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Thread: Support for allowing Central American refugees into US up 6 points since December

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    Exclamation Support for allowing Central American refugees into US up 6 points since December

    More Americans now support allowing refugees from Central America into the U.S. compared to eight months ago, according to a new poll, largely due to increased approval among Republicans and independents.

    Support overall stands at 57 percent, up 6 points from 51 percent in December, according to the Gallup poll released Tuesday.

    The largest uptick in support was among Republicans, although members of the GOP still support taking in Central American refugees at lower rates than Democrats and independents.

    Republican support increased by 10 points, to 24 percent, in the new poll.

    Support from independents stands at 58 percent, up 6 points.

    Eighty five percent of Democrats now support taking in Central Americans refugees, compared to 82 percent last December.

    Support for taking in the refugees is now higher than it's been historically for refugees across the world, including Syrian refugees in 2015 and Holocaust refugees in the 1930s and 40s, Gallup noted.
    https://thehill.com/latino/457192-su...since-december

    Boobus wants to be flooded with immigrants. Who would have thought it.



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    From The Hill...seems legit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    From The Hill...seems legit.
    The poll is from Gallup:

    Gallup surveyed 3,038 adults between July 15 and 31. Its results have a margin of error of 2 percentage points.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    The poll is from Gallup:


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    Seems legit.
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    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Good.
    I take it you want to bring on the collapse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    I take it you want to bring on the collapse?
    No. I want to do what's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    I take it you want to bring on the collapse?
    Muh collapse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    No. I want to do what's right.
    There's no way to cope with this many immigrants. It's a disaster

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    You can not stop human beings from wanting a better life anymore than you can stop people from wanting sex with Sex Workers.

    Rather than tighten the noose around our own necks with more laws, statutes and ordinances, perhaps appreciate those who do want to work and continue planting the seeds of liberty, like Gloria Álvarez is doing:


    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Immigration needs to be controlled.. there is no way the public purse can sustain these levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    There's no way to cope with this many immigrants. It's a disaster
    I disagree. The proven best way to deal with the problem of scarcity everywhere it exists is through the free market, and never central planning. Let the free market work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    I disagree. The proven best way to deal with the problem of scarcity everywhere it exists is through the free market, and never central planning. Let the free market work.
    In an ideal world but a lot of these immigrants are expecting to be taken care of by the welfare state. You cant have welfare and open borders as Friedman once said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Immigration needs to be controlled.. there is no way the public purse can sustain these levels.
    You do not have much of a choice. There are too many white American politicians and corporate lobbyists who are profiting immensely by this. The only solution to maintain liberty is what Ron Paul has learned and continues to preach - we must reach the hearts and minds of the people. And by that he does NOT mean restrictionism, laws, statutes and ordinances.

    Related:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...e-Shill…
    Last edited by PAF; 08-13-2019 at 07:16 AM.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    You cant have welfare and open borders
    If this is true, then it's an additional reason to support having open borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    You do not have much of a choice. There are too many white American politicians and corporate lobbyists who are profiting immensely by this. The only solution to maintain liberty is what Ron Paul has learned and continues to preach - we must reach the hearts and minds of the people. And by that he 8does NOT mean restrictionism, laws, statutes and ordinances.

    Related:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...e-Shill…
    There is a choice... seal the f***king border.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    If this is true, then it's an additional reason to support having open borders.
    Exactly. But most seem to think continuing welfare will eventually solve the problem. Thus they repeat “seal the border”. Which is exactly what the lobbyists/contractors want.
    Last edited by PAF; 08-13-2019 at 07:28 AM.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    What were their polls on the 2016 presidential election?

    Gulag Chief:
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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    What were their polls on the 2016 presidential election?
    Most polls on that election were accurate to within the margin of error.

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    I will go as far as say this gallup poll is meaningless . 3K people polled by phone in different states , 30 percent land line and 70 percent cell selected randomly . My guess is all of these are from areas of large populations or major cities and I could flip the results by doing the same with rural areas .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Most polls on that election were accurate to within the margin of error.
    Ah, with the margin of error being quite substantial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    Ah, with the margin of error being quite substantial.
    Sometimes. I guess whether any given number is considered substantial is subjective. But I more often see the problem of people misunderstanding polls and what conclusions to draw from them than the polls themselves being bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Sometimes. I guess whether any given number is considered substantial is subjective. But I more often see the problem of people misunderstanding polls and what conclusions to draw from them than the polls themselves being bad.
    From my perspective, polls are typically used to influence perspective rather than garner perspective. I think that's why the missed the mark so bad with Trump.

    They would omit Ron Paul altogether btw - he'd be in the top few candidates, sometimes 2nd, and they would just omit his results.

    After witnessing that, I've always been leery of polls that are supposed to gauge public opinion - cause more often than not they are used to manipulate the masses. in other words, I dont think more Americans are supporting the wave of refugees passing through Mexico - I think most Americans are wondering why these refugees dont settle in Mexico. Maybe America really is racist against Mexico?

    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
    Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"





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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    From my perspective, polls are typically used to influence perspective rather than garner perspective. I think that's why the missed the mark so bad with Trump.

    They would omit Ron Paul altogether btw - he'd be in the top few candidates, sometimes 2nd, and they would just omit his results.

    After witnessing that, I've always been leery of polls that are supposed to gauge public opinion - cause more often than not they are used to manipulate the masses. in other words, I dont think more Americans are supporting the wave of refugees passing through Mexico - I think most Americans are wondering why these refugees dont settle in Mexico. Maybe America really is racist against Mexico?

    They need somebody to "blame".

    It is a diversionary tactic to grow the state (FED). All eyes are OFF of Welfare, certainly those in Section 8.

    Instead, the push is for more draconian anti-liberty measures where corporatists/lobbyists profit immensely by building Walls, surveillance apparatus, biometric databases.

    Follow The Money.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    From my perspective, polls are typically used to influence perspective rather than garner perspective. I think that's why the missed the mark so bad with Trump.

    They would omit Ron Paul altogether btw - he'd be in the top few candidates, sometimes 2nd, and they would just omit his results.

    After witnessing that, I've always been leery of polls that are supposed to gauge public opinion - cause more often than not they are used to manipulate the masses. in other words, I dont think more Americans are supporting the wave of refugees passing through Mexico - I think most Americans are wondering why these refugees dont settle in Mexico. Maybe America really is racist against Mexico?
    Exactly. I well remember the He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named days.

    The funny thing is that if Zippy posts a poll, he's a paid troll- anyone else is fine.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    They need somebody to "blame".

    It is a diversionary tactic to grow the state (FED). All eyes are OFF of Welfare, certainly those in Section 8.

    Instead, the push is for more draconian anti-liberty measures where corporatists/lobbyists profit immensely by building Walls, surveillance apparatus, biometric databases.

    Follow The Money.

    Agreed, and it seems to be very effective. Everyone here should know it when they see it... both parties will find every justification they can to acquire a length of rope, and then use it to hang the very people that provided said rope.

    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
    Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"



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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    Agreed, and it seems to be very effective. Everyone here should know it when they see it... both parties will find every justification they can to acquire a length of rope, and then use it to hang the very people that provided said rope.
    ^^^THIS!^^^
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Boobus wants to be flooded with immigrants. Who would have thought it.
    Oh, I don't doubt it at all.

    There are so many factors here: self loathing whites so poisoned against themselves and their history they are literally willing to kill themselves before being even hinted at being "racist", short sighted cheap labor advocates, of course the "No Borders No Walls No USA At All" mob of loudmouthed Bolsheviks and Jacobins, and then a tiny contingent of various open border libertarians and the collapasatarians of all stripes.

    That's most of AmeriKa: so world weary, cosmopolitan and filled with self hate that they will cheerfully welcome their own destruction.

    Thus all empires end.

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    MAGA's recent statement condemning 'racism, bigotry' and 'hate has no place in America' declaration after El Paso shooting a factor in such a shift in attitudes?






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