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    Why does Dicks Sporting Goods Not Consider This An Assault Rifle?

    So...after the Parkland shooting, Dick's Sporting Goods announced it would no longer carry assault style weapons. (I.e. AR-15). But it still carries this semi-automatic 22 LR "Ruger Precision Rimfire."



    I'm not a "gun enthusiast" so I don't know the difference. I know they advertise that it's for "hunting small game", but I see no reason why it couldn't kill a person. And I have learned enough to know that AR15's can take 22 LR. Isn't the 22 LR the most common bullet used by the military? What am I missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So...after the Parkland shooting, Dick's Sporting Goods announced it would no longer carry assault style weapons. (I.e. AR-15). But it still carries this semi-automatic 22 LR "Ruger Precision Rimfire."



    I'm not a "gun enthusiast" so I don't know the difference. I know they advertise that it's for "hunting small game", but I see no reason why it couldn't kill a person. And I have learned enough to know that AR15's can take 22 LR. Isn't the 22 LR the most common bullet used by the military? What am I missing?
    No the military doesn't use the 22LR, they use .223 in the M16. They are similar in diameter but not much else.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So...after the Parkland shooting, Dick's Sporting Goods announced it would no longer carry assault style weapons. (I.e. AR-15). But it still carries this semi-automatic 22 LR "Ruger Precision Rimfire."



    I'm not a "gun enthusiast" so I don't know the difference. I know they advertise that it's for "hunting small game", but I see no reason why it couldn't kill a person. And I have learned enough to know that AR15's can take 22 LR. Isn't the 22 LR the most common bullet used by the military? What am I missing?
    .22 LR is one of the most common (maybe most common) used rifle round.
    (But as Cleaner said, not by the military.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So...after the Parkland shooting, Dick's Sporting Goods announced it would no longer carry assault style weapons. (I.e. AR-15). But it still carries this semi-automatic 22 LR "Ruger Precision Rimfire."



    I'm not a "gun enthusiast" so I don't know the difference. I know they advertise that it's for "hunting small game", but I see no reason why it couldn't kill a person. And I have learned enough to know that AR15's can take 22 LR. Isn't the 22 LR the most common bullet used by the military? What am I missing?
    The rifle in the picture sure looks like a bolt action rifle and not a semiautomatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So...after the Parkland shooting, Dick's Sporting Goods announced it would no longer carry assault style weapons. (I.e. AR-15). But it still carries this semi-automatic 22 LR "Ruger Precision Rimfire."



    I'm not a "gun enthusiast" so I don't know the difference. I know they advertise that it's for "hunting small game", but I see no reason why it couldn't kill a person. And I have learned enough to know that AR15's can take 22 LR. Isn't the 22 LR the most common bullet used by the military? What am I missing?
    Oh vey. Where to start?

    There are rifles that look like an AR-15 that can take a .22 LR, but they would not be able to take the standard, far more powerful .223. There may be a slight difference in mechanics, as the .22 LR is a rimfire cartridge while most rifle bullets are centerfire.

    Not sure what that Ruger rifle is that you posted a picture of, but it appears to be a bolt action rifle, which means that it is not a semi-automatic.

    [Edit] Is that a rifle meant for biathlon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    The rifle in the picture sure looks like a bolt action rifle and not a semiautomatic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Nit pick point of order.

    The standard military round is the 5.56 mm NATO.

    It is almost exactly the same as a .223 Remington, but there are some subtle, but crucial differences, mostly in case pressure and how it is distributed.

    tl;dr - you can safely fire a .223 Remington in any weapon built for the 5.56 NATO round, but not the other way around.
    True. That is why I like the RUGER® AR-556®, which I found on sale at Sportsman's Warehouse.
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    That's a shame that they went this route. I know a few people who before going shopping at a sporting goods store would check out Dicks online. Not me, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    True. That is why I like the RUGER® AR-556®, which I found on sale at Sportsman's Warehouse.
    That is a nice rifle, no doubt, congrats.

    I just never have been a fan of the Stoner action, or a battle rifle in .22 caliber.

    This is my "go to" rifle, I own a few of these now, in different configurations:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    The rifle in the picture sure looks like a bolt action rifle and not a semiautomatic.
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    Oh vey. Where to start?

    There are rifles that look like an AR-15 that can take a .22 LR, but they would not be able to take the standard, far more powerful .223. There may be a slight difference in mechanics, as the .22 LR is a rimfire cartridge while most rifle bullets are centerfire.

    Not sure what that Ruger rifle is that you posted a picture of, but it appears to be a bolt action rifle, which means that it is not a semi-automatic.

    [Edit] Is that a rifle meant for biathlon?
    You are both correct. And I stand corrected. It is bolt action. (I am glad I put in that "I'm not a gun enthusiast" disclaimer.") Dick's does have this semi automatic "less scary looking" rifle on its website.



    But I can't order any firearm online from Dick's and apparently no guns are available in any stores near me including muzzle loaders. (And I live in Nashville so that makes me wonder if they still sell any kind of gun anywhere). Which...kinda makes the 2nd amendment advocates point for them. Ban one gun and eventually you ban them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    But I can't order any firearm online from Dick's and apparently no guns are available in any stores near me including muzzle loaders. (And I live in Nashville so that makes me wonder if they still sell any kind of gun anywhere). Which...kinda makes the 2nd amendment advocates point for them. Ban one gun and eventually you ban them all.
    Can't you go to a real gun store?
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    Can't you go to a real gun store?
    Isn't that where criminals get most of their weapons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Can't you go to a real gun store?
    Of course. That's not the point. I was looking into Dick Sporting Goods gun policies. I was wondering if they were making false claims.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Can't you go to a real gun store?
    That would be wise, but as I said, some people just like checking out Dicks. That's just sad.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    That would be wise, but as I said, some people just like checking out Dicks. That's just sad.
    I got my Henry .22 at Dicks a few years back before they went stupid. I would have gone to a "real gun store" but there aren't many of those around here and the closest one that had it in stock was a 40 minute drive and more expensive. I wont shop at Dick's any longer though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    That is a nice rifle, no doubt, congrats.

    I just never have been a fan of the Stoner action, or a battle rifle in .22 caliber.

    This is my "go to" rifle, I own a few of these now, in different configurations:

    .308?

    7.62×51mm NATO?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    .308?

    7.62×51mm NATO?
    Both.

    Unlike the .223 and 5.56, .308 and 7.62x51 are the same round and can be fired interchangeably.

    FALs shoot a .308.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    Both.

    Unlike the .223 and 5.56, .308 and 7.62x51 are the same round and can be fired interchangeably.

    FALs shoot a .308.
    They are also very similar but not quite the exact same.

    Seems that the safe route would be to buy .308 rifle to shoot both rounds.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So...after the Parkland shooting, Dick's Sporting Goods announced it would no longer carry assault style weapons. (I.e. AR-15). But it still carries this semi-automatic 22 LR "Ruger Precision Rimfire."



    I'm not a "gun enthusiast" so I don't know the difference. I know they advertise that it's for "hunting small game", but I see no reason why it couldn't kill a person. And I have learned enough to know that AR15's can take 22 LR. Isn't the 22 LR the most common bullet used by the military? What am I missing?
    I have not seen that before . Interesting , adjustable stock with a scope rail it most certainly appears to be a 7 or so shot , bolt action , match rifle for competitive target shooting . Probably make a decent starter pc for a kid to learn some accuracy with the sad exception that these days these are not made with a set of sights that would be below the scope which is how people should learn .
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Isn't that where criminals get most of their weapons?
    I get mine at the bait and tackle in the parking lot . I never see any real criminals there but some of the guys inside look like they have probably participated in tax evasion , mattress tampering , unwed mothers and other unscrupulous activities .
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I have not seen that before . Interesting , adjustable stock with a scope rail it most certainly appears to be a 7 or so shot , bolt action , match rifle for competitive target shooting . Probably make a decent starter pc for a kid to learn some accuracy with the sad exception that these days these are not made with a set of sights that would be below the scope which is how people should learn .
    Ruger Precision Rifle just launched that rifle in .300 Win Mag and .338 Lapua. About $1600 MSRP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    They are also very similar but not quite the exact same.

    Seems that the safe route would be to buy .308 rifle to shoot both rounds.



    I will have to check those videos out later. Everything I've seen is that it is the same exact bullet, case, and subsequently case pressure.

    And Lord knows I've been shooting them interchangeably.

    Rumor is the FAL eats up anything. Steel, brass, .308, 7.62... Read it on Wikipedia I think. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    Ruger Precision Rifle just launched that rifle in .300 Win Mag and .338 Lapua. About $1600 MSRP.
    That does not really sound like a deal to me .
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    That does not really sound like a deal to me .
    Not that I am enough of a marksman to consider mile long shots but if I were my glass would no doubt cost twice that.

    Their selling point is that it is a tack driver at an entry level price. When you are talking distances and accuracy like that you could spend that much money on a barrel or stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    That does not really sound like a deal to me .
    http://www.mcmillanfirearms.com/fire...ACfirearmsTab1

    $4,999 to start.

    Even a Remington 700, depending the options can get up into a couple grand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I got my Henry .22 at Dicks a few years back before they went stupid. I would have gone to a "real gun store" but there aren't many of those around here and the closest one that had it in stock was a 40 minute drive and more expensive. I wont shop at Dick's any longer though.

    One reason it can be difficult to find a "real gun store" in many areas is that, since the Clinton administration ATF has been embarked upon a deliberate, consistent crusade to put as many licensed gun dealers out of business as possible. In 1994 there were around a quarter million licensed firearms dealers in the US. By 2005 that number had been reduced to approximately 50,000, almost exclusively due to ATF.

    ETA: also it should be noted that the overwhelming majority of dealers put out of business by ATF were guilty of no real criminal activity. They were mostly innocent people who got railroaded on minor technical paperwork "violations" or simply trumped up charges that were later proven false or dropped. By then however the innocent dealer was financially bankrupted and so went out of business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    I will have to check those videos out later. Everything I've seen is that it is the same exact bullet, case, and subsequently case pressure.

    And Lord knows I've been shooting them interchangeably.

    Rumor is the FAL eats up anything. Steel, brass, .308, 7.62... Read it on Wikipedia I think. Lol.
    That...I've run damn near everything you can think of through the FALs from match grade Remington .308 to Venezuelan and Israeli surplus 7.62 including tracer rounds.

    Never so much as a hiccup.

    The action is a damn excavator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    One reason it can be difficult to find a "real gun store" in many areas is that, since the Clinton administration ATF has been embarked upon a deliberate, consistent crusade to put as many licensed gun dealers out of business as possible. In 1994 there were around a quarter million licensed firearms dealers in the US. By 2005 that number had been reduced to approximately 50,000, almost exclusively due to ATF.

    ETA: also it should be noted that the overwhelming majority of dealers put out of business by ATF were guilty of no real criminal activity. They were mostly innocent people who got railroaded on minor technical paperwork "violations" or simply trumped up charges that were later proven false or dropped. By then however the innocent dealer was financially bankrupted and so went out of business.
    You are 100% correct, but there is one thing to note: specs lives in NJ.

    So did I until 1990, and even long before the Clintons, there were not a whole lot of gun stores around...being NJ of course, the most restricted state in the country.

    When I bought my first guns at 18, there were only two places that I can recall, within roughly an hour's drive, each one county apart: "The Sportsman's Shop" in Neptune and "Jackson Sporting Goods" in Jackson.

    ETA - Now that I think about it, there was one other place in Wall, on Rt 35...can't recall the name.

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