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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Would you like to live through regime change?
    As opposed to being ruled by satanic pedophiles?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    As opposed to being ruled by satanic pedophiles?
    Would you say we are today ruled by satanic pedophiles?

  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Would you say we are today ruled by satanic pedophiles?
    We are in a transition phase. Before Trump, yes. Now the power is shifting and Trump is about to take out the deep state.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    We are in a transition phase. Before Trump, yes. Now the power is shifting and Trump is about to take out the deep state.
    Is that why he hired all those Deep State people to work for him?

  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Is that why he hired all those Deep State people to work for him?
    He was just trying to make the deep state feel comfortable while he consolidated power.

    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    He was just trying to make the deep state feel comfortable while he consolidated power.
    If you say so....

  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    If you say so....
    That's what a lot of people have been saying all along, Mr. SSRI's Don't Cause Mass Shootings
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    That's what a lot of people have been saying all along, Mr. SSRI's Don't Cause Mass Shootings
    Yeah, because everybody who takes SSRIs becomes a mass shooter.



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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Yeah, because everybody who takes SSRIs becomes a mass shooter.
    Nobody ever said that everybody who takes SSRIs becomes a mass shooter, it's that the vast majority of mass shooters were on or had taken psychotropics.. and in most cases, SSRIs. I would be willing to wager most mass shootings are caused by psychological, auditory and visual hallucinations caused by SSRIs.

    The reason people here don't trust you is because you make ridiculous comments like the one above.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Nobody ever said that everybody who takes SSRIs becomes a mass shooter, it's that the vast majority of mass shooters were on or had taken psychotropics.. and in most cases, SSRIs. I would be willing to wager most mass shootings are caused by psychological, auditory and visual hallucinations caused by SSRIs.

    The reason people here don't trust you is because you make ridiculous comments like the one above.
    That's the usual Zippy's trick. Unless everybody is, nobody is.

  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Nobody ever said that everybody who takes SSRIs becomes a mass shooter, it's that the vast majority of mass shooters were on or had taken psychotropics.. and in most cases, SSRIs. I would be willing to wager most mass shootings are caused by psychological, auditory and visual hallucinations caused by SSRIs.

    The reason people here don't trust you is because you make ridiculous comments like the one above.
    What percent of people who take SSRIs become killers? What percent of "mass killers" actually were on them? (seems anytime one gets posted somebody here claims they think the person must have been using them but which ones actually were?) Maybe you could go through this list and tells us how man were on SSRI's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...States_in_2019

    If 13% of people take them, that is 43 million people. How many mass murderers are there?
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 07-30-2019 at 03:06 PM.

  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    What percent of people who take SSRIs become killers? What percent of "mass killers" actually were on them? (seems anytime one gets posted somebody here claims they think the person must have been using them but which ones actually were?) Maybe you could go through this list and tells us how man were on SSRI's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...States_in_2019

    Here are just some examples:
    • 1989: Joseph T. Wesbecker walked into his former employer Standard Gravure Corp and shot 20 workers, killing nine. He had been taking Prozac for a month. This shooting led to a landmark case, where the survivors sued the makers of Prozac, Eli Lilly. Wesbecker used a semiautomatic Chinese AK-47-style firearm, a 9mm pistol, and a .38 Special snubnose revolver – all of which he purchased legally, passing his background check.
    • 1995: Jarred Viktor was 15 when he was prescribed Paxil. Ten days after starting it, Viktor stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
    • 1996: At 18, Kurt Danysh murdered his father just 17 days after being prescribed Prozac by his family doctor, who failed to do even one psychological test. During his police confession, Danysh told police the medication made him feel odd, “I just act differently. I don’t have the energy or personality I used to. I spend half the time in a trance.”
    • 1997: Luke Woodham stabbed his mother, then traveled to Pearl High School, where he was enrolled, using a .30-30 to shoot two students and wound six others; he was stopped by his assistant principal (aka a good guy with a gun) who used his own .45 ACP handgun to force Woodham’s surrender.
    • 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel shot both of his parents, then carried a 9mm handgun, .22 rifle, and a .22 pistol to his Thurston High School, where he murdered two classmates and injured 22 more, all while taking Prozac.
    • 1999: Eric Harris, 17, with Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students, one teacher, himself, and wounded 23 others during the Columbine school shooting; he had been prescribed Zoloft and then Luvox before he used a 12 gauge shotgun received through a straw purchaser and a 9mm TEC-DC9.
    • 2001: Christopher Pittman, a 12-year-old, was prescribed Zoloft, which caused him to become agitated, jittery, and experience tactile hallucinations; Pittman told psychiatrist Dr. Lanette Atkins that he heard voices telling him, “Kill, kill, do it, do it.” He took a .410 shotgun and shot his grandparents, then burned their house down.
    • 2001: Andrea Yates drowned all five of her children. She was taking Effexor and was suffering from delusions about satanic possession. The murder of her children led Effexor to list homicidal thoughts in the medication’s side effects. Although it’s a rare side effect, manifesting in one in 1,000 patients, over 19 million prescriptions were written and filled in 2005. That’s an estimated 19,000 people suffering from homicidal thoughts because of the medication.
    • 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise was taking 60 mg/day of Prozac, the highest dosage for adults, when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend, murdered 10 students at Red Lake, Minnesota, and wounded 12 more, before shooting himself. He was armed with a .40 caliber pistol, .22 pistol, and a 12 gauge shotgun.
    • 2008: Steven Kazmierczak was prescribed Prozac, Xanax, and Ambien, a sleeping medication, three weeks before walking into Northern Illinois University, killing six people and wounding 21, with three pistols (one chambered in 9mm and two in .380 ACP) and a shotgun. Kazmierczak had stopped taking the antidepressant “because it made him feel like a zombie.”
    • 2009: Two weeks after starting Lexapro, Robert Stewart walked into his estranged wife’s work at Pinelake Health and Rehab, and opened fire. He killed eight elderly patients and wounded three others. He doesn’t remember the incident.
    • 2012: James Holmes, also known as the Batman Movie killer, was taking sertraline when he walked into the showing of The Dark Knight with two .40 caliber pistols, an AR-style .223 rifle, and a 12 gauge shotgun, killing 12 people and injuring 70 others. In his personal notebook, which he sent to his psychiatrist the same day as the shooting, shows that as the medication decreased his anxiety, he lost his fear of consequences. As the dosage became higher, his thoughts became more obsessive and psychotic.
    • 2013: At the time of the Washington Navy Yard shooting, Aaron Alexis was a civilian contractor working at the yard and was prescribed trazodone, a serotonin antagonist and reuptake inhibitor (SARI) that works much like an SSRI to increase serotonin levels in the brain. He killed 12 people and injured eight others.
    • 2014: Ivan Lopez was a 34-year-old U.S. soldier who shot 15 of his comrades, killing three of them, at his base in Fort Hood, Texas. He was undergoing mental health treatment through the Veterans’ Administration, which is known for over-prescribing medication. The VA confirmed that Lopez was taking antidepressants (the VA only uses SSRI antidepressants) during the time of the shooting and his subsequent suicide.
    • 2015: From the moment it occurred, the Charleston Church shooting has been deemed an act of white supremacy, a race crime against blacks. But two years after Dylann Roof shot and killed nine people and injured another, the court released documents that show it was more mental health than hatred that led to the murders. The documents confirmed he was taking antidepressants.
    • 2016: Arcan Cetin, who was just 20 years old, walked into the Cascade Mall where he shot and killed four women, one just a teen, and shot one man, who later died at the hospital. Records show that Cetin was under the care of a psychiatrist and taking medication for depression and ADHD, including Prozac.



    The list goes on and on. And with the implication of patient privacy laws, getting information on the medication and mental health diagnoses of people has become harder and harder, even with mounting evidence that there’s a connection between SSRI use and violence.

    In 1996, the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act commonly referred to as HIPAA, was set in place. HIPAA represents the U.S.’s first attempt at national regulations for the use and disclosure of a person’s personal health information, or PHI. HIPAA makes it more difficult for medical personnel to release information regarding a person’s medical care, diagnosis, and prescription drugs, including those involved with mental health related crimes.

    For example, in the 2008 Virginia Tech shooting, perpetrator Seung Hui Cho had multiple interactions with the mental health department on campus, some for suicidal ideation, but yet his parents nor authorities were never notified. University officials stated privacy laws restricted them from sharing the information.

    Beyond the necessity for communication prior to these horrific shootings, after the incident, the person’s records are often protected. Even in situations where the perpetrator dies during the shooting, HIPAA protects their records for 50 years.

    Because of this, the American public doesn’t know what kind of medications these people were taking and if it may have had an affect on their actions. Just looking at public shootings over the last five years, there’s a huge list of murderers who were likely on SSRIs. Here are a few:


    • Zephen Xaver and the SunTrust Bank shooting
    • Ian David Long and the Thousand Oaks Nightclub shooting
    • Travis Reinking and the Waffle House shooting
    • Nikolas Cruz and the Parkland, Florida school shooting
    • Devin Patrick Kelley and the Texas church shooting
    https://libertarianinstitute.org/art...ass-shootings/

    Elliot Rogers wasn't even on the list.. he was known to have been prescribed Xanax and was likely prescribed other psychotropics including SSRIs.
    Last edited by dannno; 07-30-2019 at 03:05 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    https://libertarianinstitute.org/art...ass-shootings/

    Elliot Rogers wasn't even on the list.. he was known to have been prescribed Xanax and was likely prescribed other psychotropics including SSRIs.
    Because of this, the American public doesn’t know what kind of medications these people were taking and if it may have had an affect on their actions. Just looking at public shootings over the last five years, there’s a huge list of murderers who were likely on SSRIs.
    "Likely" doesn't mean they were.


    So 16 cases over thirty years (about one every two years) in a population of 330 million (42 million on SSRIs). How many shootings occurred in that time? Were they put on meds because they were mentally stable and then became killers? Did they already have existing mental health issues?

    For example, in the 2008 Virginia Tech shooting, perpetrator Seung Hui Cho had multiple interactions with the mental health department on campus, some for suicidal ideation, but yet his parents nor authorities were never notified. University officials stated privacy laws restricted them from sharing the information.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 07-30-2019 at 03:14 PM.

  16. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    "Likely" doesn't mean they were.


    So 16 cases over thirty years (about one every two years) in a population of 330 million (42 million on SSRIs). How many shootings occurred in that time? Were they put on meds because they were mentally stable and then became killers? Did they already have existing mental health issues?
    The cases where the shootings got a lot of media attention tend to make the list, because the ones that don't, well, we just don't know much of anything about them. The fact is about 90% of the cases that get media attention and the subject is actually explored and information is available, turns out they were on them.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  17. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Alternative School View Post
    The Ship is sinking because Trump is a rapist.
    Got proof?
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  18. #136
    All the assault allegations against Donald Trump, recapped

    PoliticsOct 14, 2016 5:33 PM EDT — Updated on Jun 21, 2019 2:01 PM EDTSixteen women have come forward with allegations against President Donald Trump, each accusing him of inappropriate conduct. The most recent, from writer and columnist E. Jean Carroll, appeared in NY Magazine on Friday.
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...trump-recapped

    The women’s charges range from unwanted touches and aggressive, sudden kissing to the latest accusation against Trump — that he attacked a woman in a dressing room and forced his penis inside her. Donald Trump, his campaign and the Trump White House have insisted all of the stories are fabricated and politically motivated.
    So far:

    • 16 women have accused Donald Trump of various forms of sexual assault, including one accusation of rape and another, in which the accuser has not used the word “rape” but whose description meets the legal definition of rape. This figure includes standing accusations from both before and after the release of the Access Hollywood tape on October 7, 2016.
    • Four other women have publicly said Mr. Trump walked in on them and other pageant contestants while they were undressing. Buzzfeed reports another three women have confirmed the pageant stories but did not want their names used.
    • The alleged incidents range from the early 1980s to 2013.
    • Donald Trump has adamantly denied all of the stories and accuses the women of being political tools who were trying to undermine either his candidacy or presidency.

    SEXUAL ASSAULT ACCUSATIONS
    Here is what we know about the accusations of assault against Donald Trump, including the date of the alleged assault. These are standing allegations of assault that have not been disavowed by the alleged victim.
    Kristin Anderson – Early 1990s. Story in the Washington Post on October 14, 2016.
    Anderson says she was in a Manhattan bar with friends when the person next to her reached up her skirt and touched her vagina through her underwear. She says she turned and recognized the person as Donald Trump.

    E. Jean Carroll – late 1995 or early 1996. Story in NY Magazine June 21 and expected in upcoming book.
    Carroll describes running into Trump in a department store, where she says he recognized her for her widely-read advice column. Carroll says they went into a dressing room after Trump asked for her advice on a present – lingerie – for another woman. Inside, she alleges that he shoved her against a wall, “forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me.” A senior White House official issued a statement to NY Magazine calling the accusation, “a completely false and unrealistic story.”

    Rachel Crooks – 2005. Story in The New York Times on October 12, 2016.
    A 22-year-old receptionist at the time, Crooks said Trump gave her an unwanted kiss on the mouth after meeting him in 2005.

    “Jane Doe” aka “Katie Johnson” – 1994. Lawsuit filed June 2016, refiled October 2016 as reported by Buzzfeed and others, then dropped in November 2016.
    Jane Doe is an unnamed plaintiff, who has also gone by “Katie Johnson” in legal papers. She claims she was repeatedly raped by Trump and Jeffery Epstein at Epstein’s New York City apartment in 1994, when she was 13 years old. A witness, also given a pseudonym — “Tiffany Doe” — said she recruited “Jane Doe” and others. Doe, using the name “Johnson,” gave an interview to the Daily Mail in which she said she did not know who Trump was at the time of the alleged attack but identified him later when she saw him on television. It is not known why she withdrew the lawsuit. She has not spoken publicly or withdrawn her rape allegation since then.

    Jessica Drake – 2006. Story made public at a news conference October 22, 2016.
    While working as an adult film actress, Drake says Trump invited her to the room where he was staying in Lake Tahoe. In the room, she says he grabbed, hugged and kissed her and two other women who accompanied her without permission. Later, she alleges that Trump called her and pressed her to return to his room, offering $10,000 at one point. Drake says she declined.

    Jill Harth – 1992-1993. Story in the The New York Times on October 9, 2016.
    A Florida businesswoman who partnered with Trump and later dated him. Harth alleged that he groped her under the table at dinner with her boyfriend then repeatedly got her alone, and it would turn into a “wrestling match.” She sued Trump for breach of contract, sexual harassment and at one point attempted rape. She settled and then in 1998 dated Trump.

    Cathy Heller – 1997. Story in the Guardian on October 15, 2016.
    At a Mother’s Day brunch for Mar-A-Lago club members’ families in 1997, Heller alleges that when she was introduced to Trump, he grabbed her and tried to kiss her on the lips. Heller says she leaned back to avoid him and then he kissed her on the side of her mouth. CNN has reported Heller is a Democratic donor.

    Ninni Laaksonen – 2006. Former Miss Finland. Story in Ilta-Sonomat on October 27, 2016. In English in the Telegraph.
    Laaksonen told Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sonomat that Trump “squeezed her butt” as she and other pageant contestants stood next to him for a publicity photo, ahead of an appearance on The Letterman Show.

    Jessica Leeds – Early 1980s. Story in The New York Times on October 12, 2016.
    Leeds says she sat next to Trump in first class on an airplane and that he kissed her, groped her chest and reached up her skirt, leading her to move back to coach. “He was like an octopus,” she told The New York Times. In a NY Post report published October 14, 2016, a British man whose interview was arranged by the Trump campaign said that he was on the flight, that Leeds’ account is false and he remembers Leeds acting inappropriately.

    Mindy McGillivray – Jan. 24, 2003. Story in Palm Beach Post on October 12, 2016.
    Working as an assistant to photographers at Mar-a-Lago in 2003, McGillivray charges that Trump nudged or grabbed her from behind.

    Jennifer Murphy – 2004. Story in Grazia on October 12, 2016.
    A former Miss USA and “The Apprentice” contestant, Grazia says that Trump kissed her on the lips after walking her to the elevators following a meeting in New York, which he said was to discuss a possible job.

    Cassandra Searles – 2013. Made story public in Facebook post in early 2016.
    Miss Washington 2013, Searles wrote on Facebook, “He probably doesn’t want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my ass and invited me to his hotel room.”

    Natasha Stoynoff – December 2005. Story on People.com on October 12, 2016.
    Stoynoff was a celebrity reporter covering Trump for People Magazine. She alleges that Trump assaulted her while she was at Mar-a-Lago interviewing him and Melania Trump for a story about their one-year anniversary. She alleges Trump took her to a private room, pushed her against the wall and aggressively kissed her. Stoynoff also says a staffer told her Trump was waiting for her the next day at a massage appointment.

    Temple Taggart McDowell – 1997. Story in New York Times May 14, 2016.
    McDowell, who was Miss Utah USA 1997, charges that Trump suddenly kissed her without her consent on two separate occasions.

    Karena Virginia – 1998. Story made public at a news conference October 20, 2016.
    Virginia says that while she was waiting for a ride following the U.S Open tennis tournament, Trump walked up to her, grabbed her arm and touched her breast.

    Summer Zervos – 2007. Story made public in a news conference October 14, 2016.
    A former contestant on “The Apprentice,” Zervos alleges that Trump told her he wanted to discuss a possible job, but alone in a Beverly Hills Hotel bungalow, grabbed her breasts, kissed her and tried to lead her into a bedroom.

    PAGEANT CONTESTANTS ALLEGING TRUMP WALKED IN WHILE THEY WERE DRESSING
    Mariah Billado – 1997 Miss Vermont Teen. Story in Buzzfeed on October 12, 2016.
    Tasha Dixon – 2001 Miss Arizona. Story in CBSLA on October 11, 2016.
    Victoria Hughes – 1997 Miss New Mexico Teen. Story in Buzzfeed on October 13, 2016.
    Bridget Sullivan – 2000 Miss New Hampshire. Story in Buzzfeed May 18, 2016.
    Buzzfeed on October 12, 2016 reported that three other anonymous sources from 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant confirmed Billado and Hughes’ story.
    OTHER ALLEGATIONS OF IMPROPER CONDUCT
    Lisa Boyne – Summer 1996. Story in The Huffington Post on October 13, 2016.
    Boyne alleges that at a group dinner, Trump and other men forced women to walk over the table to leave their seats and that Trump looked up the women’s skirts and commented on their underwear and genitalia.

    Ivana Trump – 1989. Accusations in early 1990s court deposition, made public in The Daily Beast on July 27, 2015. Ivana disavowed stories of rape in a 1993 book and further commented on July 28, 2015.
    The mother of three children with Trump, Ivana Trump charges that Trump “violated their bond of love” in a 1989 incident, which she has not described any further in public. She wrote that her reported words charging her ex-husband with “rape” in a deposition were figurative, that stories about a rape are “totally without merit” and she “ did not mean rape in the “criminal sense.” She is under a confidentiality agreement and cannot discuss her marriage publicly without approval from Donald Trump.




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  20. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Alternative School View Post
    All the assault allegations against Donald Trump, recapped

    PoliticsOct 14, 2016 5:33 PM EDT — Updated on Jun 21, 2019 2:01 PM EDTSixteen women have come forward with allegations against President Donald Trump, each accusing him of inappropriate conduct. The most recent, from writer and columnist E. Jean Carroll, appeared in NY Magazine on Friday.
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...trump-recapped

    The women’s charges range from unwanted touches and aggressive, sudden kissing to the latest accusation against Trump — that he attacked a woman in a dressing room and forced his penis inside her. Donald Trump, his campaign and the Trump White House have insisted all of the stories are fabricated and politically motivated.
    So far:

    • 16 women have accused Donald Trump of various forms of sexual assault, including one accusation of rape and another, in which the accuser has not used the word “rape” but whose description meets the legal definition of rape. This figure includes standing accusations from both before and after the release of the Access Hollywood tape on October 7, 2016.
    • Four other women have publicly said Mr. Trump walked in on them and other pageant contestants while they were undressing. Buzzfeed reports another three women have confirmed the pageant stories but did not want their names used.
    • The alleged incidents range from the early 1980s to 2013.
    • Donald Trump has adamantly denied all of the stories and accuses the women of being political tools who were trying to undermine either his candidacy or presidency.

    SEXUAL ASSAULT ACCUSATIONS
    Here is what we know about the accusations of assault against Donald Trump, including the date of the alleged assault. These are standing allegations of assault that have not been disavowed by the alleged victim.
    Kristin Anderson – Early 1990s. Story in the Washington Post on October 14, 2016.
    Anderson says she was in a Manhattan bar with friends when the person next to her reached up her skirt and touched her vagina through her underwear. She says she turned and recognized the person as Donald Trump.

    E. Jean Carroll – late 1995 or early 1996. Story in NY Magazine June 21 and expected in upcoming book.
    Carroll describes running into Trump in a department store, where she says he recognized her for her widely-read advice column. Carroll says they went into a dressing room after Trump asked for her advice on a present – lingerie – for another woman. Inside, she alleges that he shoved her against a wall, “forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me.” A senior White House official issued a statement to NY Magazine calling the accusation, “a completely false and unrealistic story.”

    Rachel Crooks – 2005. Story in The New York Times on October 12, 2016.
    A 22-year-old receptionist at the time, Crooks said Trump gave her an unwanted kiss on the mouth after meeting him in 2005.

    “Jane Doe” aka “Katie Johnson” – 1994. Lawsuit filed June 2016, refiled October 2016 as reported by Buzzfeed and others, then dropped in November 2016.
    Jane Doe is an unnamed plaintiff, who has also gone by “Katie Johnson” in legal papers. She claims she was repeatedly raped by Trump and Jeffery Epstein at Epstein’s New York City apartment in 1994, when she was 13 years old. A witness, also given a pseudonym — “Tiffany Doe” — said she recruited “Jane Doe” and others. Doe, using the name “Johnson,” gave an interview to the Daily Mail in which she said she did not know who Trump was at the time of the alleged attack but identified him later when she saw him on television. It is not known why she withdrew the lawsuit. She has not spoken publicly or withdrawn her rape allegation since then.

    Jessica Drake – 2006. Story made public at a news conference October 22, 2016.
    While working as an adult film actress, Drake says Trump invited her to the room where he was staying in Lake Tahoe. In the room, she says he grabbed, hugged and kissed her and two other women who accompanied her without permission. Later, she alleges that Trump called her and pressed her to return to his room, offering $10,000 at one point. Drake says she declined.

    Jill Harth – 1992-1993. Story in the The New York Times on October 9, 2016.
    A Florida businesswoman who partnered with Trump and later dated him. Harth alleged that he groped her under the table at dinner with her boyfriend then repeatedly got her alone, and it would turn into a “wrestling match.” She sued Trump for breach of contract, sexual harassment and at one point attempted rape. She settled and then in 1998 dated Trump.

    Cathy Heller – 1997. Story in the Guardian on October 15, 2016.
    At a Mother’s Day brunch for Mar-A-Lago club members’ families in 1997, Heller alleges that when she was introduced to Trump, he grabbed her and tried to kiss her on the lips. Heller says she leaned back to avoid him and then he kissed her on the side of her mouth. CNN has reported Heller is a Democratic donor.

    Ninni Laaksonen – 2006. Former Miss Finland. Story in Ilta-Sonomat on October 27, 2016. In English in the Telegraph.
    Laaksonen told Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sonomat that Trump “squeezed her butt” as she and other pageant contestants stood next to him for a publicity photo, ahead of an appearance on The Letterman Show.

    Jessica Leeds – Early 1980s. Story in The New York Times on October 12, 2016.
    Leeds says she sat next to Trump in first class on an airplane and that he kissed her, groped her chest and reached up her skirt, leading her to move back to coach. “He was like an octopus,” she told The New York Times. In a NY Post report published October 14, 2016, a British man whose interview was arranged by the Trump campaign said that he was on the flight, that Leeds’ account is false and he remembers Leeds acting inappropriately.

    Mindy McGillivray – Jan. 24, 2003. Story in Palm Beach Post on October 12, 2016.
    Working as an assistant to photographers at Mar-a-Lago in 2003, McGillivray charges that Trump nudged or grabbed her from behind.

    Jennifer Murphy – 2004. Story in Grazia on October 12, 2016.
    A former Miss USA and “The Apprentice” contestant, Grazia says that Trump kissed her on the lips after walking her to the elevators following a meeting in New York, which he said was to discuss a possible job.

    Cassandra Searles – 2013. Made story public in Facebook post in early 2016.
    Miss Washington 2013, Searles wrote on Facebook, “He probably doesn’t want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my ass and invited me to his hotel room.”

    Natasha Stoynoff – December 2005. Story on People.com on October 12, 2016.
    Stoynoff was a celebrity reporter covering Trump for People Magazine. She alleges that Trump assaulted her while she was at Mar-a-Lago interviewing him and Melania Trump for a story about their one-year anniversary. She alleges Trump took her to a private room, pushed her against the wall and aggressively kissed her. Stoynoff also says a staffer told her Trump was waiting for her the next day at a massage appointment.

    Temple Taggart McDowell – 1997. Story in New York Times May 14, 2016.
    McDowell, who was Miss Utah USA 1997, charges that Trump suddenly kissed her without her consent on two separate occasions.

    Karena Virginia – 1998. Story made public at a news conference October 20, 2016.
    Virginia says that while she was waiting for a ride following the U.S Open tennis tournament, Trump walked up to her, grabbed her arm and touched her breast.

    Summer Zervos – 2007. Story made public in a news conference October 14, 2016.
    A former contestant on “The Apprentice,” Zervos alleges that Trump told her he wanted to discuss a possible job, but alone in a Beverly Hills Hotel bungalow, grabbed her breasts, kissed her and tried to lead her into a bedroom.

    PAGEANT CONTESTANTS ALLEGING TRUMP WALKED IN WHILE THEY WERE DRESSING
    Mariah Billado – 1997 Miss Vermont Teen. Story in Buzzfeed on October 12, 2016.
    Tasha Dixon – 2001 Miss Arizona. Story in CBSLA on October 11, 2016.
    Victoria Hughes – 1997 Miss New Mexico Teen. Story in Buzzfeed on October 13, 2016.
    Bridget Sullivan – 2000 Miss New Hampshire. Story in Buzzfeed May 18, 2016.
    Buzzfeed on October 12, 2016 reported that three other anonymous sources from 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant confirmed Billado and Hughes’ story.
    OTHER ALLEGATIONS OF IMPROPER CONDUCT
    Lisa Boyne – Summer 1996. Story in The Huffington Post on October 13, 2016.
    Boyne alleges that at a group dinner, Trump and other men forced women to walk over the table to leave their seats and that Trump looked up the women’s skirts and commented on their underwear and genitalia.

    Ivana Trump – 1989. Accusations in early 1990s court deposition, made public in The Daily Beast on July 27, 2015. Ivana disavowed stories of rape in a 1993 book and further commented on July 28, 2015.
    The mother of three children with Trump, Ivana Trump charges that Trump “violated their bond of love” in a 1989 incident, which she has not described any further in public. She wrote that her reported words charging her ex-husband with “rape” in a deposition were figurative, that stories about a rape are “totally without merit” and she “ did not mean rape in the “criminal sense.” She is under a confidentiality agreement and cannot discuss her marriage publicly without approval from Donald Trump.




    Left: Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump speaks at a campaign rally in Greensboro, North Carolina. Photo by Mike Segar/ReutersGo Deeper







    You forgot this complaint, of which there was video evidence:

    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    What percent of people who take SSRIs become killers?
    What are the chances that a person taking these drugs is more violent than not taking them? Higher, according to this research.


    Most violent acts don't result in homicide, but homicide is the last and extreme placement on the violence continuum.

    If more guys violently beat their wives, then I might expect to see more black eyes. If more guys takes these SSRIs, then it's not unreasonable to expect and witness more extreme violent acts.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

  22. #139
    You can't blame Trump for not going up against that as a private citizen.
    Yeah I can. If you see child molestation and don't report it you belong in prison.

  23. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Alternative School View Post
    Yeah I can. If you see child molestation and don't report it you belong in prison.
    That's not what happened.
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  24. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Alternative School View Post
    All the assault allegations against Donald Trump, recapped
    #BelieveAllWomen



    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  25. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Alternative School View Post
    Yeah I can. If you see child molestation and don't report it you belong in prison.
    Uh, ya, first he didn't "see" it, he just knew it was going on. If he "saw" it then he would have been implicated, and he wasn't trying to implicate himself.

    If he reported it, nothing would have happened. Because Satanic pedophiles were in power.

    By becoming President and taking over the military and judiciary system from the Satanic Pedophiles, Trump can now exact justice upon them.

    So if you want the best outcome, Trump got it. If all you care about are technicalities and gotchas, then you're a troll.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  26. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Uh, ya, first he didn't "see" it, he just knew it was going on. If he "saw" it then he would have been implicated, and he wasn't trying to implicate himself.

    If he reported it, nothing would have happened. Because Satanic pedophiles were in power.

    By becoming President and taking over the military and judiciary system from the Satanic Pedophiles, Trump can now exact justice upon them.

    So if you want the best outcome, Trump got it. If all you care about are technicalities and gotchas, then you're a troll.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  27. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Seeing a video is not seeing something "first hand". I could post a video of my grandfather's basement and claim it was the pizza joint.



    Part of the quote. In the rest of the article you learn he was talking about the basement at Buck's Fishing and Camping- his other restaurant. That one does have a basement. Conspiracy supporters leave that detail off. How about some context for you instead of just carefully selected bits?




    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...751_story.html

    Article is from 2013- well before PizzaGate. It was asking different pizza places what sort of tomatoes they prefer to make their sauces from.

    As Paul Harvey used to say, "And now you know the rest of the story!"
    The rest of the story is that Buck's Fishing and Camping is two doors down, and in the same BUILDING as Comet Pizza.. So they BOTH have access to the basement(s), aka tunnels that connect the whole block and more.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bu...!4d-77.0698963


    Buck’s Fishing & Camping — which he had opened roughly two years before, and two doors down Connecticut Avenue.


    https://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/...mes-alefantis/

    Last edited by dannno; 08-02-2019 at 10:53 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  29. #145
    The electrical outages in California in the last week or so were white hat operations to get rid of electrical noise, then use LIDAR to find all of the deep state tunnels. They have rescued over 10,000 children so far from the tunnels.

    The assassination the deep state planned against Trump on 10/17 was foiled.

    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  30. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The electrical outages in California in the last week or so were white hat operations to get rid of electrical noise, then use LIDAR to find all of the deep state tunnels. They have rescued over 10,000 children so far from the tunnels.

    The assassination the deep state planned against Trump on 10/17 was foiled.

    Taking out the electric grid is also one of the few ways to take out enemy surveillance.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  31. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Taking out the electric grid is also one of the few ways to take out enemy surveillance.
    Actually, the power outages and fires are to drive people out of proposed Agenda 2030 off-limits zones in NorCal.

    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  32. #148
    6.6mg earthquake today offshore at shallow depth of 13km to the east of Bronfman’s private island near Fiji. This island is the Epstein Island of the Pacific. Notice the tunnel friendly terrain and tennis court. Looks familiar? pic.twitter.com/GbbBcetP0C
    — 3Days3Nights (@3Days3Nights) November 5, 2019
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  33. #149
    The LARP continues
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  34. #150
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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