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Thread: Are Libertarians the New Neocons?

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    FreeRepubilc.com is bad. I've got 2 strikes for posting Ron/Rand articles in the last week. Most of them are thirsty for war and their admins squelch any opposition.
    Soleimani was bad, mkay? Any other argument or consideration is anti-American and anti-libertarian, mkay?
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Soleimani was bad, mkay? Any other argument or consideration is anti-American and anti-libertarian, mkay?
    I think that's the view taken by most in the GOP. I think FreeRepublic reflects the party generally. Lots of whoopping for war, death and destruction. We're screwed. I don't think Rand can ever get the nomination in a party like that.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Soleimani was bad, mkay? Any other argument or consideration is anti-American and anti-libertarian, mkay?
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    I think that's the view taken by most in the GOP. I think FreeRepublic reflects the party generally. Lots of whoopping for war, death and destruction. We're screwed. I don't think Rand can ever get the nomination in a party like that.
    I see lots of people saying we should leave and come home on FreeRepublic, they just believe that the killing of Solly was correct.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I see lots of people saying we should leave and come home on FreeRepublic, they just believe that the killing of Solly was correct.
    They ban you if you post Ron/Rand articles. And you get lots of abuse.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I see lots of people saying we should leave and come home on FreeRepublic, they just believe that the killing of Solly was correct.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    They ban you if you post Ron/Rand articles. And you get lots of abuse.
    Ron Paul has rightly questioned the killing of General Soleimani.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Ron Paul has rightly questioned the killing of General Soleimani.
    I have RIGHTLY answered the questions about it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Nope


    A few neocons falsely may have claimed to be Libertarians ( Bill O'Really, Tucker Carlson etc).

    That said, neocon/globalist/foreign firster lobbies have been actively trying to recruit politicians from all sides including Libertarians but with exception of a few gullible, simple minded folks here and there, they are shunned.
    Notorious Neocoservative and social liberal Democrat Sheldon Adelson funded GOP-Neocon-Lite wing lately is trying to do same to legitimize their globalist interventionist agenda/Iran war push for cause of parasitic foreign-first lobbies but they are bound to fail. Bold leadership by likes of rookie Amash so far, others are also starting to see things through to stop hijacking of GOP by globalist neocons.

    NEXODUS: Neoconservatives from both parties joining GOP-Adelson (MAGA)

    #1 GOP Cash Bundler, Sheldon Adelson, Calls For US to Bomb Iran w/Nuclear Weapons
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Tucker is not a Neocon, more like a Paleocon as is Trump. The Koch's and CATO are not Libertarian. Libertarians are simply a useful tool for them. CATO is a Libertarian scam run by Neocons.
    Tucker has been good against the push for war with Iran. So has CATO. Trump, on the other hand, has shown his neocon-light colors.

    https://www.cato.org/research/foreig...ional-security

    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I have RIGHTLY answered the questions about it.
    BS.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Bump

    A mere 6 months later and McAdams looks like a genius.
    we just had another debate. i'm about to do up a poll with a focus on Bill Weld.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    FreeRepubilc.com is bad. I've got 2 strikes for posting Ron/Rand articles in the last week. Most of them are thirsty for war and their admins squelch any opposition.
    Lol. I was banned after 4 posts in 2008 for daring argue with them about Ron Paul
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    I think that's the view taken by most in the GOP. I think FreeRepublic reflects the party generally. Lots of whoopping for war, death and destruction. We're screwed. I don't think Rand can ever get the nomination in a party like that.
    What other party can he get the nomination in? With all due respect, if you know, stop holding out on us.

    Rand has transformed minds within the party. Yes, it is true, that public opinion can be fragile, and people tend to resort to following the leader, regardless of party D, R, or even L if it ever managed to get someone into a leadership position. I think Free Republic is a very LOUD portion of the party but like with liberals loudest does NOT mean largest.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 01-15-2020 at 02:11 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    What other party can he get the nomination in? With all due respect, if you know, stop holding out on us.

    Rand has transformed minds within the party. Yes, it is true, that public opinion can be fragile, and people tend to resort to following the leader, regardless of party D, R, or even L if it ever managed to get someone into a leadership position. I think Free Republic is a very LOUD portion of the party but like with liberals loudest does NOT mean largest.
    I think we should give up on Presidential politics and focus on getting Republican senators through the primary system and then in the election. Imagine 10 Rand Paul's in the US Senate. They could as a team vote down every piece of unconstitutional sh*t legislation and massive spending bills. They will have to change their ways. Also, its cheaper/easier to win a senate race than a damn presidential election...

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