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    MSP officer runs stop sign, hit by car, arrests other driver

    DETROIT (FOX 2) - A police officer in an unmarked SUV ran a stop sign before getting struck by a car on Wednesday.

    The crash happened at the corner of Livernois and Cadet Street in southwest Detroit. Video surveillance from a neighbor's house shows a Michigan State Police officer in a silver SUV ignoring a stop sign and driving through the intersection.

    That's when Carlos Martinez, driving a red car, collided with the side of the SUV, knocking it off the road.

    "All he kept saying was 'you hit a cop, you hit a cop, you hit a cop,' and at no moment say 'how are you, are you okay,'" said Maria Martinez, Carlos's mother. "No, they just handcuffed him like a criminal."

    After the two cars collided, the video shows an officer exit the SUV and order Martinez onto the ground. Then they handcuffed him.

    "He told him call my parents, call my mother," Martinez said of her son. "The police officer say 'you're 27 years old, you're old enough, you don't need no parents and plus you don't have no rights right now."

    Maria said her son is a U.S. citizen.

    "He has no criminal history. He's not a criminal, he's never been in gangs," she said. "You don't treat people like that. We're human beings."

    Both drivers, as well as a passenger in the officer's SUV, had minor injuries. Carlos has scratches and bruises. The police officer driving was treated for a broken rib and collar bone. His passenger was transported, evaluated and released for minor injuries.

    FOX 2 reached out to the Michigan State Police, but MSP said they would not comment on the incident, stating the entire crash is under investigation.

    "The grey car was in the wrong. They didn't stop," said one witness. "Unfortunately, it was the police but they were in the wrong."

    Maria is still trying to get information from the police. She said MSP has Carlos's license and his phone.

    "When I asked the cop to give me his supervisor's number, so I could call and get my son's items back, he didn't want to give me no information."

    MSP said Thursday morning the driver had been released to a local hospital and has not been charged.

    http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/loca...s-other-driver
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    I bet they'll charge him with speeding/reckless driving.
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    For @Suzaminal :

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    Subject... citizen... what’s the difference in this day and age.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

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    I wonder who the passenger in the cop car was...

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    I wonder how unmarked police vehicles are even legal. If someone in plain clothes tells you to put your hands in the air are you supposed to do that too?
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    I wonder how unmarked police vehicles are even legal. If someone in plain clothes tells you to put your hands in the air are you supposed to do that too?
    Yep. I could see a Mexican standoff happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    For @Suzaminal :

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    hahahaha
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