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    Michigan Poll: Justin Amash Underwater Beneath 20 Percent, Trails Challenger by Double Digits

    What a shame. Amash could have built a bridge with Trump and helped push the GOP in a more libertarian direction, just as Rand Paul does, but instead he chose to burn bridges. While Rand doesn't see eye to eye with Trump on many issues, he does have an open line of communication and the respect of Trump. Amash now has no influence and we libertarians will lose one of the few voices we have in D.C. TDS is a terrible disease.

    Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI), the Michigan Never Trump GOP congressman who recently publicly backed impeachment of President Donald Trump, is now underwater in his own district according to a poll obtained exclusively by Breitbart News.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...double-digits/
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    A poll obtained exclusively by Trumpkin media? Sounds legit.

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    What if Justin actually believes what he says about impeachment? It wouldn't be very principled to say nice things about Trump just to keep his seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    What if Justin actually believes what he says about impeachment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    What if Justin actually believes what he says about impeachment? It wouldn't be very principled to say nice things about Trump just to keep his seat.
    Why does Amash has to say nice things about Trump? What if he just didn't make a point to call for an impeachment he should know will never happen?

    Given that Trump absolutely won't be impeached, it seems to me that the smarter approach would be to just continue working for his constituents. Lining up with AOC and the gang is the definition of political stupidity.
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    What a load of sensationalistic bull. As if "double-digits" equates to some huge margin.

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    Michigan Poll: Justin Amash Underwater Beneath 20 Percent, Trails Challenger by Double Digits
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    Michigan Poll: Justin Amash Underwater, Trails Challenger by Double Digits

    Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI), the Michigan Never Trump GOP congressman who recently publicly backed impeachment of President Donald Trump, is now underwater in his own district according to a poll obtained exclusively by Breitbart News.

    Amash is polling at just 17 percent in the GOP primary, trailing State Rep. Jim Lower by double digits. Lower, who announced his candidacy as Amash revealed his support for impeaching Trump, is at 27 percent–a 10-point lead over Amash. What’s more, another Amash challenger, State Rep. Lynn Afendoulis, is tied with the congressman for 17 percent–meaning one challenger to the incumbent representative is beating him by double digits and a second is already tied with him.

    The poll, conducted by Strategic National, surveyed 400 likely Republican voters in Michigan’s third congressional district from June 29 to July 1 and has a margin of error of 4.89 percent. Strategic National has a track record as a political consulting and polling firm for getting Michigan politics correct. In fact, it was the only firm in the nation to correctly call the Michigan victory by President Trump over Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2016, publishing a poll showing a tie between the two in the final days of the election.

    Strategic National CEO John Yob, whose firm conducted the poll, said in a release obtained by Breitbart News that there are two big takeaways from this survey: First, Amash is in serious trouble and his only real path back to his congressional seat is if Democrats cross over to vote for him in the GOP primary.

    “Congressman Amash has a path to victory by turning out Democrats to vote in the Republican Primary in a crowded field that isn’t represented in the topline results of the survey,” Yob said. “The results of the Democrat portion of the survey are consistent with the strong Democrat turnout he had at his townhall meeting.

    Amash’s approval rating with likely GOP voters surveyed is underwater as well. A whopping 52 percent view him as “very unfavorable,” with another 19 percent saying they view him as “somewhat unfavorable.” Only 12 percent view him as “somewhat favorable” and another 12 percent view him as “very favorable.”
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ouble-digits/#
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    LMAO! As expected. He played to the lunatic left thinking it was going to help him. What a dumb-ass. All he had to do is keep it together, not be a moronic anti-Trumper and he would have been leading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    LMAO! As expected. He played to the lunatic left thinking it was going to help him. What a dumb-ass. All he had to do is keep it together, not be a moronic anti-Trumper and he would have been leading.
    Think about it. If he actually cared about reigning in FISA abuse and government surveillance, what more perfect an opportunity would have ever arisen than now? He could have rallied Republicans around him and joined efforts with Trump, who does not want this to ever happen to another president again.

    How he could blow this moment so hard is beyond me. TDS is a very sad disease.

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    Hopefully Amash can still pull out a victory. I don't like what hes doing calling for Trumps impeachment, but hes one of the best people we have in Congress. We can't afford to lose him.
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    Bra-vo, Justin. What a good move you made. The liberty movement is sure in great shape!



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    So sad. This is horrible news, but not a surprise. Hopefully these polls are inaccurate.
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    Oh boy, I wonder what his challenger's politics/policies are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Oh boy, I wonder what his challenger's politics/policies are...


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    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

    Wow. That’s like hot off the press. What a coincidence. See the date?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    Think about it. If he actually cared about reigning in FISA abuse and government surveillance, what more perfect an opportunity would have ever arisen than now? He could have rallied Republicans around him and joined efforts with Trump, who does not want this to ever happen to another president again.

    How he could blow this moment so hard is beyond me. TDS is a very sad disease.
    Exactly. This is a great time to make a stink about FISA abuse. We all knew it would be abused and here it is happening at the highest level and what does Amash have to say about it? Wasted opportunity.
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    Thumbs up Landslide Justin

    Justin is the tip of the spear movement by Americans to MAGA, by dumping Trump.

    Landslide victory is in the bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    ...Trump, who does not want this to ever happen to another president again.
    What in the world are you talking about? Trump's outlook is that it sure better happen to other presidents, if it happened to him.

    Now that Trump is in the WH, being against FISA abuse means being against Trump.

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    I hope Amash wins , if he is serious about it he needs to say so . Would get more donations .
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    What if Justin actually believes what he says about impeachment? It wouldn't be very principled to say nice things about Trump just to keep his seat.
    He can't, the charges are too stupid for anyone to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Justin is the tip of the spear movement by Americans to MAGA, by dumping Trump.

    Landslide victory is in the bag.

    Let Liberty Reign.
    Only an enemy would encourage Amash to keep doing the stupid garbage that made this possible.
    You are cheering the political death of one of the best voting records in Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    What in the world are you talking about? Trump's outlook is that it sure better happen to other presidents, if it happened to him.

    Now that Trump is in the WH, being against FISA abuse means being against Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Trump's outlook is that it sure better happen to other presidents, if it happened to him.
    Wrong, as you always are.

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    Thumbs down Cheney neocon revival 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only an enemy would encourage Amash to keep doing the stupid garbage that made this possible.
    You are cheering the political death of one of the best voting records in Congress.
    You Cheney Republicans are S L O W learners. Keep coming back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    You Cheney Republicans are S L O W learners. Keep coming back.



    You probably want the Demoncrat to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Wow. That’s like hot off the press. What a coincidence. See the date?
    He had never sponsored any bills until 14 May, when he suddenly decided that he needed to sponsor a bunch of do-nothing go-nowhere bills. He is the sole sponsor on every single one of his 10 bills.

    It's a mystery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    What in the world are you talking about? Trump's outlook is that it sure better happen to other presidents, if it happened to him.

    Now that Trump is in the WH, being against FISA abuse means being against Trump.
    Uh, he's said as much in dozens of interviews. What in the world are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
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    He's probably going to lose.

    Why?

    He angered Trump, and the GOP is presently Trump's bitch.

    As I said weeks ago in another thread, this is exactly why (l)ibertarians ought to leave the GOP.

    Run LP Justin; so what if $#@!tard loses to Biden, same thing anyway - stop pretending they're allies, $#@! them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    He's probably going to lose.

    Why?

    He angered Trump, and the GOP is presently Trump's bitch.

    As I said weeks ago in another thread, this is exactly why (l)ibertarians ought to leave the GOP.

    Run LP Justin; so what if $#@!tard loses to Biden, same thing anyway - stop pretending they're allies, $#@! them.
    He did plenty of other things against Trump and this didn't happen, Rand has opposed Trump and this didn't happen.
    This happened because he endorsed treasonous lies.

    The GOP is the only side we can work with to get anything done and we are pulling them our direction, Trump himself is closer to us than the GOP, if you actually care about making progress then we must work with the GOP until something changes.
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