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    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: 'I Have a Lot of Common Ground With Many Libertarian Viewpoints'

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: 'I Have a Lot of Common Ground With Many Libertarian Viewpoints'
    The democratic socialist congresswoman also criticized Republican hypocrisy.
    By Billy Binion - 8.8.2019

    ...in an Instagram live stream last week, the democratic socialist congresswoman told viewers that she does find some commonality with libertarians.

    "I actually think I have a lot of common ground with many libertarian viewpoints in [the Republican] party," Ocasio-Cortez said, emphasizing her stances on immigration, the military, and privacy rights. Her admission comes not long after she and Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas) publicly agreed on the need to prohibit former congresspeople from becoming lobbyists, as well as to make hormonal birth control available over the counter.

    "True libertarians, which many happen to be in the Republican Party, true libertarian viewpoints are pro-immigration," she explained on Instagram. Advocates of smaller government do indeed acknowledge that immigrants help the economy, and many dismiss the notion that the federal government is capable of determining optimal migration levels.

    Ocasio-Cortez also told Instagram viewers that her "anti-interventionist" and "anti-war" positioning fits in line with a libertarian mindset. "From the perspective of small government, there are Republicans who are very consistently anti-war and anti-military spending," she said.
    ...
    More: https://reason.com/2019/08/08/alexan...an-viewpoints/
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    "anti-interventionist" and "anti-war" positioning fits in line with a libertarian mindset
    I must have missed this from AOC. I didn’t recall her being outspoken against interventionism. Did she vote against the bloated budget that included massive military spending?
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I must have missed this from AOC. I didn’t recall her being outspoken against interventionism. Did she vote against the bloated budget that included massive military spending?
    She's rocking the boat.

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1160184184947781632


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    The LP will welcome her with open arms, they both want to flood the country with communists, they both hate law enforcement for the sake of it, they both want abortion to be free and easy and they both want legalized weed.

    The only sticking point is that the LP may be going interventionist.

    All other issues don't really matter anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The LP will welcome her with open arms, they both want to flood the country with communists, they both hate law enforcement for the sake of it, they both want abortion to be free and easy and they both want legalized weed.

    The only sticking point is that the LP may be going interventionist.

    All other issues don't really matter anyway.
    You get all that from the party platform?
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    She needs to kindly $#@! off. Shes not a libertarian by any stretch of the imagination.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    You get all that from the party platform?
    SS would take any opportunity he gets to insult the LP. No way he would pass up on this story, its way too easy for him.
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.



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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    SS would take any opportunity he gets to insult the LP. No way he would pass up on this story, its way too easy for him.
    LP deserves to be mocked.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olYx5LILl34

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    SS would take any opportunity he gets to insult the LP. No way he would pass up on this story, its way too easy for him.
    Sure, now that they have sold out completely.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The LP will welcome her with open arms, they both want to flood the country with communists, they both hate law enforcement for the sake of it, they both want abortion to be free and easy and they both want legalized weed.

    The only sticking point is that the LP may be going interventionist.

    All other issues don't really matter anyway.
    LOL
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    There are indeed many problems with current law enforcement practices but the LP is full of anarchists and contrarians who hate the very idea of police or sheriffs etc. because their religion is rebellion.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Give it time and she will have her own category in the Liberty Candidates section of this forum just like Justin Cuck Amash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Sure, now that they have sold out completely.
    Maybe so, one thing I know is that I can't seem to remember a time when you weren't bitching about the LP.
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    "True libertarians, which many happen to be in the Republican Party, true libertarian viewpoints are pro-immigration," she explained on Instagram. Advocates of smaller government do indeed acknowledge that immigrants help the economy, and many dismiss the notion that the federal government is capable of determining optimal migration levels.
    Libertarians who support free movement of people also support ending the welfare state and birthright citizenship. I wonder if she would still be OK with that package?
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Maybe so, one thing I know is that I can't seem to remember a time when you weren't bitching about the LP.
    They have had serious problems since before I came to this site.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    She's a bolshevik and...

    ...will therefore likely do well with the American electorate.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Libertarians who support free movement of people also support ending the welfare state and birthright citizenship. I wonder if she would still be OK with that package?
    Qft

    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
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    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Everyone has 'a Lot of Common Ground With Many Libertarian Viewpoints'
    ...
    ....
    .....
    ...... except Swordsmyth
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    Everyone has 'a Lot of Common Ground With Many Libertarian Viewpoints'
    ...
    ....
    .....
    ...... except Swordsmyth
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I must have missed this from AOC. I didn’t recall her being outspoken against interventionism. Did she vote against the bloated budget that included massive military spending?
    And it appears that AOC voted for the bloated MIC approved budget. So libertarian.

    The vote split the four Democrats now known as the “Squad,” with Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) voting against the bill, and Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) voting “yes.”

    Ocasio-Cortez, visibly conflicted on the House floor, was one of the last House members to cast her vote after huddling with Pressley and Tlaib.
    ...
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...t-vote-1433848
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    This is like when Jeb Bush said he had libertarian blood. She is probably less libertarian than Jeb though. Sometimes progressive democrats can work together with libertarians on things like individual liberties and privacy though, Ron Paul and Rand Paul have done that. Rand has worked with Cory Booker on criminal Justice reform and that guy is just as crazy and neoliberal as AOC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    There are indeed many problems with current law enforcement practices but the LP is full of anarchists and contrarians who hate the very idea of police or sheriffs etc. because their religion is rebellion.


    The Founding Fathers: Smugglers, Tax Evaders, and Traitors
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    Now a days the future freedoms of ones posterity is less important than the freedom today to insert what one wants into ones posterior.
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    That is a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    LOL

    Cortez for President on the LP ticket 2028

    Makes as much sense as Bob Barr or Bill Weld.
    Sarwark, the Chair of the Libertarian Party, retweeted this story. Your suggestion is probably being considered.


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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post


    The Founding Fathers: Smugglers, Tax Evaders, and Traitors
    https://mises.org/library/founding-f...s-and-traitors
    But they weren't against all law enforcement in principle.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Sarwark, the Chair of the Libertarian Party, retweeted this story. Your suggestion is probably being considered.


    https://www.twitter.com/reason/statu...57926060564480
    Called it:

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The LP will welcome her with open arms, they both want to flood the country with communists, they both hate law enforcement for the sake of it, they both want abortion to be free and easy and they both want legalized weed.

    The only sticking point is that the LP may be going interventionist.

    All other issues don't really matter anyway.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    But they weren't against all law enforcement in principle.
    What law enforcement were they in favor of, before they won?
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Now a days the future freedoms of ones posterity is less important than the freedom today to insert what one wants into ones posterior.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is a lie.
    @Brian4Liberty, devil keeps spreading this lie.
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    I will report violations of the forum rules to the forum staff when they are egregious enough.

    You should remember that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    What law enforcement were they in favor of, before they won?
    I imagine they were in favor of local law enforcement that arrested murderers etc.
    And what they were in favor of after they won is what matters.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I imagine they were in favor of local law enforcement that arrested murderers etc.
    And what they were in favor of after they won is what matters.
    "You imagine" a lot of stuff. Far too much.

    And once they had the ring they weren't any better than the redcoats.
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Now a days the future freedoms of ones posterity is less important than the freedom today to insert what one wants into ones posterior.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is a lie.
    @Brian4Liberty, devil keeps spreading this lie.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I will report violations of the forum rules to the forum staff when they are egregious enough.

    You should remember that.

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