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    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


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  5. #454
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The comments about Hillary with Trever Noah are interesting.

  6. #455
    A French investigation into Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged sex network has been criticized for its slow progress by women who say an associate of the disgraced financier raped and sexually assaulted them in France, claims that have raised questions over whether their allegations are again being "swept under the rug."
    The women’s concerns stem from investigators’ apparent limited efforts in tracking down other witnesses against Jean-Luc Brunel, a mysterious French modeling agent who allegedly procured women, some of them minors, for sex with Epstein and others.


    They said police have only issued one public appeal urging witnesses to come forward. The message, posted on Sept. 11 to Twitter and Facebook and only in French, might not have reached people who don’t belong to those social networks or follow the police feeds, according to the women.
    “I’m disappointed,” Thysia Huisman told The Associated Press. “There must be more victims, but you have to encourage them to come forward.”
    Huisman, a former model who is among a dozen people who have so far given evidence for the probe, told police she was drugged and raped in 1991 at age 18 by Brunel, who allegedly lured women with promises of modeling work.
    Anne-Claire Le Jeune, a lawyer for Huisman and two other women, said she believes police may not have been given all the tools they need to chase the investigation.
    “As time passes, I realize that the means really aren’t being deployed,” Le Jeune said. “There is a blockage. There is something dysfunctional.”

    More at: https://www.foxnews.com/world/jeffre...ictims-stalled
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  9. #457
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Prince Andrew has now denied ever meeting 17 year old Virginia Roberts, as well as denying having sex with her, despite the photograph of him with Virginia with his arm around her bare midrif while Ghislaine Maxell lurks in the background. Prince Andrew bizarrely claims he was at a “pizza party” with his daughter that night as his alibi for why he could not have met or raped Virignia Roberts.
    we all know about Pizzagate, and we all know that Epstein is basically considered to be the living proof that Pizzagate is real. so why would Prince Andrew pour gasoline onto the fire by mentioning “pizza” at all in reference to his own involvement with Epstein’s underage rape blackmail ring? obviously Prince Andrew is guilty as sin and is lying, but why did he have to slap us in the face by mentioning “pizza”?
    i think i know why.
    remember from a few months ago when Boris Johnson gave a bizarre statement about his hobby being making model buses. Boris’ statement made no sense, but it has been claimed that Boris was intentionally “Google Blasting” himself, knowing his statement about making model buses would dominate the ranks in search engine results, and push down the search results about Boris Johnson’s older embarassing gaff from 2016 where he had a campaign bus painted with a slogan claiming the money saved from Brexit should go to fund the National Health Service.
    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/bori...el-google-news
    https://gizmodo.com/did-boris-johnso...lat-1835903361
    could Prince Andrew be doing the same thing and Google Blasting himself by claiming he was at a pizza party? now when Normies search for “prince andrew pizza”, they won’t see hundreds of links to pages and forums and blogs about Pizzagate, but instead those pages will be pushed down in rank, and the “more credible” and “official” news sites and tabloids about Prince Andrew’s pizza party alibi will be ranked at the top.


    More at: https://www.cryptogon.com/?p=56506
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  10. #458
    Shortly after Jeffrey Epstein's August death in a Manhattan detention facility, a shadowy figure claiming to have set up encrypted servers for the convicted sex offender told several attorneys and the New York Times he had a vast archive of incriminating evidence against powerful men stored on overseas servers, including several years worth of the financier's communications and financial records which allegedly showed he had vast amounts of Bitcoin and cash in the Middle East and Bangkok, and hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of gold, silver and diamonds.

    Going by the pseudonym Patrick Kessler, self-described 'hacker' said he had "thousands of hours of footage from hidden cameras" from Epstein's multiple properties, which included former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, lawyer Alan Dershowitz, and Prince Andrew, along with three billionaires and a prominent CEO, according to the Times.
    It has been long speculated that Epstein recorded his high-profile guests as part of an international blackmail operation.

    Armed with nothing more than blurry photos of what he claimed were high-profile individuals in compromising situations, Kessler approached lawyers representing several Epstein accusers, John Pottinger and David Boies - the former of whom suggested that billionaire Sheldon Adelson - an ally of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu - might pay for the alleged footage of Barak.

    According to excerpts viewed by The Times, Mr. Pottinger and Kessler discussed a plan to disseminate some of the informant’s materials — starting with the supposed footage of Mr. Barak. The Israeli election was barely a week away, and Mr. Barak was challenging Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The purported images of Mr. Barak might be able to sway the election — and fetch a high price. -New York Times.
    After several weeks, the attorneys invited the New York Times to speak with Kessler in mid-September. Then things got even more unbelievable. Following a mid-September meeting with The Times in the Boies Schiller offices, Kessler went rogue - contacting the paper and accusing Boies and Pottinger of an extortion plot against the subjects of said tapes.
    Barely an hour after the session ended, the Times reporters received an email from Kessler: “Are you free?” He said he wanted to meet — alone. “Tell no one else.”
    ...
    Kessler complained that Mr. Boies and Mr. Pottinger were more interested in making money than in exposing wrongdoers. He pulled out his phone, warned the reporters not to touch it, and showed more of what he had. There was a color photo of a bare-chested, gray-haired man with a slight smile. Kessler said it was a billionaire. He also showed blurry, black-and-white images of a dark-haired man receiving oral sex. He said it was a prominent C.E.O.
    "At one point, he showed what he said were classified C.I.A. documents," writes the Times.
    Weeks after the meeting, the lawyers struck a deal with the Times during the last Friday in September. They would send a team overseas to download Kessler's evidence from his servers (and had alerted the FBI and the US Attorney's Office in Manhattan of their intention to do so), and would then share all the evidence with the paper on the condition that they would have discretion over which men could be written about, and when.
    Separately, Kessler had arranged to give the Times his evidence using a convoluted series of steps. On the day the data was to be transmitted, Kessler canceled at the 11th hour, claiming 'a fire was burning' and he had to flee to Ukraine.
    In early October, Kessler said he was ready to produce the Epstein files. He told The Times that he had created duplicate versions of Mr. Epstein’s servers. He laid out detailed logistical plans for them to be shipped by boat to the United States and for one of his associates — a very short Icelandic man named Steven — to deliver them to The Times headquarters at 11 a.m. on Oct. 3.
    Kessler warned that he was erecting a maze of security systems. First, a Times employee would need to use a special thumb drive to access a proprietary communications system. Then Kessler’s colleague would transmit a code to decrypt the files. If his instructions weren’t followed precisely, Kessler said, the information would self-destruct.
    Specialists at The Times set up a number of “air-gapped” laptops — disconnected from the internet — in a windowless, padlocked meeting room. Reporters cleared their schedules to sift through thousands of hours of surveillance footage.
    On the morning of the scheduled delivery, Kessler sent a series of frantic texts. Disaster had struck. A fire was burning. The duplicate servers were destroyed. One of his team members was missing. He was fleeing to Kyiv.
    Except two hours later, Kessler contacted Pottinger and didn't mention any emergency. Instead, he asked Pottinger to formulate two schemes for prying up to $1 billion from potential targets with the footage which the Times suggested may have been a trap.
    Pottinger obliged, describing two options for capitalizing on the evidence. The first, a "standard model" for legal settlements, would include splitting the money among Epstein's victims, a charitable foundation, Kessler, and the lawyers - who would get up to 40%.
    In the second hypothetical, the lawyers would approached the high-profile men, convince them to hire them to ensure they wouldn't get sued, and then "make a contribution to a nonprofit as part of their retainer."
    Pottinger would effectively represent a victim, settle their case, and then represent the victim's alleged abuser - a legal, yet morally questionable practice for an attorney to engage in.
    Dershowitz and the weird recorded phone call

    In late September, Dershowitz's secretary related a message that Kessler wanted to speak with him about Boies - with whom Dershowitz has a long-running feud. Dershowitz recorded the call, during which Kessler said he no longer trusted Boies and Pottinger.
    "The problem is that they don’t want to move forward with any of these people legally," said Kessler, adding "They’re just interested in trying to settle and take a cut."
    “Who are these people that you have on videotape?” Mr. Dershowitz asked.
    “There’s a lot of people,” Kessler said, naming a few powerful men. He added, “There’s a long list of people that they want me to have that I don’t have.”
    “Who?” Mr. Dershowitz asked. “Did they ask about me?”
    “Of course they asked about you. You know that, sir.”
    “And you don’t have anything on me, right?”
    “I do not, no,” Kessler said.
    “Because I never, I never had sex with anybody,” Mr. Dershowitz said. Later in the call, he added, “I am completely clean. I was at Jeffrey’s house. I stayed there. But I didn’t have any sex with anybody.”
    As the Times asks, "what was the purpose of Kessler’s phone call? Why did he tell Mr. Dershowitz that he wasn’t on the supposed surveillance tapes, contradicting what he had said and showed to Mr. Boies, Mr. Pottinger and The Times? Did the call sound a little rehearsed?"
    Dershowitz told the Times he has no idea why Kessler called him.
    Holding out hope
    In a November 7 email, Boies told the Times "I still believe he is what he purported to be," adding "I have to evaluate people for my day job, and he seemed too genuine to be a fake, and I very much want him to be real."

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...hacker-emerges
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  11. #459
    Epstein isn't dead. The "dead Epstein" pics released were obvious photoshop jobs and not even good attempts. The purpose of the "Epstein didn't kill himself" meme is to deflect from that fact and present a false "choice" of how he died, suicide or murder, when the real story is that he didn't die at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Epstein isn't dead. The "dead Epstein" pics released were obvious photoshop jobs and not even good attempts. The purpose of the "Epstein didn't kill himself" meme is to deflect from that fact and present a false "choice" of how he died, suicide or murder, when the real story is that he didn't die at all.
    The statement that Epstein didn't kill himself does not say that he is dead.
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  13. #461
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Epstein isn't dead. The "dead Epstein" pics released were obvious photoshop jobs and not even good attempts. The purpose of the "Epstein didn't kill himself" meme is to deflect from that fact and present a false "choice" of how he died, suicide or murder, when the real story is that he didn't die at all.
    Epstein didn't kill himself is 100% compatible with Epstein is still alive.

    Epstein is currently in witness protection, and he is singing like a canary.
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  14. #462
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Epstein didn't kill himself is 100% compatible with Epstein is still alive.

    Epstein is currently in witness protection, and he is singing like a canary.
    The statement alone doesn't, you're right. But the result has been that every post or article about Epstein now implies or outright states that he was murdered and that is the false choice being presented.
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  15. #463
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post

    Epstein is currently in witness protection, and he is singing like a canary.
    A wonderful Fantasy,, but I seriously doubt it..

    Mel Gibson needs protection though. Hes Talking.

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  16. #464
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    A wonderful Fantasy,, but I seriously doubt it..

    Mel Gibson needs protection though. Hes Talking.
    Link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    A wonderful Fantasy,, but I seriously doubt it..

    Mel Gibson needs protection though. Hes Talking.
    https://prepareforchange.net/2018/01...blood-of-kids/
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  19. #466
    Corporate banker Thomas Bowers, who ran the U.S. division of private wealth management for Deutsche Bank AG, reportedly committed suicide last month at the age of 55 by hanging himself with a rope in his California residence.

    However, his extensive ties to deceased sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein Ė who also died from a mysterious suicide Ė has caused speculation about what the real cause of Bowersí death may be.
    Epstein moved millions of his personal wealth through Deutsche Bank before his death. He switched to Deutsche Bank in 2013 after his conviction for child sex crimes when even JP Morgan would no longer do business with him. Following investigations into civil cases exposing the extent of Epsteinís criminal network by the Miami Herald, Deutsche Bank finally began to close his accounts.

    ďDeutsche Bank is closely examining any business relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and we are absolutely committed to cooperating with all relevant authorities,Ē a spokesperson for the bank said.


    Former bank executive Mike Moore, who led a Citigroup divisionís anti-money laundering unit during a time when Citi was in bed with Epstein, commented on the nature of Epsteinís loans with the corporate lender.
    ďThe loans to Epstein were personal and commercial,Ē Moore said. ďThe Citi loans I can confirm were for more than $25 million. Some were secured, some were not.Ē
    According to sources that spoke with True Pundit, Epstein received similar loans from both Citigroup and Deutsche Bank, and it is not a coincidence that Bowers worked in the same role for both banks when Epstein was doing business with them. Bowers was chief of The Citi Private Bank, and led Citigroupís Global Markets and Wealth Management businesses before he made his way to Deutsche Bank.

    The FBI reportedly subpoenaed Deutsche Bank earlier this year for loans and accounts with ties to Epstein. Bowers was among the individuals who they hoped to interview about Epsteinís finances. They will never get the chance, and never get the answers they were seeking because of his convenient suicide.
    Even though Epstein allegedly refused to pay Citi back for the loans they gave him, Bowers continued to do business with him because of his elite connections. He also reportedly traveled to Epsteinís private island, Little St. James, and was a frequent visitor to Epsteinís lavish New York City home.

    More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/jeffre...led-a-suicide/
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  20. #467
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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  21. #468
    I heard a rumour that he didn't really kill himself.

  22. #469
    Twitter users have assembled an enormous map of Epstein's social connections

    Reminds me a bit of Nash's office in A Beautiful Mind. Hopefully, it will be of some use in holding the Establishment media accountable to stop spinning this story and trying to turn it into a "water under the bridge" narrative now that Epstein is dead. The Epstein/Maxwell network was enormous. They were doing a lot of illegal stuff and many of the wealthiest and most powerful people from all over the globe were involved.

    I don't buy the narrative that the public can't handle full disclosure, that it would "cause mayhem". I don't give a damn if Mother Theresa herself was involved, the names and detailed charges need to be fully disclosed and the manhunt needs to get underway. Millions or billions of eyes looking for the guilty will be far more effective in catching them and bringing them to justice than a few dozen special assignment detectives in some obscure FBI office. Stop treating this case with kid gloves. The truth hurts but sometimes pain is the only path to catharsis.

  23. #470
    Sun: Jeffrey Epstein co-pilot reveals paedo had ‘underage’ stewardesses dressed as ‘sexy nurses’ on private jet

    I'm not a fan of these click-bait articles and I have only posted this here to make the following points. The lapdog media is working overtime at full-tilt to spin this story into a narrative about a solitary billionaire pervert and maybe a few of his close, inner-circle buddies who happened to be rich and powerful but, otherwise, had only one real interest in common: underage girls. So, we will get really in-depth coverage of a creepy foam-mattress floor and underage girls in candy-striped adult wear, and so on. The true purpose of this titillating coverage is to intensify the focus onto Epstein alone and maybe a handful of his pervert friends. The idea is to show how opulently Epstein himself lived and use this focus to "radio jam" the public's interest in how he was able to pay for all of that opulence, that is, what purpose it served beyond his own gratification.

    I don't know how to put this but it is my view that we're on the verge of going "down the rabbit hole", in the truly mental aspect of that phrase. We're being led to believe that there are eyewitnesses just now coming out of the woodwork but this is obviously false since Epstein was already investigated, tried, jailed, etc. when he was first caught in the 2005-2008 era. Wiki says, "federal officials had ... identified 36 girls, some as young as 14 years old, whom Epstein had sexually abused" at that time. So now we're supposed to believe that all of these victims stepping forward to be interviewed are having their "MeToo" moment when, in fact, the justice system has known about what happened to them for more than a decade and did jack squat about it in terms of actually holding the perpetator(s) accountable.

    I've watched a flurry of news on this since Epstein's death and I can't remember who said it but it was to the effect that Epstein's 2008 deal is beyond belief, that nobody is rich enough to pull off a sweetheart deal like that, the federal government is more than capable of taking down a billionaire if they're guilty of mass sexual crimes as Epstein was. This is really the heart of the matter and it's where the focus needs to remain even as the media tries to spin this story to be all about Epstein in order to bury it with him. There's no way in hell that Epstein was abusing all these girls on his own. No amount of money could have allowed him to purchase his way out of the crimes that federal investigators knew he was guilty of (and didn't even bother bringing charges against him on). The entire weight of the federal justice system came to bear on him and he walked away with a literal slap on the wrist. From the more believable personal accounts and descriptions of Epstein, it sounds like he was not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree (except at doing the one thing he did best: grooming little girls for a life of prostitution). So, the "mastermind billionaire puppeteer" theory where Epstein hatched and implemented some devious plan to escape charges by getting dirt on cops, judges, etc. also doesn't work.

    The only explanation that actually makes sense is that Epstein was plugged into a much larger network that includes official intelligence agencies with the ability to turn the ship of State this way and that way. Did the dirt that Epstein was generating play a role in keeping the network protected? Doubtless. But no amount of money and no amount of criminal sex tapes could protect a network like this from being taken down if it did not have well-placed guardian angels at the highest official levels of the State -- that means intelligence agencies and the only boss they acknowledge... the sitting executive(s). Does any serious-minded adult believe that federal investigators came to know of 36 girls abused by Epstein, some as young as 14, and did not think to take the opportunity to penetrate the network and flip it into a honey-trap? And if they did "just walk away" from this once-in-a-generation opportunity, what kind of entity could possibly have persuaded them to do that? Does anyone really think the justice department is impressed with how much money or jets or islands a lone pedo billionaire has when they have the actual legal power to seize 100% of it?
    Last edited by ClaytonB; 12-08-2019 at 04:36 PM.

  24. #471
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Sun: Jeffrey Epstein co-pilot reveals paedo had ‘underage’ stewardesses dressed as ‘sexy nurses’ on private jet

    I'm not a fan of these click-bait articles and I have only posted this here to make the following points. The lapdog media is working overtime at full-tilt to spin this story into a narrative about a solitary billionaire pervert and maybe a few of his close, inner-circle buddies who happened to be rich and powerful but, otherwise, had only one real interest in common: underage girls. So, we will get really in-depth coverage of a creepy foam-mattress floor and underage girls in candy-striped adult wear, and so on. The true purpose of this titillating coverage is to intensify the focus onto Epstein alone and maybe a handful of his pervert friends. The idea is to show how opulently Epstein himself lived and use this focus to "radio jam" the public's interest in how he was able to pay for all of that opulence, that is, what purpose it served beyond his own gratification.

    I don't know how to put this but it is my view that we're on the verge of going "down the rabbit hole", in the truly mental aspect of that phrase. We're being led to believe that there are eyewitnesses just now coming out of the woodwork but this is obviously false since Epstein was already investigated, tried, jailed, etc. when he was first caught in the 2005-2008 era. Wiki says, "federal officials had ... identified 36 girls, some as young as 14 years old, whom Epstein had sexually abused" at that time. So now we're supposed to believe that all of these victims stepping forward to be interviewed are having their "MeToo" moment when, in fact, the justice system has known about what happened to them for more than a decade and did jack squat about it in terms of actually holding the perpetator(s) accountable.

    I've watched a flurry of news on this since Epstein's death and I can't remember who said it but it was to the effect that Epstein's 2008 deal is beyond belief, that nobody is rich enough to pull off a sweetheart deal like that, the federal government is more than capable of taking down a billionaire if they're guilty of mass sexual crimes as Epstein was. This is really the heart of the matter and it's where the focus needs to remain even as the media tries to spin this story to be all about Epstein in order to bury it with him. There's no way in hell that Epstein was abusing all these girls on his own. No amount of money could have allowed him to purchase his way out of the crimes that federal investigators knew he was guilty of (and didn't even bother bringing charges against him on). The entire weight of the federal justice system came to bear on him and he walked away with a literal slap on the wrist. From the more believable personal accounts and descriptions of Epstein, it sounds like he was not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree (except at doing the one thing he did best: grooming little girls for a life of prostitution). So, the "mastermind billionaire puppeteer" theory where Epstein hatched and implemented some devious plan to escape charges by getting dirt on cops, judges, etc. also doesn't work.

    The only explanation that actually makes sense is that Epstein was plugged into a much larger network that includes official intelligence agencies with the ability to turn the ship of State this way and that way. Did the dirt that Epstein was generating play a role in keeping the network protected? Doubtless. But no amount of money and no amount of criminal sex tapes could protect a network like this from being taken down if it did not have well-placed guardian angels at the highest official levels of the State -- that means intelligence agencies and the only boss they acknowledge... the sitting executive(s). Does any serious-minded adult believe that federal investigators came to know of 36 girls abused by Epstein, some as young as 14, and did not think to take the opportunity to penetrate the network and flip it into a honey-trap? And if they did "just walk away" from this once-in-a-generation opportunity, what kind of entity could possibly have persuaded them to do that? Does anyone really think the justice department is impressed with how much money or jets or islands a lone pedo billionaire has when they have the actual legal power to seize 100% of it?
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    I didn't know that The Sun employs mediums for communicating with the dead... interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    I hear that is a common symptom of Arkancide.

    She really means that she is contemplating committing suicide in an apparently impossible manner.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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