, at best.

But I am not a Great American like @TheTexan (maybe someday ...), so that is not what I meant when I said, "gives a damn about guns."

Is he a GOA member? Or does he at least support their purpose and agenda? Prior to his father's presidency, has he (1) clearly demonstrated support for gun rights on the basis of something other than "sportsmanship", or (2) expressed adamant opposition to so-called "assault weapon" bans, or (3) expressed adamant opposition to preemptive confiscation schemes like "red flag" laws, or (4) opposed firearms accessory regulations for reasons other than things like "hearing-loss prevention," or (5) anything else beyond the aforementioned NRA-style milquetoastery ... ?



ETA: If the answer to any of those questions is "yes," then I will be delighted to hear it. But in any case, the notion that Trump's gun-control shenanigans are some kind of ploy to set Junior up as a "hero" for dynastic purposes is grotesquely absurd. Even if such a fantasy were true, it would be, as I described it earlier, such an irresponsibly foolish, cavalier and stupid way of going about it that it would make Trump far more dangerous to gun rights than the most ardent and openly-avowed gun-grabbers. At least the "honest" gun-grabbers can be clearly and easily identified and fought against, and they stand little chance of duping otherwise sensible gun-rights supporters into supporting a supposedly "fake" gun-grabber today (i.e., Trump) just for the sake of perhaps being able to support a supposedly "real" gun-supporter 5 years from now (i.e., Junior) ...

[Swordsmyth]

All of what was a setup?

I do find some humor in the prospect of a Don Jr. vs. Gavin Newsom contest. Kimberly Guilfoyle could moderate.

Trump AND Rand voicing support for Red Flag laws etc.

O's B is right that it would be stupid and dangerous, I have already said that about any 3D chess explanation but this could be part of 3D chess.

[nikcers]

Yeah, he's a big game hunter. So?

By itself, that does not indicate anything more than an NRA-style support for milquetoast "sporting" rights, at best.

But I am not a Great American like @TheTexan (maybe someday ...), so that is not what I meant when I said, "gives a damn about guns."

Is he a GOA member? Or does he at least support their purpose and agenda? Prior to his father's presidency, has he (1) clearly demonstrated support for gun rights on the basis of something other than "sportsmanship", or (2) expressed adamant opposition to so-called "assault weapon" bans, or (3) expressed adamant opposition to preemptive confiscation schemes like "red flag" laws, or (4) opposed firearms accessory regulations for reasons other than things like "hearing-loss prevention," or (5) anything else beyond the aforementioned NRA-style milquetoastery ... ?

I dunno if we are going off rhetoric has Don Jr ever voiced support for gun control or banning guns?

[Swordsmyth]

President Trump on Thursday told supporters in New Hampshire that he would "always uphold the Second Amendment" and suggested that the construction of new mental health facilities would help curb gun violence.
The president lamented the lack of mental health institutions as he spoke about the need to keep guns away from people with mental illnesses. The comments come as the White House and Congress examine new gun laws after recent mass shootings in Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, Texas.
"It's not the gun that pulls the trigger. It's the person that pulls the trigger," Trump said, earning a roar of approval from the crowd in Manchester.

TRUMP on guns: "It's not the gun that pulls the trigger, it's the person holding the guy."

He then says "we are going to have serious consideration to building" new mental institutions, adding, "we will be taking mentally deranged and dangerous people off of the streets." pic.twitter.com/w7cZg2wKQ7
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 16, 2019

He suggested that the closure of mental institutions led to an influx of sick individuals on the streets. Trump proposed building new facilities to get those individuals help, and implied that the move would assist in the fight against gun violence.


But the president, wary of upsetting his base supporters, assured the crowd that he would not allow new laws to infringe on their access to guns.
"We can’t make it harder for good, solid, law-abiding citizens to protect themselves," he said. "We will always uphold the right to self-defense, and we will always uphold the Second Amendment."

More at: https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-ongoing-talks

[susano]

Count Donald Trump Jr. as someone who’s skeptical of passing gun control after recent shootings in Dayton, Ohio and El Paso, Texas.
Rebecca Ballhaus, Andrew Restuccia, and Natalie Andrews wrote at The Wall Street Journal about Trump Jr.’s concerns with certain gun control proposals such as red flag gun confiscation orders and expanded background checks.
They wrote:

Donald Trump Jr., the president’s son who often speaks with his father about his views on gun laws, has raised concerns about both red-flag legislation and about tightening background checks, according to people familiar with the matter.

BLP reported on how Trump Jr. has been a strong advocate for accessory deregulation, especially in the case of firearms suppressors. His influence was rather strong from 2017 to 2018, when Republicans had control of all branches of government and were poised to pass one of the most comprehensive firearms accessory deregulation reforms in American history.
However, this attempt was ultimately capsized after the Las Vegas shooting of 2017. Nonetheless, Trump Jr. has indirectly held a strong pro-gun presence throughout the Trump administration.
Even his father recognizes this. President Trump told supporters at a fundraiser last Friday in N.Y that “Don Jr. is my gun expert. He knows more about guns than anyone I know.”

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/hope-t...t-gun-control/

Thank God, because someone has to counter that idiot, Ivanka.

[susano]

Yeah, he's a big game hunter. So?

By itself, that does not indicate anything more than an NRA-style support for milquetoast "sporting" rights, at best.

But I am not a Great American like @TheTexan (maybe someday ...), so that is not what I meant when I said, "gives a damn about guns."

Is he a GOA member? Or does he at least support their purpose and agenda? Prior to his father's presidency, has he (1) clearly demonstrated support for gun rights on the basis of something other than "sportsmanship", or (2) expressed adamant opposition to so-called "assault weapon" bans, or (3) expressed adamant opposition to preemptive confiscation schemes like "red flag" laws, or (4) opposed firearms accessory regulations for reasons other than things like "hearing-loss prevention," or (5) anything else beyond the aforementioned NRA-style milquetoastery ... ?



ETA: If the answer to any of those questions is "yes," then I will be delighted to hear it. But in any case, the notion that Trump's gun-control shenanigans are some kind of ploy to set Junior up as a "hero" for dynastic purposes is grotesquely absurd. Even if such a fantasy were true, it would be, as I described it earlier, such an irresponsibly foolish, cavalier and stupid way of going about it that it would make Trump far more dangerous to gun rights than the most ardent and openly-avowed gun-grabbers. At least the "honest" gun-grabbers can be clearly and easily identified and fought against, and they stand little chance of duping otherwise sensible gun-rights supporters into supporting a supposedly "fake" gun-grabber today (i.e., Trump) just for the sake of perhaps being able to support a supposedly "real" gun-supporter 5 years from now (i.e., Junior) ...

I would guess that other than an NRA membership, Jr never the occasion to delve into the issue. Now that his father is president and the commies and their anti 2nd agenda is such a huge issue, in his father's life, Jr can't help but pay attention. Nothing wrong with that. Sometimes people aren't spending lot of time on things that aren't right in front of them. I loather hunting (and elephants ) but I'll take what I can get with moron daughter pulling daddy in the other direction. Eric is a hunter, too, so I'm sure he's backing Jr on this.