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    Yoots, Guns, Cameras, SF Chinatown

    Sorry folks, no video. In SF, they offer a $20k reward, but they don’t give out descriptions or pictures of the attackers.

    The Chinatown community is rallying together for change after the most recent violent attack on their streets, where one of the Chinatown Benevolent Association leaders and his friend were beaten by four men at the corner of Stockton and Pacific last week.
    ...
    A $20,000 reward is now being offered to help find the four men responsible for this most latest attack. The donations from various benevolent associations and community members will also go toward anyone who steps up to testify in the case.
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    More: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mor...ght/ar-AAEIGpT
    SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- Mayor London Breed came to Chinatown to assure everyone that City Hall would be doing all it can to protect them.

    The recent series of violent street crimes filled the entire front page today of the Chinese language newspaper World Journal.
    ...
    A video shows a man with a stick smashing windows of cars along Stockton street.

    Stills last week show a Chinese community leader unconscious on the ground just after he was attacked by a group who stole his gold Rolex watch.

    He sits waiting for an ambulance which witnesses say took a half-hour to respond.

    Another video shows Chang Hwang being beaten by the same assailants as he was on that same crosswalk.
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    More: https://abc7news.com/london-breed-to...niors/5414358/
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    Hope those punks end up getting arrested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Hope those punks end up getting arrested.
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    SF Chinese group promotes gun ownership after community crime scare

    SF Chinese group promotes gun ownership after community crime scare

    San Franciscans, would you believe there’s a renewed gun rights movement rooted right here in our liberal City by the Bay?

    And it’s growing — albeit gingerly — among one of our oldest local groups: The San Francisco Chinese community.

    Now, let me not sensationalize. The numbers of folks involved are still in the hundreds, according to organizers.

    But growing fear is creating an environment ripe for growth: If you read Chinese-language newspapers, a perception of rising crime against Chinese locals is the hot story of the moment.

    Statistics have not yet borne out a rise in crime against the Chinese community, but a handful of crimes have been high profile enough to stir people mightily.

    From a 74-year-old woman kidnapped in Crocker-Amazon and raped for almost five hours, to the public, daytime beating and robbery of the 56-year-old chairman of the Wong Family Benevolent Association, violent crime has gripped local Chinese news media and its audience in recent months.

    Wendy Wong, for one, is fed up feeling like a victim, she told me.

    The 32-year Sunset District resident and her group, the Coalition for Good Neighborhoods, are organizing gun education meetings for the San Francisco Chinese community.

    “If the police [are] not able to enforce the law, if the victims are not protected and we have been victimized, again and again, and again, it’s about time for us to unify and see how we can protect themselves,” she said Wednesday.

    She told me she isn’t a “pro-gun” person. “I’m not like that. Eye-for-an-eye is not what I believe in,” she said. But after the recent high-profile attacks, people in the Chinese community are “paralyzed” by fear, she said.
    ...
    “I believe there will be more people,” Wong said. Gun range operators reached out to her after the World Journal coverage dropped.

    When I first read the World Journal story, with the handy-help of Google Translate, my jaw dropped. You have to understand, San Francisco is so firearm-unfriendly we don’t even have a gun store anymore.

    But Wong is far from alone.

    Mayoral candidate Ellen Lee Zhou also backs arming the Chinese community.
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    “Can you imagine if all the Asian people owned a gun and they could protect themselves?” she told me Wednesday, with a lilt in her voice conveying this would be her utopia.

    I, of course, had to push back a bit — what about all of our recent mass shootings? Didn’t more guns in our society make those possible? Think of Gilroy, I said.

    “The people who shoot at us, the mass shootings, they’ll always get [guns], because they’re bad,” she answered. “Good people like you and me, who have common sense, if we could carry we could come out and defend ourselves.”
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    More: https://www.sfexaminer.com/news-colu...y-crime-scare/
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    Violent crime increasing in San Francisco’s Chinatown

    Since the beginning of the year, there have been at least eight high profile violent attacks in the Chinese community.

    This includes one a week ago where two men were attacked and robbed in broad daylight in Chinatown.
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    https://www.kron4.com/news/violent-c...cos-chinatown/

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    San Francisco is so firearm-unfriendly we don’t even have a gun store anymore.
    Are you freaking serious?? Not ONE in the whole city???

    There are at least two gun stores in my highly progressive town, and we are 1/10th of the population....

    There must be hundreds in LA...
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    It reminds me of the Koreans who defended their businesses during the LA riots.
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    Better late than never. Unfortunately, it takes a complete breakdown like they have in leftist SF right now before people understand just one reason for supporting gun rights. And they still don’t truly understand or support the Second Amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Are you freaking serious?? Not ONE in the whole city???

    There are at least two gun stores in my highly progressive town, and we are 1/10th of the population....

    There must be hundreds in LA...
    They are not the only city in the Bay Area like that. The local governments have driven most of gun stores out.
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    But will they stop voting Demoncrat?
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    They look Nigerian.
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    People that have fled Communism believe in our second amendment. Go figure. The local Hmong community is hugely pro-second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    They look Nigerian.
    Classic Danke, I knew you were going to say that. Lets just hope the Chinese don't confuse every black person for Nigerians

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    People that have fled Communism believe in our second amendment. Go figure. The local Hmong community is hugely pro-second.
    In China they would probably catch then quickly and beat the $#@! out of em. Some societies can enforce strict morality without guns.

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    This is a huge mistake , does not bode well for our LEO's, depts, coroners offices etc,
    armed citizens infringe on and lessen solid crime statistic numbers, diminishing reasons/excuses, opportunities
    to murder citizens, kill pets in front of terrified children and plant evidence, in order
    to secure funding through asset forfeiture, none of this is going to support tyranny.



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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Classic Danke, I knew you were going to say that. Lets just hope the Chinese don't confuse every black person for Nigerians
    Whenever I see a Nigerian approaching, I cross the sidewalk to the other side, same for the Somalis.
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    Guns should remain in the hands of professionals where they belong. There is no need for these Chinatown residents in San Francisco to have guns of their own.

    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 08-22-2019 at 10:45 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    But will they stop voting Demoncrat?
    The democrat party should be forced to change their name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    But will they stop voting Demoncrat?
    Probably not. It’s a one party state, and they may be used to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Guns should remain in the hands of professionals where they belong. There is no need for these Chinatown residents in San Francisco to have guns of their own.

    Using her cell phone to record the incident, rather than calling 911 to speak with her protectors.

    Just as well, if her protectors failed to save her, there would have been no legal recourse - cause the SCOTUS have ruled that police are under no obligation to protect, or serve the matter. So record on! Maybe if she died, they could use the phone video to get her killers, or perhaps even use the video against her if she survived. Either way, cell video makes a b!chin tv news story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    Using her cell phone to record the incident, rather than calling 911 to speak with her protectors.

    Just as well, if her protectors failed to save her, there would have been no legal recourse - cause the SCOTUS have ruled that police are under no obligation to protect, or serve the matter. So record on! Maybe if she died, they could use the phone video to get her killers, or perhaps even use the video against her if she survived. Either way, cell video makes a b!chin tv news story.
    If you go to the OP article, as a whole it is anti-gun. Here is their alternative (more government):

    Pius Lee, chairman of the Chinatown Neighborhood Association, organized a political response quickly after the robbery of the chairman of the Wong Family Benevolent Association last month.

    He told me simply stepping up police patrols in Chinatown, and even the soon-to-come expansion of surveillance cameras on Stockton Street, should help. There was also a $20,000 award put out by the community to anyone who could help identify the attackers.

    “People don’t feel safe,” Lee acknowledged by phone Wednesday. But, “we don’t want to encourage people to arm themselves, it’s too dangerous, it’s not in today’s society. We have to rely on the police to protect us, but we want them to do a better job.”
    “Better job”. Lol.
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  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Probably not. It’s a one party state, and they may be used to that.
    They also support its socialist policies above all else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Guns should remain in the hands of professionals where they belong. There is no need for these Chinatown residents in San Francisco to have guns of their own.

    Update:

    SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) — Police in San Francisco on Monday announced the arrest of two male suspects in connection with a daytime shooting on Market Street last week that left one person injured.
    ...
    The footage also shows one of the three suspects physically assaulting an unknown person. Cell phone footage taken by a pedestrian in the area also showed one of the suspects shooting a pistol toward a nearby crowd.

    After a bulletin about the incident was distributed to local law enforcement, two of the suspects were identified by officers from the Oakland Police Department as 18-year-old Oakland resident Lerron Simpson and 21 year-old Oakland resident Elijah Ernest. Investigations also revealed that Ernest was a Parolee at Large with a warrant for his arrest.
    ...
    More: https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...reet-shooting/
    Was he on the red flag list?
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    Related:

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    A city notorious for not prosecuting criminals or hindering crime installs video cameras to much fanfare. Almost seems to be a con game.

    San Francisco installs 18 street cameras in Chinatown after rash of crimes

    SAN FRANCISCO (KTVU) - Increased safety measures are now helping keep the community safer in San Francisco's Chinatown.

    San Francisco Mayor London Breed, Supervisor Aaron Peskin, Chinatown Neighborhood Association chair Pius Lee and others made the announcement on Thursday, touting the fact that there are 18 public safety cameras, which are now operational.

    They said that these new, high-definition cameras are installed along a two-block stretch of Stockton Street from the tunnel at Sacramento to Washington streets.

    The calls for increased security measures comes after a number of crimes, one of the most recent was last month.
    ...
    And now, with the installation of these cameras, the city is hoping they will assist police should a crime take place and they hope their presence will be a deterrent to criminals.
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    More: http://www.ktvu.com/news/san-francis...rash-of-crimes
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    Video: Vicious beatings in SF’s Chinatown; police seek 4 men
    Nov. 10, 2019

    Vicious beatings captured on video in San Francisco’s Chinatown sent two men to a hospital Saturday night. Police are seeking four men who fled the scene in a dark-colored sport utility vehicle.

    The video, which was shot at night from a rooftop beside Portsmouth Square at the intersection of Clay Street and Walter U Lum Place, shows a man in black sweatpants punching an older man in the street beside a horrified crowd. The man in sweatpants turns and hits another older man, who collapses unconscious and appears to hit his head on a concrete tree basin, as witnesses scream. Then the man in sweatpants returns to hit the first victim again before he and companions run into a waiting SUV and drive away.

    Police arrived at the scene in response to a robbery call at 9:08 p.m. and called an ambulance, they said in a statement.
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    More: https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...n-14824606.php
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  31. #27
    Note: video captured by a private citizen, not by the many govt cameras installed by the city....

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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    People that have fled Communism believe in our second amendment. Go figure. The local Hmong community is hugely pro-second.

    Indeed. Go figure.
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  33. #29
    I have bought guns at yard sales in Indiana .
    Do something Danke

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I have bought guns at yard sales in Indiana .
    Did they let you test fire a few rounds in the front yard?
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