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    It's a bird... It's a plane... No, it's... Well, what IS it, exactly?

    I didn't know where else to drop this, and to be quite frank, I have no words. Therefore, let the video speak for itself. You decide whether to believe.

    As for me, I think my brain has gone on vacation because processing has come to a grinding halt.

    Don't say you weren't warned.

    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

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    So basically Socialists are just like libertarians. So many differences they will never get on the same page. Nothing to worry about then.
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    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Those meetings look very enjoyable. Maybe I should attend.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Using silent "jazz hands" instead of clapping is very inconsiderate to any blind people that may be in attendance, as well as others with limited vision privilege.
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    I'd rather not watch the video as I do not want to lose any brain cells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    I didn't know where else to drop this, and to be quite frank, I have no words. Therefore, let the video speak for itself. You decide whether to believe.

    As for me, I think my brain has gone on vacation because processing has come to a grinding halt.

    Don't say you weren't warned.

    There have been a couple of threads about this. (Here's one of them.)

    But paradoxically, while it is comical, it is also not at all a laughing matter ...

    @A Son of Liberty posted this video in another thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    The guy in that video made an excellent point. These $#@!s are NOT the delicate snowflakes their presentation suggests. Anyone as truly fragile as they make themselves out to be would indeed be unable, as PJW puts it in the OP video, "to get through a normal day [and] to leave [their houses], operate in society, and get back without emotionally liquifying." But these people are, of course, perfectly capable of functioning in a world of clapping and gendered pronouns and allegedly anxiety-inducing "triggers."

    A perfect illustration of this is the guy comrade hypocrite who shouts while he's bitching about his "sensory overload" anxiety being "tirggered" by whispers and chatter and hissing and heckling and such. He's not a snowflake. Far from it. He's an extreme control freak who gets off on aggressively asserting petty power over other people - even over his own "comrades." And the guy comrade/creature/whatever who bitches at shouty-anxiety-guy for using "gendered language" is doing exactly the same thing for exactly the same reason. (And things like "triggers" and "safe spaces" and "quiet rooms" and so forth are all just the accoutrement by which their control-freakery is implemented and exhibited.)

    And if this is how they deal with their own "comrades," can you guess how they will deal with (the other) people they despise, if they ever acquire any kind of real power?

    (That's a rhetorical question. History gives us the answer ...)

    No, these people may be comical, but they are not even the least bit funny at all ...
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 08-14-2019 at 11:35 PM.


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    Mr.Peace showed me this video last week.
    Now we keep doing the waving hands and randomly shouting "point of privilege!" "point of privilege" in the middle of our conversations.
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    and our liberty comes from our creator. It has nothing to do with government granting it. -Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    There have been a couple of threads about this. (Here's one of them: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-pronoun-usage)

    But paradoxically, while it is comical, it is also not at all a laughing matter ...

    @A Son of Liberty posted this video in another thread:



    The guy in that video made an excellent point. These $#@!s are NOT the delicate snowflakes their presentation suggests. Anyone as truly fragile as they make themselves out to be would indeed be unable, as PJW puts it in the OP video, "to get through a normal day [and] to leave [their houses], operate in society, and get back without emotionally liquifying." But these people are, of course, perfectly capable of functioning in a world of clapping and gendered pronouns and allegedly anxiety-inducing "triggers."

    A perfect illustration of this is the guy comrade hypocrite who shouts while he's bitching about his "sensory overload" anxiety being "tirggered" by whispers and chatter and hissing and heckling and such. He's not a snowflake. Far from it. He's an extreme control freak who gets off on aggressively asserting petty power over other people - even over his own "comrades." And the guy comrade/creature/whatever who bitches at shouty-anxiety-guy for using "gendered language" is doing exactly the same thing for exactly the same reason. (And things like "triggers" and "safe spaces" and "quiet rooms" and so forth are all just the accoutrement by which their control-freakery is implemented and exhibited.)

    And if this is how they deal with their own "comrades," can you guess how they will deal with (the other) people they despise, if they ever acquire any kind of real power?

    (That's a rhetorical question. History gives us the answer ...)

    No, these people may be comical, but they are not even the least bit funny at all ...
    Excellent point. You know, I feel stupid for saying this but I hadn't actually thought of it that way.
    Wow. That's pretty frightening when you see it from that angle.
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    and our liberty comes from our creator. It has nothing to do with government granting it. -Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by PursuePeace View Post
    Excellent point. You know, I feel stupid for saying this but I hadn't actually thought of it that way.
    Wow. That's pretty frightening when you see it from that angle.
    Join the club! I hadn't really thought of it that way, either (until that guy in the video ASoL posted pointed it out).

    I was too busy laughing - and too busy rolling my eyes to see what was right in front of them.

    I'm not laughing anymore ... (well, okay ... yeah, I am still laughing ... just not nearly so much ... or nearly so hard ...)
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 08-15-2019 at 04:58 AM.

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    Let's also not forget that pesky Socialist Party had also opposed Iraqi Freedom War, a $6+ Trillion capitalism project. Strong leadership then by GOP and blue dog Dems who took a firm stand for free markets, our capitalist freedoms and our way of life. Founding Fathers would lower their heads in shame if they could see how socialism has been creeping in lately.
    It's still not too late to cut all socialistic foreign aid to all parasitic regimes immediately and MAGA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Let's also not forget that pesky Socialist Party had also opposed Iraqi Freedom War, a $6+ Trillion capitalism project. Strong leadership then by GOP and blue dog Dems who took a firm stand for free markets, our capitalist freedoms and our way of life. Founding Fathers would lower their heads in shame if they could see how socialism has been creeping in lately.
    It's still not too late to cut all socialistic foreign aid to all parasitic regimes immediately and MAGA.
    And now the communist reveals himself.
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    Oops

    Have to say you're very perceptive.

    Are you socialist liberal Foreign-Firster funded GOP-Adelson supporter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    But paradoxically, while it is comical, it is also not at all a laughing matter ...
    I cannot disagree, not because those people are in themselves instrumentally dangerous in any direct fashion, but because they have the attention and apparent service of those who are. Their whinging and ceaseless carrying on threatens to bring upon us ever worse violations. So yes, while droll, they are indeed dangerous.


    The guy in that video made an excellent point. These $#@!s are NOT the delicate snowflakes their presentation suggests. Anyone as truly fragile as they make themselves out to be would indeed be unable, as PJW puts it in the OP video, "to get through a normal day [and] to leave [their houses], operate in society, and get back without emotionally liquifying." But these people are, of course, perfectly capable of functioning in a world of clapping and gendered pronouns and allegedly anxiety-inducing "triggers."
    Wait a minute - All he stated was that they are angry. He did't say they were tough. Granted, anger can be dangerous, but unless what we see in the OP is fakery, and that is not out of the question, the people in question pose comparatively little threat in and of themselves. I am never one to underestimate an adversary, but these people are not to be taken too seriously, all else equal. The one's to worry after are those behind them; the ones whipping them into their froth; the ones whose identities remain opaque to us.

    A perfect illustration of this is the hypocrite who shouts while he's bitching about his "sensory overload" anxiety being "tirggered" by whispers and chatter and hissing and heckling and such. He's not a snowflake. Far from it. He's an extreme control freak who gets off on aggressively asserting petty power over other people - even over his own "comrades."
    Perhaps, but again and unless he is a mere actor, he has not the sand to become truly dangerous beyond himself. But there are those who would come to his "rescue", were real warfare to break out. Those are the one's who pose the real threat.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    I cannot disagree, not because those people are in themselves instrumentally dangerous in any direct fashion, but because they have the attention and apparent service of those who are. Their whinging and ceaseless carrying on threatens to bring upon us ever worse violations. So yes, while droll, they are indeed dangerous.

    Wait a minute - All he stated was that they are angry. He did't say they were tough. Granted, anger can be dangerous, but unless what we see in the OP is fakery, and that is not out of the question, the people in question pose comparatively little threat in and of themselves. I am never one to underestimate an adversary, but these people are not to be taken too seriously, all else equal. The one's to worry after are those behind them; the ones whipping them into their froth; the ones whose identities remain opaque to us.

    Perhaps, but again and unless he is a mere actor, he has not the sand to become truly dangerous beyond himself. But there are those who would come to his "rescue", were real warfare to break out. Those are the one's who pose the real threat.
    I didn't say that they were "tough," either ... (I did say that they are not really the "snowflakes" they pretend to be, but that is not the same thing ...)

    And yes, they are dangerous.

    I am not speaking in the sense of mano-a-mano confrontations, or even of en masse actions "on the street" or "in the field."

    Obviously, they pose no threat as Sturmabteilung. That task will fall to others more physically and temperamentally suited to it, such as the Antifa types.

    (EDIT: For some reason, I have just recalled that Ernst Röhm was a cross-dressing boy-diddler ...)

    Rather, "the people in question" (and their spiritual kin) will be the apparatchiks who populate the commissariat, and that is the capacity in which the threat they "pose [...] in and of themselves" will be made manifest. As I said before:
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    And if this is how they deal with their own "comrades," can you guess how they will deal with (the other) people they despise, if they ever acquire any kind of real power?

    (That's a rhetorical question. History gives us the answer ...)
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 08-15-2019 at 07:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    It's still not too late to cut all socialistic foreign aid to all parasitic regimes immediately and MAGA.
    That'd be a good start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    I didn't say that they were "tough," either ... (I did say that they are not really the "snowflakes" they pretend to be, but that is not the same thing ...)
    But it can be reasonably taken as the implication. That said, if you say that is not what you meant, then I accept it as so and stand corrected.

    Obviously, they pose no threat as Sturmabteilung. That task will fall to others more physically and temperamentally suited to it, such as the Antifa types.
    Antifa = SA? Not even close. Antifa are paper tigers, yakking a big yak, but most likely lacking the sand to walk the talk in the ways your words suggest. The SA were $#@!s, but they were most assuredly not punks. Antifa are punks, not to mention they lack training and self-control. They are toddlers who present marginal material threats as they currently stand. That could change, but at this point I'm not seeing it.

    That, then, raises the question of who exactly will do the dirty work? Police? To a degree I see it, but if things go very sideways they will fold like cheap suits. They are too few and playing like you're military against a mostly compliant population isn't going to cut muster in even the slightest measure once the sheep go into warmode.

    US military? Questionable on its best days. I fully believe USMC will have nothing to do with such orders. Navy... I'd like to think they'd follow the Marines' lead. Army would almost certainly be a mixed bag and the Air Force I do not trust to the door, candy asses they tend to be.

    This leaves really only two other plausible alternates: foreign military or an as-yet secret mercenary force. I find the former the most likely. There are rumors of 100K Chinese troops holed up in Mexico. I have no idea whether it is fact, but it certainly makes sense. And of course we know there are tens of thousands of foreign troops on American soil, ostensibly engaging in joint training missions. The use of foreign military makes sense precisely because we are fairly sorely hated by much of the world, largely thanks to our shyte foreign policy since the late 40s, likely leaving foreign troops with no reticence to kill Americans.

    A private merc army would make sense on the same basis, but makes no economic sense. National troops are part of the standard national overhead. A private force would be difficult to finance and nearly impossible to conceal.

    Therefore, the most plausible threat, IMO, issues from foreign military. The utility of groups like antifa lies in their ability to drive this nation into sometime akin to civil war, thereby providing the pretext for foreign intervention which would provide the bully boys with both the sand and training to credibly take on the American public, including disarmament.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    But it can be reasonably taken as the implication. That said, if you say that is not what you meant, then I accept it as so and stand corrected.



    Antifa = SA? Not even close. Antifa are paper tigers, yakking a big yak, but most likely lacking the sand to walk the talk in the ways your words suggest. The SA were $#@!s, but they were most assuredly not punks. Antifa are punks, not to mention they lack training and self-control. They are toddlers who present marginal material threats as they currently stand. That could change, but at this point I'm not seeing it.

    That, then, raises the question of who exactly will do the dirty work? Police? To a degree I see it, but if things go very sideways they will fold like cheap suits. They are too few and playing like you're military against a mostly compliant population isn't going to cut muster in even the slightest measure once the sheep go into warmode.

    US military? Questionable on its best days. I fully believe USMC will have nothing to do with such orders. Navy... I'd like to think they'd follow the Marines' lead. Army would almost certainly be a mixed bag and the Air Force I do not trust to the door, candy asses they tend to be.

    This leaves really only two other plausible alternates: foreign military or an as-yet secret mercenary force. I find the former the most likely. There are rumors of 100K Chinese troops holed up in Mexico. I have no idea whether it is fact, but it certainly makes sense. And of course we know there are tens of thousands of foreign troops on American soil, ostensibly engaging in joint training missions. The use of foreign military makes sense precisely because we are fairly sorely hated by much of the world, largely thanks to our shyte foreign policy since the late 40s, likely leaving foreign troops with no reticence to kill Americans.

    A private merc army would make sense on the same basis, but makes no economic sense. National troops are part of the standard national overhead. A private force would be difficult to finance and nearly impossible to conceal.

    Therefore, the most plausible threat, IMO, issues from foreign military. The utility of groups like antifa lies in their ability to drive this nation into sometime akin to civil war, thereby providing the pretext for foreign intervention which would provide the bully boys with both the sand and training to credibly take on the American public, including disarmament.
    The hispanic gangs they are importing will be used and so probably will native minority gangs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The hispanic gangs they are importing will be used and so probably will native minority gangs.
    Ah, of course. I did overlook those. They, more than any of the others, would kill Americans with glee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    I didn't say that they were "tough," either ... (I did say that they are not really the "snowflakes" they pretend to be, but that is not the same thing ...)
    But it can be reasonably taken as the implication. That said, if you say that is not what you meant, then I accept it as so and stand corrected.
    It is not what I meant. I don't see how anything I said implies that it was.

    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Obviously, they pose no threat as Sturmabteilung. That task will fall to others more physically and temperamentally suited to it, such as the Antifa types.
    Antifa = SA? Not even close. [...]
    *sigh* I didn't say "Antifa = SA," either ...

    Reread the remark you quoted. I said that the DSA "snowflakes" were not SA material, and that others more suited to the purpose would fulfill that role. As an adjunct to that point, I identified "Antifa types" (which does not denote Antifa itself) as being more suitable than the puling DSAers for the ranks of whatever SA-analog might arise. But I said nothing about Antifa being or becoming that analog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    It is not what I meant. I don't see how anything I said implies that it was.
    Read what I wrote. I said it could be reasonably taken to imply, not that it implied.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

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  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    But it can be reasonably taken as the implication. That said, if you say that is not what you meant, then I accept it as so and stand corrected.



    Antifa = SA? Not even close. Antifa are paper tigers, yakking a big yak, but most likely lacking the sand to walk the talk in the ways your words suggest. The SA were $#@!s, but they were most assuredly not punks. Antifa are punks, not to mention they lack training and self-control. They are toddlers who present marginal material threats as they currently stand. That could change, but at this point I'm not seeing it.

    That, then, raises the question of who exactly will do the dirty work? Police? To a degree I see it, but if things go very sideways they will fold like cheap suits. They are too few and playing like you're military against a mostly compliant population isn't going to cut muster in even the slightest measure once the sheep go into warmode.

    US military? Questionable on its best days. I fully believe USMC will have nothing to do with such orders. Navy... I'd like to think they'd follow the Marines' lead. Army would almost certainly be a mixed bag and the Air Force I do not trust to the door, candy asses they tend to be.

    This leaves really only two other plausible alternates: foreign military or an as-yet secret mercenary force. I find the former the most likely. There are rumors of 100K Chinese troops holed up in Mexico. I have no idea whether it is fact, but it certainly makes sense. And of course we know there are tens of thousands of foreign troops on American soil, ostensibly engaging in joint training missions. The use of foreign military makes sense precisely because we are fairly sorely hated by much of the world, largely thanks to our shyte foreign policy since the late 40s, likely leaving foreign troops with no reticence to kill Americans.

    A private merc army would make sense on the same basis, but makes no economic sense. National troops are part of the standard national overhead. A private force would be difficult to finance and nearly impossible to conceal.

    Therefore, the most plausible threat, IMO, issues from foreign military. The utility of groups like antifa lies in their ability to drive this nation into sometime akin to civil war, thereby providing the pretext for foreign intervention which would provide the bully boys with both the sand and training to credibly take on the American public, including disarmament.
    I think 'Toddlers' (in the antifa gangs) the operative here is a key point that I never see
    written about unless I've written it, these are a select age bracket and type of individual
    answering to / recruited by a regimented training and support group , perhaps Soros.
    They are likely paid and paid well, if you look at the early appearances , they were all mirror
    images of each other , and dressed in new, organizational garb.
    There is nothing Grass Roots about antifa to be sure, and there is no innocence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Read what I wrote. I said it could be reasonably taken to imply, not that it implied.
    to-may-to, to-mah-to

    I didn't say anything that "could be reasonably taken to imply" that the DSAers are "tough," either.

    But as the saying goes: "You find what you look for."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    to-may-to, to-mah-to

    I didn't say anything that "could be reasonably taken to imply" that the DSAers are "tough," either.

    But as the saying goes: "You find what you look for."
    I think we're good here.

    Moving right along...

    Hmmm... I know, time for Lou Reed. I attended this show when I was a wee fresh lad:

    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

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