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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    Ignore him. He judges anyone who supports Trump as being a racist, just like MSNBC and CNN does. In fact, the posts in which he insults and name calls people who support Trump as being ignorant or below him are countless.
    No, I will not ignore him, nor will I allow the dreaded shouts of "racist" to carry any weight with me or affect what I do or what I advocate for.

    The clock has just spun back 20 years that's all.

    I was a Buchanan supporter all through the 90s, and heard the same $#@!, from the same tired one worlders, over and over.



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  3. #32
    tl;dr: "The government sucks, but I'm just going to virtue signal before falling upon my own sword."
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    A lot of the RPF Stormfronter crowd read the opening sentence and said to themselves, "Wait. What?"

    They never would have supported Amash at all if they'd known that background.
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    You are absolutely right.

    While I understand a lot of the problems, manufactured and otherwise, that many here rant about, there are still many immigrants who actually do seek liberty and fiscal responsibility. More so than average MSFoxNBC Americans do.
    Oh, and just FYI...I have always been aware of Justin's background and family, and even though he was not in my district, not representing me "officially", I donated to his campaign, more than once.

    Why he chose to lose his cool and self destruct and get himself removed as a voice of liberty when we need every single one we can get, is beyond me.

    Ron came to an understanding and reached a modus operandi with "the system" that served him well for 20 plus years.

  6. #34
    Invested in a ton of his re-election campaigns. Let people know we had a rare ally in Congress that was libertarian and principled. Actually felt represented by someone in Congress because I knew Justin was in there. And to see the Mueller Report nonsense will ultimately be the hill Amash died on, it's sad. The duopoly needs to end and fast, he is 100% right, this message would have resonated much deeper, as others have said, by announcing his plans to retire before he came guns blazing against Trump.

    Whatever he does going forward, it would be great if he put his energy into the causes that got him all of the support he received since his first campaign.

  7. #35
    I’m asking you to join me in rejecting the partisan loyalties and rhetoric
    By ignoring the crimes of the deep state against Trump, and the Russian collusion hoax, and join me, in impeaching Trump for not bending over hard enough when told to by Mueller and his team of lynch-men.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I ask you the same question...

    Furthermore, I don't think have much room to talk.

    You are so rigidly wedded to ideology that you'd let your own town burn to the ground rather than allow hoses and fire equipment to be dragged across your property without your permission.
    Some, most likely out of pride and ego, have made idols of their ideologies and ‘purity’, that they could care less if the world burns around them as long as they can selfishly feel to be ‘above’ others.

    The Lord said be as peaceful as doves and as wise as snakes. Not as stubborn as mules. Had Justin been wiser, he would have known which fight to pick, but he put his libertarian ideals ahead of his common sense. And now, he will be booted out of Congress and become a footnote in history instead of being a great leader we hoped he would become. Rand is peaceful as a dove and as wise as a snake with regards to the political game, and that is why his future to make a positive impact is much brighter.
    +
    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

  9. #37
    Seems like Justin could make some noise as the Libertarian presidential nominee.
    2012 was a very exciting time for me, following Ron Paul in the various state nomination processes. Would be nice for the ideas of liberty to be heard on a larger scale again, this forum certainly hasn't been the same since then.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Great to see that Justin is joining me in rejecting the D&R Global Crime Syndicate.

    Welcome to the free world.
    He literally used the "D&R Global Crime Syndicate" to get elected. And now he gives up and we lose a liberty vote in congress, gj.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Douchebag.
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  12. #40
    Honestly, I hope he runs as Libertarian, splits the vote and Trump loses. America can get the socialist they deserve and I can smile as trump cock worshippers cry like Obama supporters in the streets.
    "The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." —Jeff Cooper

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  14. #41
    Justin Amash didn't quit the Republican party, but the Repblican party did quit him. I guess he plans on conning his remaining supporters out of money by playing the victim card. He always has been a demoralizing character in my opinion, maybe he can find some ways to make money doing that.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    He literally used the "D&R Global Crime Syndicate" to get elected. And now he gives up and we lose a liberty vote in congress, gj.
    We're getting pretty late in the game to worry about accumulating votes in congress. He has a chance to elevate the ideas of liberty on a national platform, I hope he takes it.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Oh, and just FYI...I have always been aware of Justin's background and family, and even though he was not in my district, not representing me "officially", I donated to his campaign, more than once.

    Why he chose to lose his cool and self destruct and get himself removed as a voice of liberty when we need every single one we can get, is beyond me.

    Ron came to an understanding and reached a modus operandi with "the system" that served him well for 20 plus years.
    Well at least for him, he got reelected enough times to get his congressional pension. so he's set later.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    Invested in a ton of his re-election campaigns. Let people know we had a rare ally in Congress that was libertarian and principled. Actually felt represented by someone in Congress because I knew Justin was in there. And to see the Mueller Report nonsense will ultimately be the hill Amash died on, it's sad. The duopoly needs to end and fast, he is 100% right, this message would have resonated much deeper, as others have said, by announcing his plans to retire before he came guns blazing against Trump.

    Whatever he does going forward, it would be great if he put his energy into the causes that got him all of the support he received since his first campaign.
    I have donated to him in the past also, I wish I could understand what he's doing but I just can't.
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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    By ignoring the crimes of the deep state against Trump, and the Russian collusion hoax, and join me, in impeaching Trump for not bending over hard enough when told to by Mueller and his team of lynch-men.
    Kind of puts it in perspective. If you believe that this has been a smear job since Hillary went all sour grapes in 2016, you're a partisan hack. If you believe the Russia collusion nonsense, you're a principled non-partisan. If those are my only two options, put me in the 'partisan hack' pile.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Elliot's The Hollow Men

  19. #46
    I imagine it could become pretty tiring wasting your time attempting to protect the freedoms of a by and large moronic populace who wishes to deitize a tyrant.

    Here's hoping him success in the productive sector. He was always too good to be a tapeworm.

    And hey, you never know-- maybe the piece of $#@! president will develop a cohesive philosophy and veto all unconstitutional bills that hit his desk... lmao.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  20. #47
    What a $#@!ing retard. This is why Milton Friedman, Rand Paul,Barry Goldwater and to a now lesser extent Mark Sanford have always been my favorites in politics. Even Ron was semi-pragmatic about this. They actually want to influence politics and make my life freer. They do it through the Republican Party. Libertarians make up aggressively 3% of the population but punch way above their weight in the GOP. That is where Amash should be.

    This whole idea that both parties are equally terrible and all we need are more parties is horse$#@!. You know who had a lot of parties? Germany in the 30s. Chile elected the first Marxist on a fluke vote in a three way race where the guy got 38%. I started posting occasionally on another site that is all people on the left and supposedly "smart". I can tell you people on the left want to kill you. They think using violence against Nazis is okay and every person on the right is a Nazi in their view. They think it is perfectly okay because you have blood on your hands for not wanting socialized medicine, denying free health care to illegal aliens, supporting the Second Amendment, etc.

    I will not be joining Amash.
    Last edited by Krugminator2; 07-04-2019 at 10:42 AM.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Well at least for him, he got reelected enough times to get his congressional pension. so he's set later.
    Hopefully he is wise enough not to bet on that.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Well at least for him, he got reelected enough times to get his congressional pension. so he's set later.

    His family is a super rich. He has never worked a real job in his life that I know of.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by TomtheTinker View Post
    Honestly, I hope he runs as Libertarian, splits the vote and Trump loses. America can get the socialist they deserve and I can smile as trump cock worshippers cry like Obama supporters in the streets.
    The only way he wins is if he can make the D&R lose. Democrats winning over republicans is also not advancing liberty in any real way. Eventually we would need to start see ingthe powers of the 2 establishment part diminish before we can see any real positive move towards a more free state
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

  25. #51
    Amash has always been somewhat disenchanted with politics. IIRC, early on (second term?) he talked about quitting.

    Good luck to him, whatever he does.
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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    What a $#@!ing retard. This is why Milton Friedman, Rand Paul,Barry Goldwater and to a now lesser extent Mark Sanford have always been my favorites in politics. Even Ron was semi-pragmatic about this. They actually want to influence politics and make my life freer. They do it through the Republican Party. Libertarians make up aggressively 3% of the population but punch way above their weight in the GOP. That is where Amash should be.

    This whole idea that both parties are equally terrible and all we need are more parties is horse$#@!. You know who had a lot of parties? Germany in the 30s. Chile elected the first Marxist on a fluke vote in a three way race where the guy got 38%. I started posting occasionally on another site that is all people on the left and supposedly "smart". I can tell you people on the left want to kill you. They think using violence against Nazis is okay and every person on the right is a Nazi in their view. They think it is perfectly okay because you have blood on your hands for not wanting socialized medicine, denying free health care to illegal aliens, supporting the Second Amendment, etc.

    I will not be joining Amash.
    ^^^^ THIS! ALL OF THIS! ^^^^

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    The only way he wins is if he can make the D&R lose. Democrats winning over republicans is also not advancing liberty in any real way. Eventually we would need to start see ingthe powers of the 2 establishment part diminish before we can see any real positive move towards a more free state
    As much as I want liberty, realistically we at least have a shot at seeing Trump fanboys cry. I'll take what I can get.
    "The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." —Jeff Cooper

    Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Amash has always been somewhat disenchanted with politics. IIRC, early on (second term?) he talked about quitting.

    Good luck to him, whatever he does.
    I feel bad for Rand Paul and Thomas Massie. Having to be away from their families, surrounded by welfare whores in a modern Gomorrah.. I am grateful that they are there to object to bills being passed without vote near holidays etc. but I could not seriously fault any of them for picking up their chips and leaving.

    How Thomas Massie, for instance, leaves his home for that $#@! is beyond me.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  29. #55
    Honestly I can't make heads or tails on this. On one hand, I want to say Amash has TDS. But on the other hand, I think its possible that the Deep State is making Amash do these things in order to effective kill his political career. The only way I see that theory being validated is if Rand and Massie suddenly come down with TDS.
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    Calvin Coolidge

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    I imagine it could become pretty tiring wasting your time attempting to protect the freedoms of a by and large moronic populace who wishes to deitize a tyrant.

    Here's hoping him success in the productive sector. He was always too good to be a tapeworm.

    And hey, you never know-- maybe the piece of $#@! president will develop a cohesive philosophy and veto all unconstitutional bills that hit his desk... lmao.
    I would imagine that the people in Amash's district who voted for him either (A) actually wanted those freedoms, or (B)were just voting for Amash because he had an (R) by his name. What people fail to understand is that the people who will vote for you based on party lines are kind of important. Feel free to use them. A vote for you is a vote regardless of the reason. What you cannot rely on, is that the people who are truly passionate about freedom are going to be able to form some spontaneous groundswell of massive support and dominate over two whole parties-worth of people who are going to vote for you simply based on your party-affiliation. It's just not gonna happen—undoubtedly it WOULD be the most meaningful change in the history of American politics, but we're waaaay into pie-in-the-sky territory with that thinking. The people who are truly passionate about freedom are indeed fierce fighters much to their credit, but few in number. The partisan hacks are fodder, but they are the ones who actually win you elections when it comes time to count the votes, dumb as it is. Ya Kind of don't want to piss those folks off by doing what Amash did. It is what it is.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 07-04-2019 at 11:12 AM.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by TomtheTinker View Post
    Honestly, I hope he runs as Libertarian, splits the vote and Trump loses. America can get the socialist they deserve and I can smile as trump cock worshippers cry like Obama supporters in the streets.
    He could run as an independent. Last I checked, the Libertarian Party is a “party”.
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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I have donated to him in the past also, I wish I could understand what he's doing but I just can't.
    Yep. Same here.
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    and our liberty comes from our creator. It has nothing to do with government granting it. -Ron Paul

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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    He could run as an independent. Last I checked, the Libertarian Party is a “party”.
    How does ballot access work for (I)?
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  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by TomtheTinker View Post
    How does ballot access work for (I)?
    Depends on the State. It has worked for others in the past. Murkowski won as an independent in Alaska, even after losing the primary.
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