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    Trump condemns ‘racism, bigotry and white supremacy’

    Do you join Prez Trump in his condemnation of ‘racism, bigotry and white supremacy’?



    Trump condemns ‘racism, bigotry and white supremacy’ in speech after mass shootings kill 29

    Published 17 min ago
    Kevin Breuninger

    Key Points

    • President Donald Trump on Monday condemned “racism, bigotry and white supremacy” in the wake of two mass shootings over the weekend that left 29 dead and dozens more injured.
    • The president, who had earlier spoken out on Twitter to suggest that lawmakers work to pass legislation that tied immigration reform with background checks for gun purchases, provided a list policies intended to address mass shootings during in remarks from the White House.
    • Americans are “outraged and sickened by this monstrous evil, the cruelty, the hatred, the malice, the bloodshed and the terror,” Trump said in the roughly 10-minute speech.



    President Donald Trump on Monday condemned “racism, bigotry and white supremacy” in the wake of two mass shootings over the weekend that left 29 dead and dozens more injured.

    He backed so-called red-flag laws that enable guns to be removed from high-risk individuals, called for mass shooters to be given the death penalty and vowed to address radicalization through the internet and social media.
    He did not mention his prior call for background checks — an overwhelmingly popular gun control measure that has already passed the Democrat-controlled House — in his roughly 10-minute speech.
    Americans are “outraged and sickened by this monstrous evil, the cruelty, the hatred, the malice, the bloodshed and the terror,” Trump said.
    “Hate has no place in America … hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart and devours the soul,” Trump said.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/05/trum...supremacy.html





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    George is right. Killing random civilians to spread a political message is terrorism. FBI classifies it as domestic terrorism, but “white terrorism” is more precise. Many of the killers are lone-wolf losers indoctrinated to hate through the internet, just like Islamic terrorists. https://t.co/uyyjkoh1fR

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    Joey Jones of Foxnews on white supremacists and white supremacist evil doers
    "If you're a white supremacist or thinking about it, you're not American , we renounce you, this is not a country for you... if you do anything evil, we will find you, we will hunt you down and take you out, we renounce you."

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    Trump pardons Jack Johnson erasing conviction for violating Anti White Slave Act



    05/25/2018
    Jack Johnson Was Pardoned, But Taboo Sex Is Still Being Criminalized

    By Jenavieve Hatch
    President Donald Trump posthumously pardoned Jack Johnson on Thursday, erasing the black boxer’s century-old conviction for violating the Mann Act — a 1910 law that prohibited transporting “any woman or girl” across state lines “for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose” — by driving his white girlfriend from Pittsburgh to Chicago.

    All this has happened before
    The Mann Act, also known as the White-Slave Traffic Act, was enacted in response to public hysteria about sensational yet unconfirmed reports of white women being kidnapped and trafficked by foreign men.

    Throughout the first half of the 20th century, thousands of people were prosecuted under the act. Johnson’s conviction in 1912 was a prime example of the broad power of a law pitched as a way to stop what was at the time called white slavery. His crime was, essentially, being black and driving across state lines with a white woman, even though she went voluntarily and was his girlfriend.



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    •The president, who had earlier spoken out on Twitter to suggest that lawmakers work to pass legislation that tied immigration reform with background checks for gun purchases, provided a list policies intended to address mass shootings during in remarks from the White House.

    I KNEW this would happen. I have several posts on the lobbyists/contractors profiting immensely by this manufactured War on Immigration, as the War on Drugs and the War on Private Property continues.



    When government gets involved, you can bet your lifes savings that government will make it worse.

    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3)

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    •The president, who had earlier spoken out on Twitter to suggest that lawmakers work to pass legislation that tied immigration reform with background checks for gun purchases, provided a list policies intended to address mass shootings during in remarks from the White House.
    So much winning...right?
    ClydeCoulter on the Liberty Movement:
    Yeah, they'll argue over roads and religion, but there are certain themes that bind, among those are freedom and the search for truth and justice.

    Loyalists gonna loyal.

  5. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I KNEW this would happen.
    ..
    I assume you're not a MAGA supporter, most or perhaps all of his supporters did not expect this.

  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    I assume you're not a MAGA supporter, most or perhaps all of his supporters did not expect this.
    Hang on, hang, he doesn't punch in for a while yet.
    ClydeCoulter on the Liberty Movement:
    Yeah, they'll argue over roads and religion, but there are certain themes that bind, among those are freedom and the search for truth and justice.

    Loyalists gonna loyal.

  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    I assume you're not a MAGA supporter, most or perhaps all of his supporters did not expect this.

    That's what happens when one works as hard as they have to ignore the obvious. When it happens it takes one totally by surprise.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  9. #8
    No.

    I don't think that Trump is a white supremacist, nor do I approve of racially-motivated violence, but it plays too much into the left's narrative.

    I checked out Twitter recently, and AOC (as one example) has posted scores of tweets, probably 80% of them about white supremacy. There's obviously an axe to grind here, and I can guarantee that it's not all against bona fide white supremacists.
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon



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    Is not wanting illegal aliens to be able to get tax payer paid healthcare and laughing about Castro saying that male to female transgenders should have access to abortions considered racist, bigoted, and white supremacist?

  12. #10
    wow after the shootings leftists on social media are going nut balls.

    "I will make sure this orange man wont win in 2020, he didnt win in 2016, Russia helped him"
    "We miss Hillary Clinton"

    "Right Wingers started useless wars"

  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Is not wanting illegal aliens to be able to get tax payer paid healthcare and laughing about Castro saying that male to female transgenders should have access to abortions considered racist, bigoted, and white supremacist?
    Yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    No.

    I don't think that Trump is a white supremacist, nor do I approve of racially-motivated violence, but it plays too much into the left's narrative.

    I checked out Twitter recently, and AOC (as one example) has posted scores of tweets, probably 80% of them about white supremacy. There's obviously an axe to grind here, and I can guarantee that it's not all against bona fide white supremacists.

    While it's true that this plays into the left's narrative , this implies Trump is 'Right' , a claim most of people probably won't agree with.

    But taking the argument on face value and using same logic, do you also oppose Trump administration's global campaigns for LGBTQ civil rights, against anti-semitism that are usually associated with the left/liberals and thus would play into left's narratives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    While it's true that this plays into the left's narrative , this implies Trump is 'Right' , a claim most of people probably won't agree with.

    But taking the argument on face value and using same logic, do you also oppose Trump administration's global campaigns for LGBTQ civil rights, against anti-semitism that are usually associated with the left/liberals and thus would play into left's narratives?
    I don't really care because we are not being gaslighted with those issues at the moment.

    My biggest issue is that "white supremacy" is being cited as the reason for the recent mass shootings despite not being factual (perhaps El Paso, certainly not Dayton). It's bull$#@! that pisses me off, and it's obvious that they receive marching orders in order to coordinate their attacks and gaslight us in real time. When Trump uses their language he is essentially bending the knee to them by allowing them to control the conversation. I say $#@! 'em.
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon

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    I have not voted yet . I want to see some real supremacists .
    Do something Danke

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I have not voted yet . I want to see some real supremacists .
    Hardcore government supremacist:

    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    Hardcore government supremacist:

    That is a convincing supremacist .
    Do something Danke



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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Is not wanting illegal aliens to be able to get tax payer paid healthcare and laughing about Castro saying that male to female transgenders should have access to abortions considered racist, bigoted, and white supremacist?
    No, at least not by sane people, but being a white supremacist is considered being a white supremacist.

    And there's an increasing number of those, just as there's an increasing number of anti-white racists.

    It would be nice if those two groups only offed one another, but alas.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Cap View Post
    Hang on, hang, he doesn't punch in for a while yet.
    Chuckle to myself.....(one click down from laugh out loud)
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    No, at least not by sane people, but being a white supremacist is considered being a white supremacist.

    And there's an increasing number of those, just as there's an increasing number of anti-white racists.

    It would be nice if those two groups only offed one another, but alas.
    You gotta point there.

  23. #20
    ...racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. Do I have to condemn all 3?


    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
    Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"



  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    wow after the shootings leftists on social media are going nut balls.

    [...]

    "Right Wingers started useless wars"
    As opposed to all those useful wars started by Left Wingers ...


    Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)

    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law." - The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." - Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
      - Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)
    • "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
      - Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)

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    Do i get a Certificate of Condemnation as proof? Or, as I suspect, will I have to beg and grovel for forgiveness to every "poc" and woke white female or white gay male that demands it of me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    ...racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. Do I have to condemn all 3?

    The pig is truly a wonderful magical animal.

    And so is the White Male Chauvinist Pig.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The pig is truly a wonderful magical animal.

    And so is the White Male Chauvinist Pig.
    On a more serious note, the whole "you must denounce evil" is a childish control game. One need only look at trumps staff and family to know that he is not a bigot, racist, or a white supremacist (how can you be one of those things an not the other?). From my perspective, trump is an a$$hole, not a bigot. Trump has never felt obligated to play this game before, why now? I know the answer to that, and its the same reason why its "flop-30" in trumpville - brace for impact.

    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
    Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"



  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    I don't really care because we are not being gaslighted with those issues at the moment.

    My biggest issue is that "white supremacy" is being cited as the reason for the recent mass shootings despite not being factual (perhaps El Paso, certainly not Dayton). It's bull$#@! that pisses me off, and it's obvious that they receive marching orders in order to coordinate their attacks and gaslight us in real time. When Trump uses their language he is essentially bending the knee to them by allowing them to control the conversation. I say $#@! 'em.

    Understand your argument, however it's not just 'language' being used now, this view is now guiding MAGA policies also as FBI Dir cited record arrests this year related to domestic threats and he stated that most of these were 'white supremacy' related.

    Policy making leaders at White HOuse, FBI, DOJ as well as 'conservative media leader' Foxnews seem to be all on the same page, all that indicates convergence on the new policy stance.

    Joey Jones of Foxnews on white supremacists and white supremacist evil doers
    "If you're a white supremacist or thinking about it, you're not American , we renounce you, this is not a country for you... if you do anything evil, we will find you, we will hunt you down and take you out, we renounce you."

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    On a more serious note, the whole "you must denounce evil" is a childish control game. One need only look at trumps staff and family to know that he is not a bigot, racist, or a white supremacist (how can you be one of those things an not the other?). From my perspective, trump is an a$$hole, not a bigot. Trump has never felt obligated to play this game before, why now? I know the answer to that, and its the same reason why its "flop-30" in trumpville - brace for impact.
    It's pretty obvious that Trump has no principles (racist or otherwise), but he does say things, some of which encourage racism.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken



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