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Thread: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: 'I Have a Lot of Common Ground With Many Libertarian Viewpoints'

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    "You imagine" a lot of stuff. Far too much.
    Show me an example of them tarring and feathering a local sheriff and we can talk.
    With few exceptions they all were members of and/or supported their colonial governments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    And once they had the ring they weren't any better than the redcoats.
    That's debatable and I wouldn't take your side, they were definitely not perfect and I am quite familiar with the classic examples but the present state of the UK vs. America is telling.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Show me an example of them tarring and feathering a local sheriff and we can talk.
    With few exceptions they all were members of and/or supported their colonial governments.


    .
    They killed them, what are you talking about? There was a war. Yes, I'm aware many were prominent subjects of the crown.
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Now a days the future freedoms of ones posterity is less important than the freedom today to insert what one wants into ones posterior.
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    That is a lie.
    @Brian4Liberty, devil keeps spreading this lie.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    They killed them, what are you talking about? There was a war. Yes, I'm aware many were prominent subjects of the crown.
    What are YOU talking about? I'm talking about local law enforcement NOT the Redcoats, the colonial governments were part and parcel of the revolution and unless some of their local sheriffs or whatever they called them were Tories they didn't go around killing them.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I must have missed this from AOC. I didn’t recall her being outspoken against interventionism. Did she vote against the bloated budget that included massive military spending?
    She did make this controversial call. However GOP-Adelson/MAGA wing's top leadership did not ask her to resign for 'anti-semitism' as it did after Ilhan accused AIPAC lobby of bribing US politicians/spoke against Iran war drums.

    AOC Says Cut US Aid to Israel

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What are YOU talking about? I'm talking about local law enforcement NOT the Redcoats, the colonial governments were part and parcel of the revolution and unless some of their local sheriffs or whatever they called them were Tories they didn't go around killing them.
    So, local law enforcement prior to the declaration were not under the edict of the king? Sides were chosen, the revolutionaries went to war with the factions that supported the king. And yes, they killed each other.
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Now a days the future freedoms of ones posterity is less important than the freedom today to insert what one wants into ones posterior.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is a lie.
    @Brian4Liberty, devil keeps spreading this lie.
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    You should remember that.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    So, local law enforcement prior to the declaration were not under the edict of the king?
    So were the colonial governments that many of the founding fathers were members of, they even petitioned the king to overrule Parliament before they rebelled.

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Sides were chosen, the revolutionaries went to war with the factions that supported the king. And yes, they killed each other.
    But most local law enforcement probably sided with their colonial governments and supported the rebellion, there was no war on law enforcement, only on Tories and Redcoats, some law enforcement may have been Tories but if they were killed it was for being Tories not for being law enforcement.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    But most local law enforcement probably sided with their colonial governments and supported the rebellion, there was no war on law enforcement, only on Tories and Redcoats, some law enforcement may have been Tories but if they were killed it was for being Tories not for being law enforcement.
    "probably"

    (snort)

    No, at that point law enforcement was the redcoats and those that sided with them. Why would you think that people who made their living enforcing laws would side with rebellion?
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Now a days the future freedoms of ones posterity is less important than the freedom today to insert what one wants into ones posterior.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is a lie.
    @Brian4Liberty, devil keeps spreading this lie.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I will report violations of the forum rules to the forum staff when they are egregious enough.

    You should remember that.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    "probably"

    (snort)
    Show me ANY evidence of a war on law enforcement and we can talk.
    YOU are just making things up to suit your anarchist fantasies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    No, at that point law enforcement was the redcoats and those that sided with them.
    No, the British were the Redcoats and those that sided with them were Tories.

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Why would you think that people who made their living enforcing laws would side with rebellion?
    Because colonists in all walks of life sided with their local colonial governments against the British and because they had no less reason to than the officers and men of the colonial militias or the members of the colonial governments.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Show me ANY evidence of a war on law enforcement and we can talk.
    YOU are just making things up to suit your anarchist fantasies..

    No, I'm not. You're just being your usual dip$#@! self. The redcoats were the the law enforcers of colonial America. The fact that you refuse to accept that doesn't make it not a fact.
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Now a days the future freedoms of ones posterity is less important than the freedom today to insert what one wants into ones posterior.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is a lie.
    @Brian4Liberty, devil keeps spreading this lie.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I will report violations of the forum rules to the forum staff when they are egregious enough.

    You should remember that.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    No, I'm not. You're just being your usual dip$#@! self. The redcoats were the the law enforcers of colonial America. The fact that you refuse to accept that doesn't make it not a fact.
    They were MILITARY, there were other local law enforcement, nightwatchmen, bailiffs, constables, sheriffs, and whatever else they called them back then in the different colonies.
    The colonies also had their own militias which could be used for law enforcement just like the Redcoats but the founders didn't declare war on them either, they were part of the Revolutionary forces.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    No, I'm not. You're just being your usual dip$#@! self.

    I like it. Every time someone is losing an argument with Swordsmyth, they revert to name calling.
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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    There are indeed many problems with current law enforcement practices but the LP is full of anarchists and contrarians who hate the very idea of police or sheriffs etc. because their religion is rebellion.
    Not wanting some double-digiter lording over you and yours with complete immunity falls far short of "because their religion is rebellion."

    Try again.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I like it. Every time someone is losing an argument with Swordsmyth, they revert to name calling.
    Oh, isn't that cute. Another rpf bromance.
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Now a days the future freedoms of ones posterity is less important than the freedom today to insert what one wants into ones posterior.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is a lie.
    @Brian4Liberty, devil keeps spreading this lie.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I will report violations of the forum rules to the forum staff when they are egregious enough.

    You should remember that.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Oh, isn't that cute. Another rpf bromance.
    And of course, insults.
    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!

    Short Income Tax Video

    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    And of course, insults.


    You two make a good pair.
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Now a days the future freedoms of ones posterity is less important than the freedom today to insert what one wants into ones posterior.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is a lie.
    @Brian4Liberty, devil keeps spreading this lie.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I will report violations of the forum rules to the forum staff when they are egregious enough.

    You should remember that.

  19. #46
    This simply underscores that our votes ARE important and numerous enough to tip elections, as was demonstrated in the 2012 general election polling that showed "undecided" voters as overwhelmingly supporting Ron Paul. Which is why both this admitted socialist is attempting to court them, and why a shyll army has been sent to flood this place with wall to wall trump propaganda. Two sides of the same coin, big government authoritarian statists trying to convince us to vote for politicians that continue to do nothing but destroy more of our freedom.
    I have an autographed copy of Revolution: A Manifesto for sale. Mint condition, inquire within. (I don't sign in often, so please allow plenty of time for a response)

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    You get all that from the party platform?
    That comes from the plant that is now running the party .
    Do something Danke

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Libertarians who support free movement of people also support ending the welfare state and birthright citizenship. I wonder if she would still be OK with that package?
    Ya , I do not think you will ever get a single , nationally elected Dem to sign on with ending welfare .
    Do something Danke



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Libertarians who support free movement of people also support ending the welfare state and birthright citizenship.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    She's a bolshevik and...

    ...will therefore likely do well with the American electorate.
    Certainly has not seemed to hurt her in ny.
    Do something Danke

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