Thomas Massie targeted by establishment next year

[Matt Collins]

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/03/kentucky-primary-election-2020-representative-thomas-massie-may-have-challenger/1581919001/

National Republicans may be maneuvering to unseat Kentucky's conservative darling, Massie
Phillip M. Bailey - July 3, 2019

U.S. Rep. Thomas Massie may be a darling among libertarians and constitutional conservatives, but the Kentucky Republican is the target of some who are actively recruiting a primary challenger for 2020.

Two independent sources with knowledge of campaign discussions say state Rep. Kim Moser, R-Taylor Mill, is being groomed for a possible bid against the congressman, who has gained notoriety for opposing bipartisan measures big and small.

Moser acknowledged in an interview with the Courier Journal that she's been approached by national party figures about taking on Massie in next year's Republican primary.
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The two sources, who requested anonymity, told the Courier Journal that U.S. Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., who has made putting more women in Congress a personal passion, was among those looking for a challenger for Massie.
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More: https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...er/1581919001/

https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...er/1581919001/

[PAF]

What? I can't imagine why?


Oh, wait...

Thomas Massie Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 99%


https://www.thenewamerican.com/index...nameid=M001184

[Anti Globalist]

Massie won't go down that easily.

[spudea]

The voters in Kentucky will decide. If he loses, its his own fault, stand with Rand.

Edit: well I can't get strike through to work, whatevs, sorry for derailing the thread


[Mod Edit] Wring person, not talking about Massie.

[Origanalist]

The voters in Kentucky will decide. If he loses, its his own fault, stand with Rand.

His own fault because....what?

[Superfluous Man]

The voters in Kentucky will decide. If he loses, its his own fault, stand with Rand.

Doesn't your first sentence mean that if he loses it's the voters' fault?

[PAF]

The voters in Kentucky will decide. If he loses, its his own fault, stand with Rand.

Say what?






Thomas Massie Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 99%

https://www.thenewamerican.com/index...nameid=M001184

[Superfluous Man]

Say what?






Thomas Massie Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 99%

https://www.thenewamerican.com/index...nameid=M001184

I think what Spudea is getting at is that Massie needs to be more pragmatic. If voting for liberty costs him his seat, then he should vote the wrong way in order to pander to voters so he can stay in office. If he doesn't, then it's his fault.

[PAF]

I think what Spudea is getting at is that Massie needs to be more pragmatic. If voting for liberty costs him his seat, then he should vote the wrong way in order to pander to voters so he can stay in office. If he doesn't, then it's his fault.

Ah, yes, the SS Logic thingamajig. I keep forgetting about the new site mission.

[spudea]

I think what Spudea is getting at is that Massie needs to be more pragmatic. If voting for liberty costs him his seat, then he should vote the wrong way in order to pander to voters so he can stay in office. If he doesn't, then it's his fault.

Ah, yes, the SS Logic thingamajig. I keep forgetting about the new site mission.

Wrong. If you don't know what I'm referring to, using false speculation to impose a derogatory context is shameful troll behavior. Nice logic.

[Superfluous Man]

Wrong. If you don't know what I'm referring to, using false speculation to impose a derogatory context is shameful troll behavior. Nice logic.

I don't know for sure what you were referring to. But I know your MO.

The troll is the one coming here criticizing our candidates for not drinking enough of the Trump Kool Aid.

And if you say things that aren't clear and leave people with no recourse but to speculate what you mean, then that's on you.

[PAF]

Wrong. If you don't know what I'm referring to, using false speculation to impose a derogatory context is shameful troll behavior. Nice logic.

What size shoe do you wear?

[spudea]

I don't know for sure what you were referring to. But I know your MO.

The troll is the one coming here criticizing our candidates for not drinking enough of the Trump Kool Aid.

And if you say things that aren't clear and leave people with no recourse but to speculate what you mean, then that's on you.

He's been making several idiotic moves recently, such as leaving the house freedom caucus. Explain that one? Other candidates see weakness, I'm simply saying it's his fault. Maybe you disagree and that's fine.

[Mod Edit] Wring person, not talking about Massie.

[TheTexan]

He's been making several idiotic moves recently, such as leaving the house freedom caucus. Explain that one? Other candidates see weakness, I'm simply saying it's his fault. Maybe you disagree and that's fine.

Exactly. How can anyone expect to take him seriously as a "freedom" candidate when he isn't even part of the freedom caucus ???!!!?

It's got the word "freedom" right in the name, and he wants nothing to do with it!!!

[JoshLowry]

He's been making several idiotic moves recently, such as leaving the house freedom caucus. Explain that one? Other candidates see weakness, I'm simply saying it's his fault. Maybe you disagree and that's fine.

You are thinking of Justin Amash, not Thomas Massie.

Massie > Amash

[Ender]

You are thinking of Justin Amash, not Thomas Massie.

Massie > Amash

Beat me to it- thanks!

[Superfluous Man]

He's been making several idiotic moves recently, such as leaving the house freedom caucus. Explain that one?

I see nothing to explain.

Could you explain why you think that's idiotic?

[spudea]

You are thinking of Justin Amash, not Thomas Massie.

Massie > Amash

Oh dang, yikes, thanks Josh.

[Superfluous Man]

You are thinking of Justin Amash, not Thomas Massie.

Massie > Amash

If this wiki page is accurate, then Massie was never even a part of the House Freedom Caucus in the first place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Caucus#Membership

The relative merits of Amash and Massie may be debatable. But however they're measured, I can't see how membership in that group should be a factor here at all.

ETA: This article even says that Massie "refuses to join the House Freedom Caucus."
https://www.conservativereview.com/n...eak-wants-rep/

So if Amash leaving it is "idiotic," what does that imply about Massie's refusal to join it?

[PAF]

You are thinking of Justin Amash, not Thomas Massie.

Massie > Amash

And just to be crystal clear @spudea :


Amash told CNN’s Haley Byrd, “I have the highest regard for them, and they’re my close friends. I didn’t want to be a further distraction for the group.”

https://ijr.com/amash-opts-leave-fre...g-impeachment/


Justin Amash Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 94%

https://www.thenewamerican.com/index...nameid=A000367


So until though very unlikely his record dips below 90%, he still has my full support.

[juleswin]

[s]The voters in Kentucky will decide. If he loses, its his own fault, stand with Rand Trump.[/s]

fify. I assume that is what you meant to say because I bet that sentence becomes invalid the second Rand starts calling for impeachment or abandons party allegiance and start opposing Trump on principle

[Superfluous Man]

fify. I assume that is what you meant to say because I bet that sentence becomes invalid the second Rand starts calling for impeachment or abandons party allegiance and start opposing Trump on principle

+rep

[Brian4Liberty]

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/03/kentucky-primary-election-2020-representative-thomas-massie-may-have-challenger/1581919001/

Nice tracking link there.

Link with no tracking:
https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...er/1581919001/

Can’t imagine a New York backed candidate would have much luck in Kentucky, but the average voter is pretty ignorant...

The two sources, who requested anonymity, told the Courier Journal that U.S. Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., who has made putting more women in Congress a personal passion, was among those looking for a challenger for Massie.

You can bet Karl Rove would be involved if he thought they had a chance.

[Origanalist]

And just to be crystal clear @spudea :


Amash told CNN’s Haley Byrd, “I have the highest regard for them, and they’re my close friends. I didn’t want to be a further distraction for the group.”

https://ijr.com/amash-opts-leave-fre...g-impeachment/


Justin Amash Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 94%

https://www.thenewamerican.com/index...nameid=A000367


So until though very unlikely his record dips below 90%, he still has my full support.

He just wants to see objectivity on this forum, give the guy a break. After all Amash did side with the traitors against the Orange God Emperor. 90% means nothing!

[Cleaner44]

You are thinking of Justin Amash, not Thomas Massie.

Massie > Amash

Agreed.

[Warlord]

There is no way Massie is going down. We will not stand for it!

[Swordsmyth]

Massie needs to run for McConnell's Senate seat.

[Pauls' Revere]

I think what Spudea is getting at is that Massie needs to be more pragmatic. If voting for liberty costs him his seat, then he should vote the wrong way in order to pander to voters so he can stay in office. If he doesn't, then it's his fault.

Politicians = Pandering at your service.

[Pauls' Revere]

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/03/kentucky-primary-election-2020-representative-thomas-massie-may-have-challenger/1581919001/

National Republicans may be maneuvering to unseat Kentucky's conservative darling, Massie
Phillip M. Bailey - July 3, 2019



https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...er/1581919001/

I see this as more proof the GOP has lost its way. They are not in our camp, (nor the Dems) when will we learn that?

[RonZeplin]

I see this as more proof the GOP has lost its way. They are not in our camp, (nor the Dems) when will we learn that?

The GOP lost it's way when they ran Ape Lincoln, resulting in the enslavement of The Confederate States of America, as well as the Yankees in the north.

We all on the plantation now.

GOP freedom index = -100