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    Salvini Demands Fresh Elections

    Italy's ruling party leader Matteo Salvini has just written in a note:
    "We are going to Parliament immediately to acknowledge that there is no longer a majority, as is evident from the vote on the Tav, and we quickly return the word to the voters."
    "...it is pointless for government to go ahead amid continuous quarrels."
    Salvini went on to say that he has told PM Conte that "it is necessary to formalize the crisis in parliament" following a failed vote on a new railroad link with France, and demanded "fresh elections."
    De Maio confirmed, via Ansa, that Five Star is ready for a vote.


    As The Telegraph notes, The League has by far the most to gain from fresh elections – its public support has more than doubled since last year from 17% to around 38%. After riding a wave of optimism during the general election last year, Five Star is now polling just 17% - half what it won at the election. If the League were to ally with other Right-wing parties such as Brothers of Italy and Silvio Berlusconi’s Forza Italia, the bloc would win more than 50% of the vote, polls suggest.

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    Italy's right-wing League party has introduced a no-confidence motion against Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte, with the leaders of the main parliamentary groups to decide on the exact date of the vote next week, La Stampa reported Aug. 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Italy's right-wing League party has introduced a no-confidence motion against Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte, with the leaders of the main parliamentary groups to decide on the exact date of the vote next week, La Stampa reported Aug. 9.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situa...prime-minister
    Not a surprise Conte has being in favor of more mass immigration and approved landings for NGOs ships. League party in the polls is holding steady with nearly 40% while leftists DP are at the bottom.

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    Italy's Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte has announced he will resign after his populist government lost the support of a key coalition member.

    More at: https://news.sky.com/story/italys-pr...ation-11789894
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    After more than a week of increasingly fraught negotiations that nearly blossomed into a full-blown political crisis, the Five Star Movement (M5S) and the Democratic Party (PD) have reportedly struck a deal to form a new coalition government with Giuseppe Conte as prime minister, according to Italian newswire ANSA.
    Earlier this month, League leader Matteo Salvini tried to dissolve the government by withdrawing his support for the coalition in an effort to try and call for new elections. However, he was thwarted when his former coalition partner, M5S leader Luigi di Maio, and his party engaged in negotiations with the centrist Democratic Party. On Wednesday night, the two parties finally reached an agreement to form a new coalition, with Conte - who had quit the government last week - returning to reprise his role as prime minister.
    The deal represents a formal split between the M5S and Salvini's the League, the two anti-establishment parties who had governed the country in an increasingly dysfunctional coalition that paired the far-left and far-right parties.


    Salvini’s hope was that the country would hold new elections in which he would likely be named prime minister, at the head of a hard-right coalition.
    The coalition will now be tasked with the responsibility for leading Italy through what's expected to be difficult budget negotiations with the EU.
    Meanwhile, the Telegraph reports that the League, Salvini's party, is furious, pointing out that his party wont 34% of the national vote in May’s European parliament elections, and that it was polling as high as 39% as recently as earlier this month. Salvini affirmed that he would stay on as Interior Minister and Deputy PM in the lame duck government - members of his party urged supporters to take to the streets to protest the party. Salvini held back from calling for his people to march in the streets, saying he was "not interest" in "popular insurrections." "Those happened back in 1848," he quipped.
    "Let’s hope that if a Democratic Party-Five Star government is formed, the people will rise up as soon as possible," said Alessandra Locatelli, a League minister.
    "They’re stealing the government by preventing Italians from going to a vote," she said.
    Salvini was similarly critical.
    "A government made up of Five Star and the Democrats will not correspond to the sentiment of the people," Salvini said. "If you make deals that are against nature, in the end the people will kick you out. Sooner or later, the judgement of the people will be heard."
    Since the new coalition has been formed, Italy will manage to avoid heading to new elections in the fall. Italian President Sergio Mattarella gave the coalition the mandate to former the new government. Conte will meet with Mattarella Thursday morning to be formally sworn in.


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    According to an Italian anon this is actually part of Salvini’s plan. According to him, the left forced Salvini to take on additional spending before they would give him his immigration policies. Soon, taxes will have to be raised massively to pay for it. Salvini was at a crossroads. He was very popular now, so if they held an election, the right would have won even more power, and the left would have lost short term, but then the taxation would have hit, the right would have been blamed for it, and the country might have swung very leftward long-term. Instead the desperate r-strategist left took the short term gain of getting rid of Salvini now, but this means the left will be hit with a nuclear explosion when it gets the blame for raising taxes and crushes the economy, and after that the hard right will be even more popular than they are now as they head into an election. And the public, which already hates the left, and which wanted elections now, will be ready to smash the left at the next election even more than they would have now.
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    Talks between Italy's anti-establishment Five Star Movement and the Democratic Party resumed on Saturday after a quarrel that had threatened to stop the nascent coalition in its tracks.Tensions remained however on the hot-button issue of migration, a highly emotive subject in Italy, where hundreds of thousands of people fleeing war and poverty have washed up in recent years after crossing the Mediterranean.
    The parties, former foes who have agreed to govern together to prevent Italy going to early elections, were tentatively up-beat after policy discussions, which were also attended by premier-designate Giuseppe Conte.
    "We have taken some steps forward," said Graziano Delrio, lower house leader of the Democratic Party (PD).
    Conte has been tasked with forming a new government following the collapse of Italy's populist coalition earlier this month.
    On Friday the M5S -- which has far more seats in parliament than its new ally -- had warned that the deal could still fall apart, should the PD not agree to a list of key demands.
    The suggestion by the Movement's chief, Luigi Di Maio, that he was ready to pull the plug and return to the polls alarmed the markets and angered the PD.
    "We'll see over the coming hours," Five Star's Senate chief Stefano Patuanelli told reporters Saturday, but the preliminary talks had gone well, he added.
    But just hours later the parties appeared once again set on a collision course.
    The M5S has insisted a controversial law -- crafted by one time coalition partner and hardline interior minister Matteo Salvini -- against charity ships which rescue people in the Mediterranean should not be altered or scrapped by the new government.
    PD chief Nicola Zingaretti however called for people trapped in limbo at sea on rescue ships to be given shelter.

    On Saturday, Salvini told a rally that a general election was the only option, saying "even my six-year old daughter laughs at the idea that the PD and M5S can agree on anything".

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/italy-coaliti...201100030.html
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    Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte has formed a new government with the Five Star Movement (M5S) and center-left Democratic Party, which was previously in opposition, the office of the country’s president stated on 4 September. The newly-formed government will be sworn in at 8:00 UTC on 5 September.

    More at: https://www.infowars.com/italian-pm-...ith-democrats/
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    As the de facto leader of Europe's anti-mass-migration movement, Salvini's departure from government may set back efforts to slow illegal immigration to the continent. Many analysts, however, believe that Salvini, who continues to lead his rivals in opinion polls, will be back in government soon and in an even stronger position than before.

    Although the anti-establishment, anti-EU M5S and the pro-establishment, pro-EU PD have long been political enemies, M5S appears to have set aside many of its core principles to meet PD's demands. For now, M5S has insisted on maintaining a hardline anti-illegal immigration law passed with the League in November 2018. The law, championed by Salvini, saw public support for the League skyrocket from 17% in the March 2018 election to 38% in August 2019.
    The new government — which aims to govern until the next general election, due to be held no later than May 2023 — will have to be approved in a vote of confidence by both houses of Parliament.
    The new governing alliance, if realized, may be short lived. In an interview with the Italian daily La Stampa, former Interior Minister Roberto Maroni of the Lega Nord party said that the new government, if it comes to fruition, will be "intrinsically weak" because it would exist, "not for a shared political project but only to avoid elections." He added that there was a possibility that the new government could last for the entire legislature "in order to avoid delivering the country to Salvini."
    Several Italian newspapers reported on efforts by German Chancellor Angela Merkel and other European officials to prevent early elections in Italy — solely to stop Salvini from becoming prime minister. Merkel reportedly ordered leaders of the PD to reach a coalition agreement with M5S. "Make the agreement and stop Salvini," she reportedly said.
    A leaked document showed that outgoing EU Budget Commissioner Günther Oettinger had offered to relax EU rules on public debt in exchange for "a pro-European government that does not work against Europe."
    Writing for the Italian daily Il Giornale, political correspondent Andrea Indini noted:
    "Berlin's interference with the decisions of the Democratic Party are not surprising at all. As we have reported in recent days, the first meeting between M5S and PD dates back to July 16, when Ursula von der Leyen was elected president of the European Commission, thanks in part to support from M5S and PD. Von der Leyen is not just any person, she is Merkel's clone. Her election is part of a strategy executed alongside French President Emmanuel Macron to split the nationalist bloc in Europe. It is certainly not a coincidence that, moments after Salvini pulled the plug on his government, [former Italian prime minister and former European Commission president] Romano Prodi, faster than a slingshot, called for Italy to be governed by an 'Ursula Coalition' that is formed by the same political forces [M5S and PD] that helped to elect von der Leyen.
    "That there are international interests behind the formation of the new coalition government is now clear to most. 'The Democratic Party is at the service of foreign countries,' Salvini said last night during a rally in Pinzolo. 'They think we are all sheep and slaves, ready to wait for what they say in Brussels and Paris, but the League defends the Italians, because we are free men.' At this point Salvini has no choice but to play the next match against the opposition with the weapons he has available. His men have already made it known that they will pass nothing in the Parliament that comes from M5S-PD, but above all from those who sponsor them: Merkel, Macron and Ursula von der Leyen."
    Salvini's political rivals relished his departure from government. Former Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, in a Facebook post, proclaimed: "Today, Salvini has left the political stage. Institutions 1 — Populism 0."
    Salvini, however, has vowed to fight:
    "While PD and others are fighting over government positions, we are preparing for the Italy that is to come from among the people. They will not be able to run away from the elections for long, let's get ready to win!"
    "Do you think I am afraid of a few months in opposition?" Salvini asked in a Facebook video. "You have not got rid of me with your political games. You do not know me, I do not give in." He has called for a protest against the new government in Rome on October 19. Polls show that 67% of Italians are in favor of early elections.
    International commentators agree that Salvini remains a political force to be reckoned with. International Business Editor of The Daily Telegraph, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, noted that Salvini is down but not out:
    "Be careful what you wish for in Italian politics. The exile of the volcanic Matteo Salvini is a Faustian Bargain for the EU establishment and the defenders of the euro project.
    "There must be a high chance that the Lega strongman — and de facto leader of the Continent's anti-EU rebellion — will sweep back into power with an overwhelming majority next year or soon after.
    "He may then be strong enough to push revolutionary changes through the Italian constitutional system that would be impossible sooner: A New Deal spending blitz backed by a politically-controlled Bank of Italy and a parallel "minibot" currency that neutralizes the enforcement tools of the European Central Bank.
    "His departure this week means that others will be left to grapple with Italy's intractable stagnation. It is they who will have to push through €23bn of austerity cuts to comply with the EU's stability pact and the fiscal compact, the paraphernalia of arcane budget rules concocted by lawyers and unworkable in a serious downturn. Mr. Salvini's hands will be clean. 'It is a win-win situation for us,' said Claudio Borghi, the Lega's economics chief."
    Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán thanked Salvini for his efforts "benefitting Italy and the whole of Europe including Hungary." In a letter published by the Hungarian news agency MTI, Orbán wrote:
    "We Hungarians will never forget that you were the first Western European leader to make an effort to prevent illegal migrants from flooding Europe via the Mediterranean Sea. Irrespective of future political developments in Italy and of the fact that we belong to different European party groups, we consider you as a brother in arms in the fight to preserve Europe's Christian heritage and stop migration."
    On August 30, meanwhile, 62 Pakistani migrants landed on an island off Gallipoli in southern Italy. On September 1, Salvini, who remains acting interior minister, banned the Alan Kurdi, a ship operated by the German charity Sea-Eye, with 13 migrants aboard, from entering Italian waters. Another ship, the Mare Jonio, is anchored a kilometer from the Italy's southernmost island of Lampedusa with 34 migrants who were rescued on August 28 off the coast of Libya.
    Salvini has warned that the new coalition would end his ban on migrant boats arriving from Africa: "If the PD wants to reopen the doors and allow the business of illegal immigration to start up again, it should tell that to Italians."


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