Trump Calls for Linking New Gun Control Legislation to Immigration Reform

[jmdrake]

https://reason.com/2019/08/05/trump-...ration-reform/

This should be interesting.

"We cannot let those killed in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, die in vain," wrote the president. "Republicans and Democrats must come together and get strong background checks, perhaps marrying this legislation with desperately needed immigration reform. We must have something good, if not GREAT, come out of these two tragic events!"

Hmmmm....who was it that said "Never let a good tragedy go to waste?"

[r3volution 3.0]

...must have been reading Sworthsmyth's posts, trying to think of a way to break his resolve.

[Swordsmyth]

...must have been reading Sworthsmyth's posts, trying to think of a way to break his resolve.

Even if the immigration law was perfect it would be a bad trade.
It's better to have guns for the civil war against the left and their invader pets than to be disarmed in the same country as American leftists.

[jmdrake]

Even if the immigration law was perfect it would be a bad trade.
It's better to have guns for the civil war against the left and their invader pets than to be disarmed in the same country as American leftists.

[Anti Federalist]

Would have been better off with Hillary...

[brushfire]

Would have been better off with Hillary...

Oh no... you didn't hear? Trumps putting "crooked Hillary" behind bars... He said so.

[Swordsmyth]

Would have been better off with Hillary...

I'm not sure about that yet.

But I used to be sure we wouldn't have been.

[Anti Federalist]

Oh no... you didn't hear? Trumps putting "crooked Hillary" behind bars... He said so.

[Anti Federalist]

I'm not sure about that yet.

But I used to be sure we wouldn't have been.

The only fly in this ointment is SCROTUS appointments.

But those are always liable to be disappointments.

Discounting that, we'd be much better off.

We'd be the "woke mob" SNAFUing the works to hell and gone.

[Swordsmyth]

The only fly in this ointment is SCROTUS appointments.

But those are always liable to be disappointments.

Discounting that, we'd be much better off.

We'd be the "woke mob" SNAFUing the works to hell and gone.

The exposure of the deepstate is also something huge that wouldn't have happened if Hitlery had won and it may yet result in purges.

But Trump is no longer exceeding my early expectations by nearly so much.

[brushfire]

...The exposure of the deepstate is also something huge that wouldn't have happened if Hitlery had won...

Ill definitely give you that, but in the scheme of things it dont matter a bit. The Gell-Mann amnesia effect takes place on the very next page, and boobus will still be boobus.

[Anti Globalist]

Oh no... you didn't hear? Trumps putting "crooked Hillary" behind bars... He said so.

And hes also going to get rid of all the secret prisons that we have across the world.

[brushfire]

And hes also going to get rid of all the secret prisons that we have across the world.

[PAF]

Would have been better off with Hillary...

I would never vote for that rag bitch. But the reality is, like under obama who was the worlds greatest gun salesman, republicans would be standing their ground defending the core republican platform... Private Property Rights, Private Contract Rights, Gun Rights and everything else they have stupidly abandoned under this NY LIB.

[Occam's Banana]

Trump Calls for Linking New Gun Control Legislation to Immigration Reform

I said this just a week and half ago in another thread:

I refer to Trump as a "half-assed" gun-grabber because I suspect he'd be willing to go a lot further than he has so far - but he's just too chicken$#@! to try it because it would probably alienate so many of his supporters. In fact, after and if he is reelected, I won't be the least bit surprised if that's what happens. It might not happen. He strikes me as a narcissist who's more likely to be concerned with fostering a "legacy" of having left office while still being adored and venerated by his supporters than with any of his gun-grabby impulses (or anything else, for that matter). But if it does happen, I won't be at all shocked - nor should anyone else be.

Looks like Trump has started groping for his other cheek. The only question now is whether he'll actually find it ...

[otherone]

I'm not sure about that yet.

But I used to be sure we wouldn't have been.

good for you.

[oyarde]

There will be no immigration reform .

[jmdrake]

There will be no immigration reform .

Maybe there won't be. Or maybe there will be immigration reform that betrays Trump's base.

[oyarde]

Maybe there won't be. Or maybe there will be immigration reform that betrays Trump's base.

I think he already has problems with his base . He is going to have to rely on the dems to pick someone like bernie to get where he wants to go .

[euphemia]

We'd be the "woke mob" SNAFUing the works to hell and gone.

I don’t know about that. How many times did we march on Washington, or any other place, during the Obama years?

[enhanced_deficit]

Would have been better off with Hillary...

Hillary would not have been able to get anything done on DACA deal, take the due process first, bump stock ban etc, she has relatively poor deal making skills.


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[Swordsmyth]

Hillary would not have been able to get anything done on DACA deal, take the due process first, bump stock ban etc, she has relatively poor deal making skills.

She would have done much worse things.

The only questions are whether that would have provoked a revolution or not and whether Trump is still more good than bad or not.

[Stratovarious]

Oh no... you didn't hear? Trumps putting "crooked Hillary" behind bars... He said so.

What that piece of (... ) says and what his real plans were;

America First // Israel first

Hillary Prison // Nice person, lifetime immunity to prosecution

Don't get me wrong, I supported Trump and he did some good, but I no longer have
any respect for him whatsoever.

[brushfire]

What that piece of (... ) says and what his real plans were;

America First // Israel first

Hillary Prison // Nice person, lifetime immunity to prosecution

Don't get me wrong, I supported Trump and he did some good, but I no longer have
any respect for him whatsoever.

I'm pretty sure you're not alone in that regard.

Maybe if the democraps continue to implode and trump has enough defectors, we can have a good 3rd party turnout? Cue the orphan annie soundtrack!

[Stratovarious]

I'm pretty sure you're not alone in that regard.

Maybe if the democraps continue to implode and trump has enough defectors, we can have a good 3rd party turnout? Cue the orphan annie soundtrack!

ha ha........yep...

[PAF]

Trump Calls for Linking New Gun Control Legislation to Immigration Reform

Key word "linking".

Anybody want to speculate how?

I see National eVerify/Biometrics playing a heavy role, the only way to differentiate "them" from "us" and government contracts with MIC turned domestic. Top corporate lobbyist and ex-Raytheon VP, the new SecDef Mark Esper with an overwhelming 90–8 vote will guide Americans into a new technological and anti-4th Amendment era.

As for anti-2nd Amendment gun control, trump figured out that States trump Fed (10th Amendment), and states are now doing it, along with raising the age to 21 with very tasty compromise bills. This way he avoids EO which would hurt 2020, to keep his grubby fingers clean.

[Swordsmyth]

Trump Calls for Linking New Gun Control Legislation to Immigration Reform

Key word "linking".

Anybody want to speculate how?

He's probably suggesting a single bill to cover both.

I see National eVerify/Biometrics playing a heavy role, the only way to differentiate "them" from "us" and government contracts with MIC turned domestic. Top corporate lobbyist and ex-Raytheon VP, the new SecDef Mark Esper with an overwhelming 90–8 vote will guide Americans into a new technological and anti-4th Amendment era.

That's not the only way to identify the invaders.

As for anti-2nd Amendment gun control, trump figured out that States trump Fed (10th Amendment), and states are now doing it, along with raising the age to 21 with very tasty compromise bills. This way he avoids EO which would hurt 2020, to keep his grubby fingers clean.

I have repeatedly criticized Trump's attempts to "compromise" on gun control.

[showpan]

Even if the immigration law was perfect it would be a bad trade.
It's better to have guns for the civil war against the left and their invader pets than to be disarmed in the same country as American leftists.

It's not the leftists that are destroying this country...lol....it is rich and powerful corporations who have planted their puppets into our government. They are the people destroying this country. Please stop blaming the wrong folks. If you do take up arms, do it for the right reasons and against the right people, not against other Americans who simply disagree with your ideology. That is un-american.

[Swordsmyth]

It's not the leftists that are destroying this country...lol....it is rich and powerful corporations who have planted their puppets into our government. They are the people destroying this country. Please stop blaming the wrong folks. If you do take up arms, do it for the right reasons and against the right people, not against other Americans who simply disagree with your ideology. That is un-american.

The leftists are unAmerican and they are destroying our rights just as much or more than the oligarchs who use them against us.
When the civil war comes it will be because they start it either by trying to overthrow a conservative government or by trying something like house to house gun confiscation.

[invisible]

Of course it's linked. Both issues are used to continue expanding the big government police state. Linking the two is a way to get even more gullible people to support this crap.