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    Thumbs up Trump wants South Korea & Japan to pay more to keep U.S. troops there

    In a move likely to have implications for Japan, U.S. President Donald Trump claimed Wednesday that discussions have begun with South Korea to get the Asian ally to pay more for the cost of maintaining U.S. troops there.
    “South Korea has agreed to pay substantially more money to the United States in order to defend itself from North Korea,” Trump wrote in a Twitter post, saying that Seoul had paid the U.S. “very little” over the “past many decades.”
    “Talks have begun to further increase payments to the United States,” he wrote. “South Korea is a very wealthy nation that now feels an obligation to contribute to the military defense provided by the United States of America.”
    Trump said later that he expects more money from South Korea.
    “They’ve agreed to pay a lot more, and they will agree to pay a lot more than that,” he said.


    The mercurial U.S. leader has repeatedly criticized Seoul and Tokyo, the top American security allies in Asia, for not sharing enough of the financial burden of basing U.S. forces in the two countries. The U.S. has some 28,500 troops in South Korea and approximately 50,000 in Japan.
    South Korean and U.S. officials inked a one-year interim agreement in February, under which Seoul boosted its contribution from $830 million to $924 million. That deal was due to expire in a year.

    The Trump administration is seeking up to a fivefold increase in what Japan pays to support U.S. military forces based here, the Asahi Shimbun daily reported on July 31, citing an unnamed U.S. government source.


    Trump’s apparent antipathy toward the U.S.-Japan alliance made headlines in late June, ahead of the Group of 20 summit in Osaka, when he bashed the allies’ security treaty, noting that under the military pact, which he has lambasted as unfair, Japan wouldn’t have to help the U.S. if it were attacked, though Washington would be required to come to Tokyo’s aid.
    “If Japan is attacked, we will fight World War III,” he said. “We will go in and protect them with our lives and with our treasure. But if we’re attacked, Japan doesn’t have to help us. They can watch it on a Sony television.”

    More at: https://warisboring.com/trump-wants-...-troops-there/

    If they pay more we get some budget relief, if they refuse we pack up and come home. WIN/WIN
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    I much prefer a complete withdrawal from both regions.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I much prefer a complete withdrawal from both regions.
    I'm hoping Trump will demand so much that they will tell us to leave.
    Hopefully that is the plan.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    But look at this SS:


    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...killed-in-Iraq

    if you leave the logic is, you create a vacuum. so we should never leave anywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    But look at this SS:


    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...killed-in-Iraq

    if you leave the logic is, you create a vacuum. so we should never leave anywhere
    Let the whole world kill eachother, then we will have open country to colonize again.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    He got them (South Korea) to agree to pay about $70 million more a year.

    http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20190812000502

    Trump ridicules S. Korea on defense cost-sharing

    US President Donald Trump ridiculed South Korea at his reelection campaign fundraiser Friday, saying it was very easy to force Seoul to hike its share of costs for stationing American troops here.

    According to the New York Post, Trump referred to how as a boy he used to accompany his father to collect rent, saying: “It was easier to get a billion dollars from South Korea than to get $114.13 from a rent-controlled apartment in Brooklyn, and believe me, those 13 cents were very important.”

    During the 10th round of negotiations on the shared defense costs early this year, Washington suggested that Seoul pay $1 billion, and the two sides finally signed a deal that called for an 8.2 percent increase in South Korea’s share to 1.04 trillion won ($915 million).

    Mentioning that South Korea makes great TVs and has a thriving economy, Trump told his supporters at the fundraisers in New York: “So why are we paying for their defense. They’ve got to pay.”

    Trump made fun of US allies South Korea, Japan and the European Union -- mimicking Korean and Japanese accents -- and talked about his love of dictators, Kim Jong-un and the current ruler of Saudi Arabia, according to the New York Post.

    He mimicked President Moon Jae-in’s accent while describing how he caved in to Trump’s tough negotiations, the daily newspaper said, adding that the US president also put on a fake Japanese accent to recount his conversations with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe over trade tariffs.

    On his friendship with Kim, Trump said: “I just got a beautiful letter from him this week. We are friends. People say he only smiles when he sees me.”

    “If I hadn’t been elected president, we would be in a big fat juicy war with North Korea,” Trump was quoted as saying by the New York Post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    He got them (South Korea) to agree to pay about $70 million more a year.

    http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20190812000502
    That was last time, the one year deal is coming to an end and he wants more or we are going to leave.

    Either outcome is good for us.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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