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    RCD DESTROYS AOC: No One Comes Here To Find Socialism, They Come Here To Escape It

    Aug 2, 2019

    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

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    Oh yes, this is the same story as California. People flee California in massive numbers to escape socialism.

    Unfortunately, it's like a disease, and all they end up doing is transmitting the disease to their new location.
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    I live near Austin, TX. Seems like a lot of Californians come here, bid up the downtown properties, then bemoan the lack of affordable housing for the poor folks in the city. At least they allow camping on the streets downtown now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Oh yes, this is the same story as California. People flee California in massive numbers to escape socialism.

    Unfortunately, it's like a disease, and all they end up doing is transmitting the disease to their new location.
    California has always been a testing ground for the Fed. It's not the people= it's the controlled gov.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    California has always been a testing ground for the Fed. It's not the people= it's the controlled gov.
    It's both.
    The government can't do what it wants unless people support it.

    People take their philosophy with them and they never admit it was their philosophy that cause the problems they flee.

    "That wasn't real communism"
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Its not that hard to destroy AOC.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    RCD is new to me
    Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne,--
    Yet that scaffold sways the future, and, behind the dim unknown,
    Standeth God within the shadow, keeping watch above his own.
    ‫‬‫‬

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    California has always been a testing ground for the Fed. It's not the people= it's the controlled gov.
    Fk the Fed, but you're talking out your ass again, the Fed did not create Ca's environment of lawless
    sanctuary cities and insane environmental policies, those are socialist , globalist ideals like yours
    and PAF's.



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    I was just going to say what Sword just said, it's both, neither of these women
    have a clue what they are talking about, shocking I know, but they come
    for the handouts.
    Surely there are a few coming for capitalism, but most come for triple or quadruple wages
    and welfare, most receive welfare.

    All but a tiny fraction will vote the Open Border, liberal idiot ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Fk the Fed, but you're talking out your ass again, the Fed did not create Ca's environment of lawless
    sanctuary cities and insane environmental policies, those are socialist , globalist ideals like yours
    and PAF's.

    "Globalist ideas".


    I stand for Private Property Rights, Contract Rights, Natural Rights outlined in the BoR's, Individual liberty, self sufficiency, End Welfare, the IRS and the Fed.


    You stand for Government Eminent Domain, taking land from rightful owners well before this government existed, which creates the necessity to police state The Wall, while driving businesses out of business, or report them to the government if they are able to stay in business, for hiring who they want without government permission slips. Thus creating a need for "papers please", government databases and random company "inspections". Global/corporatist lobbyists profit by loss of individual freedom to build The Wall (I started a thread on said Globalist companies), biometrics, and other apparatus including the over-head associated with it, funded by the Fed which takes money from the Jane and Joe Blow the taxpayer. Prices go up because mom and pop companies can no longer find workers, government steps in to raise the minimum wage to attract Section 8 folks who will continue to flip the finger as long as they get the monthly check without going to work. The $1 Billion PER DAY economy at that border gets all mucked up, Trump who already signed it will wait for the democrats to pass the USMCA in an attempt to "balance" things out between Mexico and U.S. to attract "legal" workers who will "Fund the Fed", setting us up nicely for a North American Union.

    Instead of shutting off the welfare spigot and letting the Free Market economy work it out without all of the government interference.


    Tell me again whose ideas are GLOBALIST?


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    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    "Globalist ideas".


    I stand for Private Property Rights, Contract Rights, Natural Rights outlined in the BoR's, Individual liberty, self sufficiency, End Welfare, the IRS and the Fed.


    You stand for Government Eminent Domain, taking land from rightful owners well before this government existed, which creates the necessity to police state The Wall, while driving businesses out of business, or report them to the government if they are able to stay in business, for hiring who they want without government permission slips. Thus creating a need for "papers please", government databases and random company "inspections". Global/corporatist lobbyists profit by loss of individual freedom to build The Wall (I started a thread on said Globalist companies), biometrics, and other apparatus including the over-head associated with it, funded by the Fed which takes money from the Jane and Joe Blow the taxpayer. Prices go up because mom and pop companies can no longer find workers, government steps in to raise the minimum wage to attract Section 8 folks who will continue to flip the finger as long as they get the monthly check without going to work. The $1 Billion PER DAY economy at that border gets all mucked up, Trump who already signed it will wait for the democrats to pass the USMCA in an attempt to "balance" things out between Mexico and U.S. to attract "legal" workers who will "Fund the Fed", setting us up nicely for a North American Union.

    Instead of shutting off the welfare spigot and letting the Free Market economy work it out without all of the government interference.


    Tell me again whose ideas are GLOBALIST?


    \
    Yours.
    You stand for letting an unlimited number of communists invade and absorb us into the global communist empire.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    @Stratovarious

    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Fk the Fed, but you're talking out your ass again, the Fed did not create Ca's environment of lawless
    sanctuary cities and insane environmental policies, those are socialist , globalist ideals like yours
    and PAF's.

    "Globalist ideas".


    I stand for Private Property Rights, Contract Rights, Natural Rights outlined in the BoR's, Individual liberty, self sufficiency, End Welfare, the IRS and the Fed.


    You stand for Government Eminent Domain, taking land from rightful owners well before this government existed, which creates the necessity to police state The Wall, while driving businesses out of business, or report them to the government if they are able to stay in business, for hiring who they want without government permission slips. Thus creating a need for "papers please", government databases and random company "inspections". Global/corporatist lobbyists profit by loss of individual freedom to build The Wall (I started a thread on said Globalist companies), biometrics, and other apparatus including the over-head associated with it, funded by the Fed which takes money from the Jane and Joe Blow the taxpayer. Prices go up because mom and pop companies can no longer find workers, government steps in to raise the minimum wage to attract Section 8 folks who will continue to flip the finger as long as they get the monthly check without going to work. The $1 Billion PER DAY economy at that border gets all mucked up, Trump who already signed it will wait for the democrats to pass the USMCA in an attempt to "balance" things out between Mexico and U.S. to attract "legal" workers who will "Fund the Fed", setting us up nicely for a North American Union.

    Instead of shutting off the welfare spigot and letting the Free Market economy work it out without all of the government interference.


    Tell me again whose ideas are GLOBALIST?
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    @Stratovarious




    "Globalist ideas".


    I stand for Private Property Rights, Contract Rights, Natural Rights outlined in the BoR's, Individual liberty, self sufficiency, End Welfare, the IRS and the Fed.


    You stand for Government Eminent Domain, taking land from rightful owners well before this government existed, which creates the necessity to police state The Wall, while driving businesses out of business, or report them to the government if they are able to stay in business, for hiring who they want without government permission slips. Thus creating a need for "papers please", government databases and random company "inspections". Global/corporatist lobbyists profit by loss of individual freedom to build The Wall (I started a thread on said Globalist companies), biometrics, and other apparatus including the over-head associated with it, funded by the Fed which takes money from the Jane and Joe Blow the taxpayer. Prices go up because mom and pop companies can no longer find workers, government steps in to raise the minimum wage to attract Section 8 folks who will continue to flip the finger as long as they get the monthly check without going to work. The $1 Billion PER DAY economy at that border gets all mucked up, Trump who already signed it will wait for the democrats to pass the USMCA in an attempt to "balance" things out between Mexico and U.S. to attract "legal" workers who will "Fund the Fed", setting us up nicely for a North American Union.

    Instead of shutting off the welfare spigot and letting the Free Market economy work it out without all of the government interference.


    Tell me again whose ideas are GLOBALIST?
    You stand for open borders, you are and enemy to America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axiomata View Post
    RCD is new to me
    Here’s where she started...



    Now she sits in on various shows on the Fox networks.
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  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Aug 2, 2019

    Good video. Glad she didn’t go so far as to call for US involvement in regime change in Venezuela.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Here’s where she started...



    Now she sits in on various shows on the Fox networks.
    Wow! Great find :-)


    Good video. Glad she didn’t go so far as to call for US involvement in regime change in Venezuela.
    Had she, I would not have posted it ;-)
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    You stand for open borders, you are and enemy to America.
    Referring to Post #10:

    If everything that I stand for makes me an enemy, so be it.

    If everything that you stand for makes you a friend to it, I unfortunately can't help you there.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Referring to Post #10:

    If everything that I stand for makes me an enemy, so be it.

    If everything that you stand for makes you a friend to it, I unfortunately can't help you there.
    Your open border stance is childish and moronic, supported by the fact that it works
    nowhere on earth, yet you promote it with your every breath on this forum, this
    forum allows you to post your constant gibberish, shame on us , shame on the RPF for
    ignoring 'our' mission statement and giving you a platform for your Open Border agenda,
    day in and day out.

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Your open border stance is childish and moronic, supported by the fact that it works
    nowhere on earth, yet you promote it with your every breath on this forum, this
    forum allows you to post your constant gibberish, shame on us , shame on the RPF for
    ignoring 'our' mission statement and giving you a platform for your Open Border agenda,
    day in and day out.
    Those who have the most to lose are the loudest.


    That's why his obsession with denying sex trafficking is so creepy.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Those who have the most to lose are the loudest.


    That's why his obsession with denying sex trafficking is so creepy.

    Omg, that is creepy , this supports the Trollbot scenario, he doesn't know wtf he
    stands for , just what the Globalists pay him to 'push' .

    Side note;
    The media over works this 'trafficking' cliché to death, to the point it
    loses its impact.
    I get the human trafficking label , that definition should be held closely to what amounts
    to kidnapping and slavery .

    When you have a broker for sex , a madam etc, that's just prostitution and shouldn't be
    a dirty word.

    Liberals don't want women to be free, they prefer shackles, and only pretend to care about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Omg, that is creepy , this supports the Trollbot scenario, he doesn't know wtf he
    stands for , just what the Globalists pay him to 'push' .

    Side note;
    The media over works this 'trafficking' cliché to death, to the point it
    loses its impact.
    I get the human trafficking , that definition should be held closely to what amounts
    to kidnapping and slavery .

    When you have a broker for sex , a madam etc, that's just prostitution and shouldn't be
    a dirty word.

    Liberals don't want women to be free, they prefer shackles, and only pretend to care about them.
    I am split on the prostitution question and think it should be determined locally.
    Pure libertarianism would say that government should not be involved but Classic conservatism would say that GOD curses communities that countenance such sins.

    I ignored PAF's position on prostitution because it is libertarian and an arguable position that I am not deeply opposed to but then he started invading threads about human trafficking of sex slaves to claim it didn't exist.............................
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I am split on the prostitution question and think it should be determined locally.
    Pure libertarianism would say that government should not be involved but Classic conservatism would say that GOD curses communities that countenance such sins.

    I ignored PAF's position on prostitution because it is libertarian and an arguable position that I am not deeply opposed to but then he started invading threads about human trafficking of sex slaves to claim it didn't exist.............................
    Surely it exists but prostitution is not human trafficking and prostitution is not sex slavery.
    Sex Slavery would be what you just said ; sex slaves, yea , that would be human trafficking but
    prostitution is not, IMV, different topics entirely.

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Surely it exists but prostitution is not human trafficking and prostitution is not sex slavery.
    Sex Slavery would be what you just said ; sex slaves, yea , that would be human trafficking but
    prostitution is not, IMV, different topics entirely.
    Definitely different.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I am split on the prostitution question and think it should be determined locally.
    Pure libertarianism would say that government should not be involved but Classic conservatism would say that GOD curses communities that countenance such sins.

    ......
    God sounds like big government guy. Maybe he should mind his own business instead of using government violence to get between voluntary transactions.

    And no. Local governments should not be able to restrict prostition anymore than they should be able to restrict guns, gambing, or drug use. It is interesting to me the hysteria over even the tiniest commonsense regulation on guns but not nearly the reaction on the zillion other infringements. Pretty incoherent to not defend prostitution with the same energy as gun ownership.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    God sounds like big government guy. Maybe he should mind his own business instead of using government violence to get between voluntary transactions.

    And no. Local governments should not be able to restrict prostition anymore than they should be able to restrict guns, gambing, or drug use. It is interesting to me the hysteria over even the tiniest commonsense regulation on guns but not nearly the reaction on the zillion other infringements. Pretty incoherent to not defend prostitution with the same energy as gun ownership.
    GOD is the creator and he has given us moral rules for our own good.

    The right to own weapons for self-defense and the defense of your other rights is not a sin and is completely different from prostitution.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    GOD is the creator and he has given us moral rules for our own good.

    The right to own weapons for self-defense and the defense of your other rights is not a sin and is completely different from prostitution.
    I am not really a big fiction reader so I don't know what he says is a sin and what isn't.

    Luckily we aren't a theocracy and have no reason to consult mystical writings for government policy.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Oh yes, this is the same story as California. People flee California in massive numbers to escape socialism.

    Unfortunately, it's like a disease, and all they end up doing is transmitting the disease to their new location.
    Glad to see the very first comment pointed that out.

    Massholes, Ill-Annoyists, Calfornicators...the list is endless.

    Flee high tax $#@!hole states, move to low tax freedom and prosperity states, and then immediately start voting for the same big government they just fled.

    Just like the foreign invaders.

  32. #28
    ''Thread: RCD DESTROYS AOC: No One Comes Here To Find Socialism, They Come Here To Escape It For intentionally misrepresenting what I said. I though you and I would be able to see eye to eye at least on some things, but you have proved to be a disgusting, vile liar.'' PAF
    Our mission statement and tos, mean nothing here, above is a pm and NEG rep from PAF.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's both.
    The government can't do what it wants unless people support it.

    People take their philosophy with them and they never admit it was their philosophy that cause the problems they flee.

    "That wasn't real communism"
    Government cannot do what it wants without people supporting it? Government these days does whatever they want and cares not what people want.

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    Coming to a city near you........





    Why are you still near a city?

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