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    If there is any truth from Alex regarding the alleged pressure from the intelligence agencies to drop the original Epstein case in 2008 which lead to the ridiculous plea deal, now would be a good time for Mr. Acosta to expand on that and explain exactly what happened, if it is seeking justice for the children and the families that he cares so much about.

    Will he ever? Doubtful. He'll just keep throwing us hints as to why he failed to correctly do his job, and that it is apparently fine and normal for those in the intelligence agencies to make these decisions for prosecutors. According to him, it's standard protocol, and we should just accept that and move on. He can, of course, prove me wrong.

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    There are now four of eleven cabinet level posts without somebody officially in charge.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48967419

    US Labour Secretary Alex Acosta resigns over Epstein case

    US Labour Secretary Alex Acosta is resigning amid criticism of his brokering of a plea deal for financier Jeffrey Epstein in a child sex case.

    Mr Acosta, a former Florida prosecutor, made the announcement from the White House lawn on Friday with President Donald Trump stood by his side.

    Democrats had called for him to quit over his handling of the Epstein case.

    Mr Acosta defended the secretly-negotiated plea deal in a news conference only two days ago.

    Mr Acosta was the US Attorney in Miami in 2008 when he oversaw a non-prosecution deal against Epstein which allowed Epstein to serve 13 months in jail - with much of that time spent on work release at his Palm Beach office. Epstein's conduct has come into sharper focus since he was arrested and charged on Monday with sex trafficking underage girls.

    Mr Trump told reporters that he and Mr Acosta spoke on the phone earlier on Friday and that it was Mr Acosta's decision to step down.

    "This was him not me," Mr Trump said, adding that Mr Acosta was "a tremendous talent" who "went to Harvard" University. Earlier this week, Mr Trump told reporters that he felt badly for his labour secretary, but added that he did not know him personally before hiring him.

    Mr Acosta told reporters: "I do not think it is right and fair... to have Epstein as the focus rather than the incredible economy that we have today".

    But he added: "It would be selfish for me to stay in this position and continue talking about a case that's 12 years old."

    Patrick Pizzella, the current labour deputy secretary, will become acting secretary when Mr Acosta officially steps down in one week, Mr Trump said.

    On Wednesday, Alex Acosta gave a dispassionate, legalistic defence of his handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case, more than a decade ago. It wasn't enough to save his job. Given how quickly he departed after his performance, it wasn't even close.

    The former US attorney attempted to shift blame to state prosecutors and justify his decisions based on changing expectations in sex crimes cases. He never adequately explained why the circumstances at the time required that he offer such a lenient deal to Epstein or seal the damning details of the original indictment, instead of building a stronger case with further investigation.

    The Epstein case is a perfect storm of scandal and outrage. It mixes allegations of sex crimes with abuse of power and influence reaching into the highest corridors of US political and financial power.

    Now the toxic swirl has claimed its first high-profile name. Depending on how the story evolves, Mr Acosta may not be the last.

    With his departure, the number of temporary, "acting" Cabinet-level positions in the Trump administration now stands at four out of 11. The level of churn in his administration, whether through scandal, burn-out or presidential disfavour, is extraordinary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    There are now four of eleven cabinet level posts without somebody officially in charge.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48967419
    OMG. I hadn't even noticed.

    Good on Trump.

    Giving credit where credit is due.
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    This beer is to hoping he can somehow unfill the other seven positions as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
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    Acostarse
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    That was fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    OMG. I hadn't even noticed.

    Good on Trump.

    Giving credit where credit is due.
    Unfortunately, a department doesn't stop running just for lack of its chief PR officer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    That was fast.



    Unfortunately, a department doesn't stop running just for lack of its chief PR officer.
    They are not paying the salary... so, good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    OMG. I hadn't even noticed.

    Good on Trump.

    Giving credit where credit is due.
    Give Trump credit for what? you do know that those depts are still running and spending tax payers money right? Its just that they do not have the official rep in place.

    I am sure some people are going to come back and say that this is Trump somehow exposing the deep state pedophile ring by ousting one of their top lawyers. For me, I would actually wait for Trump to do something before giving him any credit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    That was fast.



    Unfortunately, a department doesn't stop running just for lack of its chief PR officer.
    Damn, you beat me to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    They are not paying the salary... so, good.
    Only ~4,999,999 more cabinet secretaries to fire to balance the budget!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    If there is any truth from Alex regarding the alleged pressure from the intelligence agencies to drop the original Epstein case in 2008 which lead (sic) to the ridiculous plea deal ...
    He wants to keep on breathing. Simple.

    What about a truthful, non-evasive explanation from trump as to why he hired this creep alex acosta in the first place?

    He could accomplish that in about five to ten normal English sentences.

    Or, perhaps he enjoys breathing, also?

    Further, how about an admission from trump that the entire system is riddled with murderous so-called pedophiles? Among many other even more dangerous criminals and traitors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Hilman View Post
    He wants to keep on breathing. Simple.

    What about a truthful, non-evasive explanation from trump as to why he hired this creep alex acosta in the first place?

    He could accomplish that in about five to ten normal English sentences.

    Or, perhaps he enjoys breathing, also?

    Further, how about an admission from trump that the entire system is riddled with murderous so-called pedophiles? Among many other even more dangerous criminals and traitors?
    The deep state would kill him if he explicitly exposed them.

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    Acostas gone. Now to get rid of the department he was in charge of.
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    Calvin Coolidge

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    All the best men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    All the best men.
    34DD chess is the name of the game. It's either he is the smartest president out there or the biggest conman with his supporters.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    If there is any truth from Alex regarding the alleged pressure from the intelligence agencies to drop the original Epstein case in 2008 which lead to the ridiculous plea deal, now would be a good time for Mr. Acosta to expand on that and explain exactly what happened, if it is seeking justice for the children and the families that he cares so much about.

    Will he ever? Doubtful. He'll just keep throwing us hints as to why he failed to correctly do his job, and that it is apparently fine and normal for those in the intelligence agencies to make these decisions for prosecutors. According to him, it's standard protocol, and we should just accept that and move on. He can, of course, prove me wrong.
    If he doesn't spill his guts then he needs to end up behind bars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump came from the business world, don't tell me he could not have hired people from that world to help him run Washington. The guy from HUD is not a politician, he can do the same for other dept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Trump came from the business world, don't tell me he could not have hired people from that world to help him run Washington. The guy from HUD is not a politician, he can do the same for other dept.
    You mean like Michael Cohen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Trump came from the business world, don't tell me he could not have hired people from that world to help him run Washington. The guy from HUD is not a politician, he can do the same for other dept.
    At that level they are all part of the swamp too.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    If there is any truth from Alex regarding the alleged pressure from the intelligence agencies to drop the original Epstein case in 2008 which lead to the ridiculous plea deal, now would be a good time for Mr. Acosta to expand on that and explain exactly what happened, if it is seeking justice for the children and the families that he cares so much about.

    Will he ever? Doubtful. He'll just keep throwing us hints as to why he failed to correctly do his job, and that it is apparently fine and normal for those in the intelligence agencies to make these decisions for prosecutors. According to him, it's standard protocol, and we should just accept that and move on. He can, of course, prove me wrong.
    Would be nice if Alex spilled his guts. But that’s not likely to happen. They probably have video of him too. And if there was a hint he would reveal anything, he would commit suicide with two gun shots to the back of the head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    You mean like Michael Cohen?
    The slow talking, black neurologist, he also ran for president. He was no politician before he was appointed and from what I can tell, he hasn't been involved in any scandals talkless of a pedophile one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    At that level they are all part of the swamp too.
    Excuses excuses, he should have told us all that he would end up nominating mostly swamp creatures to his cabinet during the campaign.



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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Excuses excuses, he should have told us all that he would end up nominating mostly swamp creatures to his cabinet during the campaign.
    Results are what matters.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Only ~4,999,999 more cabinet secretaries to fire to balance the budget!
    You are right. Four salaries mean nothing. Might as well fill the positions.

    What's a half of a million dollars, anyways?

    The peasants ought not mind.

    ETA: Half a million dollars, annually that is, and the half of million guesstimate is conservative considering various hiring package options.

    Why I bet these unfilled blattodea might scrape off maybe a million or more after a year's done.
    Last edited by kcchiefs6465; 07-13-2019 at 11:53 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
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    Several people have proposed the theory that Trump hired Acosta to bait the media into covering the Epstein story thinking they could hurt Trump with it.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    You are right. Four salaries mean nothing. Might as well fill the positions.

    What's a half of a million dollars, anyways?

    The peasants ought not mind.

    ETA: Half a million dollars, annually that is, and the half of million guesstimate is conservative considering various hiring package options.

    Why I bet these unfilled blattodea might scrape off maybe a million or more after a year's done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Would be nice if Alex spilled his guts. But that’s not likely to happen. They probably have video of him too. And if there was a hint he would reveal anything, he would commit suicide with two gun shots to the back of the head.
    Oh, well then there’s that.

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    Roll Acosta of Love



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