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    Boom.
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    Bam.
    It's like an earthquake in Hollywood.



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    Hitlery would have done this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Hitlery would have done this.
    I haven't seen any pictures from enhanced_deficit or devil21 about the Clintons and their pals hanging out with Eptein, or any mentions how many times Clinton flew with Epstein, so I guess that means Trump is the only one who has.

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    Dad was telling me yesterday now that they arrested Epstein again, they'll use him to get to the Clintons.
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  8. #36
    Epstein and Maxwell were often socialising (and recruiting girls) at Trump’s Mar-A-Lago (pictures of Trump and Epstein were completely blocked by internet “search” engines before the 2016 presidential election).
    In 2002, Trump said about his buddy Epstein:
    I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    *insert picture of Trump with Epstein*
    See Donald, Melania, Jeff and Ghislaine Maxwell, Mar-a-Lago, 12 February 2000.


    Ghislaine Maxwell that ran the child sex cult with Epstein has still not been charged for her involvement and continued her jet-set life.
    See Ghislaine Maxwell with media mogul - friend of Jacob Rothschild and Donald Trump’s daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner - Rupert Murdoch at the Fifth Important Dinner for Women hosted by Queen Rania Al Abdullah, Wendi Murdoch (Rupert’s ex-wife) and Indra Nooyi, New York, September 2010.



    The sweet deal with Epstein that sent him to prison for a total of 13 months, but "was let out on work release six days a week for up to 16 hours a day" (so only in for the night) was made with Alex Acosta.
    Acosta was rewarded by Trump for getting his buddy off the hook with a nice position as Secretary of Labor: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6456881

    According to federal judge Kenneth A. Marra, former Miami U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta, now Secretary of Labour, broke the law when he concealed a plea agreement from more than 30 underage victims who had been sexually abused by the buddy of Trump, Clinton and Prince Andrew, Jeffrey Epstein.

    Marra, in a 33-page opinion, said prosecutors not only violated the Crime Victims’ Rights Act by not informing the victims, but also misled the girls into believing that the FBI’s sex trafficking case against Epstein was still ongoing. When prosecutors had secretly already closed it after sealing the plea bargain from the public.
    For no good reason whatsoever Marra didn’t overturn Epstein’s plea deal, or issue an order resolving the case. He instead gave federal prosecutors 15 days to come up with a settlement between Epstein and the attorneys of his victims.

    Attorney Brad Edwards, who represents Courtney Wild said it’s ridiculous it took 11 years to litigate and blamed federal prosecutors for needlessly dragging it out when they could have found a solution way back in 2008: https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/sta...226577419.html


    In 2004, ID Models boss Zampolli was exposed as business partner of Jeffrey Epstein. Zampolli and Epstein unsuccessfully tried to buy the bankrupt Elite Model Management. It was none other than Zampolli that, according to the official story, introduced Donald Trump to nude model Melania Knauss in 1998.
    In late 2004, Trump invited Zampolli to work for him, with: “Paolo, you are too good for the fashion industry. You should come work with me”.
    In 2005, Zampolli flew with Donald Trump on his jet to attend his wedding to Melania at Mar-a-Lago in Florida, where he was introduced to Hillary Clinton by Huma Abedin, whom he knew from events in New York.

    Zampolli also met Bill Clinton “many, many, many” times. He called Bill’s former adviser Doug Band “Dougie” and was close to Ronald Burkle, the billionaire investor who was once a close friend and business partner of Bill Clinton: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6738618

    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    I haven't seen any pictures from enhanced_deficit or devil21 about the Clintons and their pals hanging out with Eptein, or any mentions how many times Clinton flew with Epstein, so I guess that means Trump is the only one who has.
    See Zampolli with his Brazilian model wife (much younger and taller) and UN ambassador of Grenada Amanda Ungaro-Zampolli, with Bill Clinton.


    See Ghislaine Maxwell at the 2010 wedding of Chelsea Clinton to a Goldman Sachs banker (Ivanka Trump’s brother-in-law, Josh Kushner, also worked at Goldman Sachs).



    “Katie Johnson” (not her real name) in federal lawsuits accused Donald Trump and his billionaire friend Jeffrey Epstein, of raping her when she was only 13 in New York City in 1994. “Katie” alleged also that the two men raped the 12-year old girl "Maria".


    “Katie Johnson” seems to be completely missing ever since her attorney dropped the law suit against Donald Trump in October 2016.
    Our wonderful media have forgotten all about "Katie".

    In the following 29 minute video, starting at 21:30 "Katie" tells about the rape: https://vimeo.com/176181706

    Here is a collection of court documents of “Katie Johnson” vs. Trump and Epstein: http://thememoryhole2.org/blog/doe-v-trump

    This includes a description of the 4 occasions that the 13-year-old “Katie” engaged in sexual activities with Trump: http://thememoryhole2.org/s/4-Compla...ected-zahs.pdf

    Here’s the testimony by “Tiffany Doe”, who testified that she witnessed all 4 sexual encounters between “Katie” and Donald Trump: http://thememoryhole2.org/s/4-2-Tiff...eclaration.pdf
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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisette.../#6e1b63425ac9

    n its 27-page decision, the court cited the public’s right to access the case information outweighed the privacy of certain individuals, “including numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well‐known Prime Minister, and other world leaders.”
    Virginia Guiffre (now Roberts) filed the lawsuit against Ghislane Maxwell, alleging that she had used her as part of a sex trafficking network of underage girls to Epstein and a number of his famous friends, including his lawyer Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew. Both men denied the accusations.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    I haven't seen any pictures from enhanced_deficit or devil21 about the Clintons and their pals hanging out with Eptein, or any mentions how many times Clinton flew with Epstein, so I guess that means Trump is the only one who has.
    First, if you think I've never posted anything about Epstein and Clinton then you've not been paying attention over my years of posting here. Second, everyone knows about Clinton and Epstein by now and no one defends it so what's the point of still posting about it? The left just acts like it doesn't exist. You guys however twist yourselves up trying to deflect from what is plainly obvious to many of us who have researched into this topic and aren't still mesmerized by the left/right false choice...Trump was also involved in that mess.

    Epstein type ops is how Mossad gets blackmail material to exert control/coerce performance from those who are put into (publicly viewable) positions of power. If Trump got an attack of conscience and dared to go off-script, his material being released would ensure his demise. The truth is that most of the "faces" are expendable.
    Last edited by devil21; 07-07-2019 at 10:44 AM.
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    Epstein and Maxwell were often socialising (and recruiting girls) at Trump’s Mar-A-Lago (pictures of Trump and Epstein were completely blocked by internet “search” engines before the 2016 presidential election).
    In 2002, Trump said about his buddy Epstein:

    See Donald, Melania, Jeff and Ghislaine Maxwell, Mar-a-Lago, 12 February 2000.


    Ghislaine Maxwell that ran the child sex cult with Epstein has still not been charged for her involvement and continued her jet-set life.
    See Ghislaine Maxwell with media mogul - friend of Jacob Rothschild and Donald Trump’s daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner - Rupert Murdoch at the Fifth Important Dinner for Women hosted by Queen Rania Al Abdullah, Wendi Murdoch (Rupert’s ex-wife) and Indra Nooyi, New York, September 2010.



    The sweet deal with Epstein that sent him to prison for a total of 13 months, but "was let out on work release six days a week for up to 16 hours a day" (so only in for the night) was made with Alex Acosta.
    Acosta was rewarded by Trump for getting his buddy off the hook with a nice position as Secretary of Labor: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6456881

    According to federal judge Kenneth A. Marra, former Miami U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta, now Secretary of Labour, broke the law when he concealed a plea agreement from more than 30 underage victims who had been sexually abused by the buddy of Trump, Clinton and Prince Andrew, Jeffrey Epstein.

    Marra, in a 33-page opinion, said prosecutors not only violated the Crime Victims’ Rights Act by not informing the victims, but also misled the girls into believing that the FBI’s sex trafficking case against Epstein was still ongoing. When prosecutors had secretly already closed it after sealing the plea bargain from the public.
    For no good reason whatsoever Marra didn’t overturn Epstein’s plea deal, or issue an order resolving the case. He instead gave federal prosecutors 15 days to come up with a settlement between Epstein and the attorneys of his victims.

    Attorney Brad Edwards, who represents Courtney Wild said it’s ridiculous it took 11 years to litigate and blamed federal prosecutors for needlessly dragging it out when they could have found a solution way back in 2008: https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/sta...226577419.html


    In 2004, ID Models boss Zampolli was exposed as business partner of Jeffrey Epstein. Zampolli and Epstein unsuccessfully tried to buy the bankrupt Elite Model Management. It was none other than Zampolli that, according to the official story, introduced Donald Trump to nude model Melania Knauss in 1998.
    In late 2004, Trump invited Zampolli to work for him, with: “Paolo, you are too good for the fashion industry. You should come work with me”.
    In 2005, Zampolli flew with Donald Trump on his jet to attend his wedding to Melania at Mar-a-Lago in Florida, where he was introduced to Hillary Clinton by Huma Abedin, whom he knew from events in New York.

    Zampolli also met Bill Clinton “many, many, many” times. He called Bill’s former adviser Doug Band “Dougie” and was close to Ronald Burkle, the billionaire investor who was once a close friend and business partner of Bill Clinton: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6738618


    See Zampolli with his Brazilian model wife (much younger and taller) and UN ambassador of Grenada Amanda Ungaro-Zampolli, with Bill Clinton.


    See Ghislaine Maxwell at the 2010 wedding of Chelsea Clinton to a Goldman Sachs banker (Ivanka Trump’s brother-in-law, Josh Kushner, also worked at Goldman Sachs).



    “Katie Johnson” (not her real name) in federal lawsuits accused Donald Trump and his billionaire friend Jeffrey Epstein, of raping her when she was only 13 in New York City in 1994. “Katie” alleged also that the two men raped the 12-year old girl "Maria".


    “Katie Johnson” seems to be completely missing ever since her attorney dropped the law suit against Donald Trump in October 2016.
    Our wonderful media have forgotten all about "Katie".

    In the following 29 minute video, starting at 21:30 "Katie" tells about the rape: https://vimeo.com/176181706

    Here is a collection of court documents of “Katie Johnson” vs. Trump and Epstein: http://thememoryhole2.org/blog/doe-v-trump

    This includes a description of the 4 occasions that the 13-year-old “Katie” engaged in sexual activities with Trump: http://thememoryhole2.org/s/4-Compla...ected-zahs.pdf

    Here’s the testimony by “Tiffany Doe”, who testified that she witnessed all 4 sexual encounters between “Katie” and Donald Trump: http://thememoryhole2.org/s/4-2-Tiff...eclaration.pdf
    Well that's unfortunate.
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  12. #40
    Even if conspiracy theories about some America-First factions of Deep State turning on funders of Deep Zionism ( like Epstein) had some factual base, what would explain timing of latest leaks?
    Also bit surprising how media outlets are headlining these breaking stories today, Drudge Report was not suppoed to be aligned with Deep State.






    Related

    Jeffrey Epstein, Alan Dershowitz, and Pals Accused of Sex-Trafficking Ring

    A lawyer for one of Epstein’s victims claims he was part of sex-trafficking ring with Dershowitz and others—but the Harvard attorney says sealed documents will prove his innocence.
    Kate Briquelet






    Famed attorney Alan Dershowitz was accused of involvement in billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged sex-trafficking ring by an attorney for one of Epstein’s victims, who claimed in federal court on Wednesday that the release of sealed documents will prove it.




    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...550656?lang=en


    Former Federal Prosecutor Behind Jeffrey Epstein Deal Is Now Trump’s Secretary of Labor




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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Jeffrey Epstein has been arrested for sex trafficking minors, marking another major step forward in law enforcement’s recent push to bust elite pedophile rings. (READ: ‘CRIME BOSS’: The Story of The NXIVM Cult’s Links To Clinton, Schumer, and Gillibrand).
    The Daily Beast reports: Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for allegedly sex trafficking dozens of minors in New York and Florida between 2002 and 2005, and will appear in court in New York on Monday, according to three law enforcement sources. The arrest, by the FBI-NYPD Crimes Against Children Task Force, comes about 12 years after the 66-year-old financier essentially got a slap on the wrist for allegedly molesting dozens of underage girls in Florida…
    Several employees and associates allegedly recruited the girls for Epstein’s abuse, and some victims eventually became recruiters themselves, according to law enforcement. The girls were as young as 14, and Epstein knew they were underage, according to details of the arrest and indictment shared by two officials.
    Daily Beast passage ends


    More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/breaki...icking-minors/
    Weird. I thought he was already in prison.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Because everyone who ever met him is guilty?
    1) You article cites links between Epstein and Clinton, Schumer, and Gillibrand and yet you want to ignore the link to Trump. You can't have it both ways, guilt by association when it's Clinton, Schumer and Gillibrand but "You aren't responsible for your friends" when it's Trump.

    2) Trump called Epstein a "terrific guy" who likes beautiful women "on the younger side."

    https://nypost.com/2016/10/09/the-se...ffrey-epstein/

    http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

    “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years,” Trump said. “Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
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  15. #42
    Sad Day for the Democratic Party!

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    First, if you think I've never posted anything about Epstein and Clinton then you've not been paying attention over my years of posting here. Second, everyone knows about Clinton and Epstein by now and no one defends it so what's the point of still posting about it? The left just acts like it doesn't exist. You guys however twist yourselves up trying to deflect from what is plainly obvious to many of us who have researched into this topic and aren't still mesmerized by the left/right false choice...Trump was also involved in that mess.
    I am sure I can find you on leftist boards.
    I am sure you are posting about Trumps "connections" to Epstein on those leftist boards right now.
    I am sure you never posted about Epstein Clinton connections on those leftist boards.

    XD

    POST HARDER AS YOUR WORLDVIEW CRUMBLES!!!

    You know what your problem is? Why nobody seems to care what you post?
    You are only posting like, 500 - 1000 words per post, with only about a dozen links at best, and maybe a dozen pictures.

    Now if you REALLY want to BREAK THE CONDITIONING you need to post at least FIVE THOUSAND WORDS with AT LEAST FIFTY links, and AT LEAST TWO DOZEN pictures per post.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    I am sure I can find you on leftist boards.
    I am sure you are posting about Trumps "connections" to Epstein on those leftist boards right now.
    I am sure you never posted about Epstein Clinton connections on those leftist boards.

    XD

    POST HARDER AS YOUR WORLDVIEW CRUMBLES!!!

    You know what your problem is? Why nobody seems to care what you post?
    You are only posting like, 500 - 1000 words per post, with only about a dozen links at best, and maybe a dozen pictures.

    Now if you REALLY want to BREAK THE CONDITIONING you need to post at least FIVE THOUSAND WORDS with AT LEAST FIFTY links, and AT LEAST TWO DOZEN pictures per post.
    It's usually those that lash out wildly in posts like yours that are finding their own worldview crumbling. Viciously attacking the messenger instead the message. That is the Trumpkin creed, after all. You're taking a lot of this very, very personally for some reason and seem to take it more personally by the day. Perhaps take a break from the net?

    You want a picture? Here ya go:
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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    1) You article cites links between Epstein and Clinton, Schumer, and Gillibrand and yet you want to ignore the link to Trump. You can't have it both ways, guilt by association when it's Clinton, Schumer and Gillibrand but "You aren't responsible for your friends" when it's Trump.
    It's hard to maintain belief in the Trump mythology when there's ample evidence that he's no different from any of the rest.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It's hard to maintain belief in the Trump mythology when there's ample evidence that he's no different from any of the rest.
    Those were his views from 20 years ago. I'm sure he studied the matter and believes the opposite now.
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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Weird. I thought he was already in prison.
    Well it's obvious from your post you don't pay much attention to this topic.

    He got a slap on the wrist for molesting a couple underage girls, and they redacted all of the evidence in the case from public record. That is what Mike Cernovich's lawsuit is about, getting the evidence un-redacted.




    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    1) You article cites links between Epstein and Clinton, Schumer, and Gillibrand and yet you want to ignore the link to Trump. You can't have it both ways, guilt by association when it's Clinton, Schumer and Gillibrand but "You aren't responsible for your friends" when it's Trump.

    2) Trump called Epstein a "terrific guy" who likes beautiful women "on the younger side."

    https://nypost.com/2016/10/09/the-se...ffrey-epstein/

    http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

    “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years,” Trump said. “Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
    Trump also distanced himself from Epstein, saying that Bill Clinton could be in a lot of trouble over Epstein's Island. Why would he be talking about that unprompted if it implicated him??



    He also banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago for hitting on an underage girl.

    Trump does not ever appear on the flight manifest of the Lolita Express, yet Bill Clinton does over 20 times!! The idea that they took him off the manifests and not Bill Clinton is patently ridiculous.

    What happened was Epstein befriended Trump, I'm sure he's a charming dude, and tried to get him to go to his island. Showed up to parties, shmoozed. That's Epstein's job, to lure rich and powerful people to his island to get dirt on them. Trump refused. End of story.
    Last edited by dannno; 07-07-2019 at 02:46 PM.
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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    Those were his views from 20 years ago. I'm sure he studied the matter and believes the opposite now.
    Oh yeah. He really seems like the sort of person who has grown and changed over time.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Well it's obvious from your post you don't pay much attention to this topic.

    He got a slap on the wrist for molesting a couple underage girls, and they redacted all of the evidence in the case from public record. That is what Mike Cernovich's lawsuit is about, getting the evidence un-redacted.






    Trump also distanced himself from Epstein, saying that Bill Clinton could be in a lot of trouble over Epstein's Island. Why would he be talking about that unprompted if it implicated him??



    He also banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago for hitting on an underage girl.

    Trump does not ever appear on the flight manifest of the Lolita Express, yet Bill Clinton does over 20 times!! The idea that they took him off the manifests and not Bill Clinton is patently ridiculous.

    What happened was Epstein befriended Trump, I'm sure he's a charming dude, and tried to get him to go to his island. Showed up to parties, shmoozed. That's Epstein's job, to lure rich and powerful people to his island to get dirt on them. Trump refused. End of story.
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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    1) You article cites links between Epstein and Clinton, Schumer, and Gillibrand and yet you want to ignore the link to Trump. You can't have it both ways, guilt by association when it's Clinton, Schumer and Gillibrand but "You aren't responsible for your friends" when it's Trump.

    2) Trump called Epstein a "terrific guy" who likes beautiful women "on the younger side."

    https://nypost.com/2016/10/09/the-se...ffrey-epstein/

    http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

    “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years,” Trump said. “Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
    Trump banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago and he has hinted at his crimes many times while avoiding getting himself ostracized by the NYC/DC/Hollywood Dems who could have given him trouble in his businesses and Trump's administration is now bringing Epstein to justice.

    None of that is true about the other people you mention.
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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Well it's obvious from your post you don't pay much attention to this topic.
    No need for me to keep up with all the perverts. That's your job.

    Trump also distanced himself from Epstein, saying that Bill Clinton could be in a lot of trouble over Epstein's Island. Why would he be talking about that unprompted if it implicated him??
    Are you asking me to explain Trump? Seriously? Trump does a lot of stupid things. And Gary Hart asked people to follow him when he knew he was having an affair.

    He also banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago for hitting on an underage girl.
    He called Epstein a terrific guy after kicking him off the island. And from what I read it wasn't a ban.

    Trump does not ever appear on the flight manifest of the Lolita Express, yet Bill Clinton does over 20 times!! The idea that they took him off the manifests and not Bill Clinton is patently ridiculous.
    Is Schumer on the "Lolita Express" manifest? Is Gillibrand?

    Edit: And you apparently missed this.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/07/n...ein-trump.html
    Epstein, 64, was a regular for several years at Mar-a-Lago. Testimony in a prior court case indicated that Trump flew at least once on one of the planes Epstein owned and Trump’s phone numbers were in Epstein’s personal phone directory.

    What happened was Epstein befriended Trump, I'm sure he's a charming dude, and tried to get him to go to his island. Showed up to parties, shmoozed. That's Epstein's job, to lure rich and powerful people to his island to get dirt on them. Trump refused. End of story.
    That's your biased interpretation of what happened. What we know for a fact is that Trump knew Epstein like them "on the young side" and Trump still called him a "terrific guy." Considering the fact that Trump also prefers younger women, he's much older than Melania for example, his comment about Epstein means more than "He likes women more than 10 years younger than him."
    Last edited by jmdrake; 07-07-2019 at 04:08 PM.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago and he has hinted at his crimes many times while avoiding getting himself ostracized by the NYC/DC/Hollywood Dems who could have given him trouble in his businesses and Trump's administration is now bringing Epstein to justice.

    None of that is true about the other people you mention.
    He called him a "terrific guy" after kicking him off the island. That is not true of the other people I mentioned.

    Edit: And FYI, I read the original story (can't find it now) of the supposed "ban." Trump only banned Epstein because Epstein was dumb enough to go after the daughter of one of Trump's rich friends. Epstein's recruitment of a 16 year old that Trump was paying $9 an hour as a locker room attendant didn't result in a ban.
    Last edited by jmdrake; 07-07-2019 at 04:13 PM.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    He called him a "terrific guy" after kicking him off the island. That is not true of the other people I mentioned.
    As part of a dig where he alluded to his crimes.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    As part of a dig where he alluded to his crimes.
    So....you take a "dig" at someone by calling him a "terrific guy?"
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So....you take a "dig" at someone by calling him a "terrific guy?"
    You can.

    Like this: I think O'Bummer is a terrific guy, real terrific, probably one of the best presidents the globalists have ever had.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  30. #56
    Epstein once bragged he cofounded the Clinton Foundation. Meaning he set it up as a money laundering operation? Was Epstein an employee and child sex trafficking a part of its income stream?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  32. #57
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So....you take a "dig" at someone by calling him a "terrific guy?"

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago and he has hinted at his crimes many times while avoiding getting himself ostracized by the NYC/DC/Hollywood Dems who could have given him trouble in his businesses and Trump's administration is now bringing Epstein to justice.

    None of that is true about the other people you mention.
    The lawyer for a number of the victims praises trump.
    Jump to 5 minutes:

    https://youtu.be/Yqb59n69Z80?t=296

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    It's usually those that lash out wildly in posts like yours that are finding their own worldview crumbling. Viciously attacking the messenger instead the message. That is the Trumpkin creed, after all. You're taking a lot of this very, very personally for some reason and seem to take it more personally by the day. Perhaps take a break from the net?

    You want a picture? Here ya go:
    I am very happy about the Epstein arrest, and quite happy about what it implies, and have no fear about it meaning Trump is going to prison for child rape. You will not find me spamming walls of texts, links and pictures, trying to convince the world that this is all about the Clintons. I know exactly what this is all about, and all of us who KNOW that PIZZAGATE IS REAL know exactly what this means.

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