Dunkin’ Donuts cracks down on illegal workers

[Swordsmyth]

Dunkin’ Donuts (who we’re technically supposed to just call “Dunkin” now, but that’s not going to happen) has been on a bit of a blitz campaign over the past few months. They’ve been canceling their franchise agreements with a number of franchisees, primarily in the northeast, and moving to boot them out of the premises. Why would they do that? Because an internal review found that several of those outlets were failing to properly verify the citizenship status and legal right to work of their employees. Those found to not be using E-Verify as is specified in the franchise agreements were targeted for removal.

More at: https://hotair.com/archives/2019/07/...legal-workers/

[Anti Globalist]

My dad used to work for Dunkin Donuts. Owned a store back in the 80s before he sold it and then worked for them again to find new locations to open up new stores. He would be proud of this.

[Zippyjuan]

[oyarde]

Don't they have to fill out an I 9 form on employees in the northeast ?

[Swordsmyth]

If it isn't mandatory it doesn't threaten anyone.
Ron never opposed it except as a mandate.

[PAF]

If it isn't mandatory it doesn't threaten anyone.
Ron never opposed it except as a mandate.

eVerify checks against a government database. What may be “optional”, until it is fully rolled out, will eventually be mandated, unless people take a hard stand to reject it now - not later.

Ron Paul expressly objects to eVerify, stating that it is a tool of an authoritarian government.

SwordShill’s statement: “Ron never opposed it except as a mandate.” is simply a full blown statist lie. If you have not watched The Liberty Report video above, take it from Ron himself and not some liar who abhors liberty.

[Swordsmyth]

eVerify checks against a government database. What may be “optional”, until it is fully rolled out, will eventually be mandated, unless people take a hard stand to reject it now - not later.

Ron Paul expressly objects to eVerify, stating that it is a tool of an authoritarian government.

SwordShill’s statement: “Ron never opposed it except as a mandate.” is simply a full blown statist lie. If you have not watched The Liberty Report video above, take it from Ron himself and not some liar who abhors liberty.

I listened to the video, he objects to it being a government mandate, he keeps talking about "MANDATORY" e-verify over and over.

[PAF]

I listened to the video, he objects to it being a government mandate, he keeps talking about "MANDATORY" e-verify over and over.

Intelligent people will listen to Ron speaking in the video above, not some liar who twists words and meanings. For cripes sake, the video is right there and you still try to spew your statist garbage.

[Swordsmyth]

Intelligent people will listen to Ron speaking in the video above, not some liar who twists words and meanings. For cripes sake, the video is right there and you still try to spew your statist garbage.

LOL

Intelligent people certainly can listen to Ron say "Mandatory" over and over.
If it isn't mandatory it can't be abused in the ways he talks about the "Mandatory" version being abused.

[dannno]

Intelligent people will listen to Ron speaking in the video above, not some liar who twists words and meanings. For cripes sake, the video is right there and you still try to spew your statist garbage.

If he was against e-verify as an information service for private companies, he probably would have specified that. It's probably even Constitutional. As he referred to it as mandatory e-verify several times, that means that companies would be required to use it, and that is obviously far more egregious.

[PAF]

LOL

Intelligent people certainly can listen to Ron say "Mandatory" over and over.
If it isn't mandatory it can't be abused in the ways he talks about the "Mandatory" version being abused.

You are so full of sh|t it really is pathetic. “Optional” eVerify — any retarded monkey would know that once rolled out it would absolutely be mandated by this government - give it time and buy-in by folks like you - AND Duncan Donuts which I am certain you creamed-puffed over.

[Swordsmyth]

You are so full of sh|t it really is pathetic. “Optional” eVerify — any retarded monkey would know that once rolled out it would absolutely be mandated by this government - give it time and buy-in by folks like you - AND Duncan Donuts which I am certain you creamed-puffed over.

LOL

It has been around for a very long time and it isn't mandatory.

Stop trying to twist Ron's words, he made his position against MANDATORY e-verify quite clear.

[PAF]

If he was against e-verify as an information service for private companies, he probably would have specified that. It's probably even Constitutional. As he referred to it as mandatory e-verify several times, that means that companies would be required to use it, and that is obviously far more egregious.

Companies can not obtain private information from private individuals without a government database which compiles and houses all of that data. Oh yes, U.N. has a detailed paper how it wants to maintain all of that data from all countries around the globe. Look it up.

[oyarde]

So northeastern liberals are purposely staffing donut shops with illegals . Not really sure it would be that surprising . Last one I went to was on Stop 11 Road in Indianapolis , all americans in there .

[dannno]

Companies can not obtain private information from private individuals without a government database which compiles and houses all of that data. Oh yes, U.N. has a detailed paper how it wants to maintain all of that data from all countries around the globe. Look it up.

As far as the information is limited to criminal background and immigration status, I'm not sure that is considered private information.

[devil21]

I listened to the video, he objects to it being a government mandate, he keeps talking about "MANDATORY" e-verify over and over.

Yes, right after he says immigration hardliners are sure to push MANDATORY E-VERIFY INTO ANY IMMIGRATION REFORM BILL. He's telling you that Congress will MAKE it mandatory so best to oppose it now while it's still optional.

PAF is right. Your spin comments are getting more dishonest by the day. But to be expected from a theocratic world government supporter.

[Swordsmyth]

Yes, right after he says immigration hardliners are sure to push MANDATORY E-VERIFY INTO ANY IMMIGRATION REFORM BILL. He's telling you that Congress will MAKE it mandatory so best to oppose it now while it's still optional.

PAF is right. Your spin comments are getting more dishonest by the day. But to be expected from a theocratic world government supporter.

You and PAF are the dishonest ones, he warns us to stop MANDATORY e-verify and he warns us they will try to put it in an immigration bill but he never calls for ending the voluntary program or tells anyone not to use it.

If Ron was against the voluntary version he wouldn't have kept using the word "mandatory" and he would have called for an end to the current voluntary program.

[devil21]

You and PAF are the dishonest ones, he warns us to stop MANDATORY e-verify and he warns us they will try to put it in an immigration bill but he never calls for ending the voluntary program or tells anyone not to use it.

If Ron was against the voluntary version he wouldn't have kept using the word "mandatory" and he would have called for an end to the current voluntary program.

So you think Dr. Paul supports government databases for tracking information about Americans, whether voluntary or mandatory? Wouldn't he call that an overreach of Constitutional government and ask you where in the Constitution it is authorized as a legitimate role of government?

[Swordsmyth]

So you think Dr. Paul supports government databases for tracking information about Americans, whether voluntary or mandatory? Wouldn't he call that an overreach of Constitutional government and ask you where in the Constitution it is authorized as a legitimate role of government?

I know what he said and what he didn't say, you are putting words in his mouth.

[devil21]

I know what he said and what he didn't say, you are putting words in his mouth.

You must be new to Dr. Paul's positions on the role of Constitutional government. Please visit this thread to familiarize yourself with the namesake of this forum:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...***-Start-here

[Swordsmyth]

You must be new to Dr. Paul's positions on the role of Constitutional government. Please visit this thread to familiarize yourself with the namesake of this forum:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...***-Start-here

Stop trying to change the subject and read Ron's mind, everyone can hear for themselves what he said and what he didn't say.

[PAF]

Stop trying to change the subject and read Ron's mind, everyone can hear for themselves what he said and what he didn't say.

Ron knows that it is already in voluntary use, and in the article refers to it as such. That does not mean that he supports it. Ron is principled enough to not tell a business what to do or not do, but it is clear by the language he is using that he opposes anybody being recorded in a government/federal database, regardless if they are immigrant or American.





E-Verify is a (currently) voluntary program where businesses check job applicants’ Social Security numbers and other Information — potentially including “biometric” identifiers like fingerprints — against information stored in a federal database to determine if the job applicants are legally in the United States.

_______________________



Ron Paul Warns 'E-Verify' Threatens Us All

Authored by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity



In addition to funding for a border wall and other border security measures, immigration hardliners are sure to push to include mandatory E-Verify in any immigration legislation considered by Congress. E-Verify is a (currently) voluntary program where businesses check job applicants’ Social Security numbers and other Information — potentially including “biometric” identifiers like fingerprints — against information stored in a federal database to determine if the job applicants are legally in the United States.


Imagine how much time would be diverted from serving consumers and growing the economy if every US business had to comply with E-Verify. Also, collecting the relevant information and operating the mandatory E-Verify system will prove costly to taxpayers.


Millions of Americans could be denied jobs because E-Verify mistakenly identifies them as illegal immigrants. These Americans would be forced to go through a costly and time-consuming process to force the government to correct its mistake. It is doubtful employers could afford to keep jobs open while potential hires went through this process.


A federal database with Social Security numbers and other identifying information is an identify thief’s dream. Given the federal government’s poor track record for protecting personal information, is there any doubt mandatory E-Verify would put millions of Americans at risk for identity theft?


Some supporters of E-Verify deny the program poses any threat to civil liberties, as it will only be used to verify citizenship or legal residency. They even claim a system forcing individuals to have their identities certified by the government is not a national ID system.


These individuals are ignoring the history of government programs sold as only affecting a particular group or being used for a limited purpose being expanded beyond initial targets.


For example, Americans were promised that only the wealthiest Americans would ever pay income taxes. And some of the PATRIOT Act’s worst provisions that we were told would only be used against terrorists are routinely used to investigate drug crimes.


E-Verify almost certainly will be used for purposes unrelated to immigration. One potential use of E-Verify is to limit the job prospects of anyone whose lifestyle displeases the government. This could include those accused of failing to pay their fair share in taxes, those who homeschool or do not vaccinate their children, or those who own firearms.


Unscrupulous government officials could use E-Verify against those who practice antiwar, anti-tax, anti-surveillance, and anti-Federal Reserve activism. Those who consider this unlikely should remember the long history of the IRS targeting the political enemies of those in power and the use of anti-terrorism laws to harass antiwar activists. They should also consider the current moves to outlaw certain types of “politically incorrect” speech, such as disputing the alleged “consensus” regarding climate change.


Claiming that mandatory E-Verify is necessary to stop illegal immigration does not make it constitutional. Furthermore, having to ask the federal government for permission before obtaining a job is a characteristic of authoritarian societies, not free ones. History shows that mandatory E-Verify’s use will expand beyond immigration enforcement and could be used as a tool of political repression. All those who value liberty should oppose mandatory E-Verify.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...reatens-us-all

[donnay]

Dunkin’ Donuts (who we’re technically supposed to just call “Dunkin” now, but that’s not going to happen) has been on a bit of a blitz campaign over the past few months. They’ve been canceling their franchise agreements with a number of franchisees, primarily in the northeast, and moving to boot them out of the premises. Why would they do that? Because an internal review found that several of those outlets were failing to properly verify the citizenship status and legal right to work of their employees. Those found to not be using E-Verify as is specified in the franchise agreements were targeted for removal.

More at: https://hotair.com/archives/2019/07/...legal-workers/

I bet they are mostly in Massachusetts.

[specsaregood]

If this is about the Northeast then most of these illegals are probably Indians, related to others here on a H1b or alike.

[PAF]

I bet they are mostly in Massachusetts.

Ron Paul: "Claiming that mandatory E-Verify is necessary to stop illegal immigration does not make it constitutional. Furthermore, having to ask the federal government for permission before obtaining a job is a characteristic of authoritarian societies, not free ones."

[donnay]

Ron knows that it is already in voluntary use, and in the article refers to it as such. That does not mean that he supports it. Ron is principled enough to not tell a business what to do or not do, but it is clear by the language he is using that he opposes anybody being recorded in a government/federal database, regardless if they are immigrant or American.





E-Verify is a (currently) voluntary program where businesses check job applicants’ Social Security numbers and other Information — potentially including “biometric” identifiers like fingerprints — against information stored in a federal database to determine if the job applicants are legally in the United States.

_______________________



Ron Paul Warns 'E-Verify' Threatens Us All

Authored by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity



In addition to funding for a border wall and other border security measures, immigration hardliners are sure to push to include mandatory E-Verify in any immigration legislation considered by Congress. E-Verify is a (currently) voluntary program where businesses check job applicants’ Social Security numbers and other Information — potentially including “biometric” identifiers like fingerprints — against information stored in a federal database to determine if the job applicants are legally in the United States.


Imagine how much time would be diverted from serving consumers and growing the economy if every US business had to comply with E-Verify. Also, collecting the relevant information and operating the mandatory E-Verify system will prove costly to taxpayers.


Millions of Americans could be denied jobs because E-Verify mistakenly identifies them as illegal immigrants. These Americans would be forced to go through a costly and time-consuming process to force the government to correct its mistake. It is doubtful employers could afford to keep jobs open while potential hires went through this process.


A federal database with Social Security numbers and other identifying information is an identify thief’s dream. Given the federal government’s poor track record for protecting personal information, is there any doubt mandatory E-Verify would put millions of Americans at risk for identity theft?


Some supporters of E-Verify deny the program poses any threat to civil liberties, as it will only be used to verify citizenship or legal residency. They even claim a system forcing individuals to have their identities certified by the government is not a national ID system.


These individuals are ignoring the history of government programs sold as only affecting a particular group or being used for a limited purpose being expanded beyond initial targets.


For example, Americans were promised that only the wealthiest Americans would ever pay income taxes. And some of the PATRIOT Act’s worst provisions that we were told would only be used against terrorists are routinely used to investigate drug crimes.


E-Verify almost certainly will be used for purposes unrelated to immigration. One potential use of E-Verify is to limit the job prospects of anyone whose lifestyle displeases the government. This could include those accused of failing to pay their fair share in taxes, those who homeschool or do not vaccinate their children, or those who own firearms.


Unscrupulous government officials could use E-Verify against those who practice antiwar, anti-tax, anti-surveillance, and anti-Federal Reserve activism. Those who consider this unlikely should remember the long history of the IRS targeting the political enemies of those in power and the use of anti-terrorism laws to harass antiwar activists. They should also consider the current moves to outlaw certain types of “politically incorrect” speech, such as disputing the alleged “consensus” regarding climate change.


Claiming that mandatory E-Verify is necessary to stop illegal immigration does not make it constitutional. Furthermore, having to ask the federal government for permission before obtaining a job is a characteristic of authoritarian societies, not free ones. History shows that mandatory E-Verify’s use will expand beyond immigration enforcement and could be used as a tool of political repression. All those who value liberty should oppose mandatory E-Verify.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...reatens-us-all

Problem, reaction--solution. E-Verify is a threat to liberty, no doubt. People like Mitt Romney were pushing it for all. The way to stop it from happening is end welfare. That would end the incentive for many people wanting to come here.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

A ton of businesses request your ssn just to apply to a job nowadays. You can protest it but then you won't have a job. What's worse is a lot of them use online applications, so your information gets immediately stolen. I don't think people comprehend to what extent everything is hacked. You hear about major hacks every once in a while, but what about all the hacks that are never caught?
They weren't lying when saying your SSN is a tax slave number. You don't exist without it. I wish my parents never got me one.

And the background check/credit report or whatever companies abuse your SSN with is not far off from the Chinese social points system they are using, except here it's just private companies doing it.

[Superfluous Man]

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Zippyjuan again."

[devil21]

A ton of businesses request your ssn just to apply to a job nowadays. You can protest it but then you won't have a job. What's worse is a lot of them use online applications, so your information gets immediately stolen. I don't think people comprehend to what extent everything is hacked. You hear about major hacks every once in a while, but what about all the hacks that are never caught?
They weren't lying when saying your SSN is a tax slave number. You don't exist without it. I wish my parents never got me one.

And the background check/credit report or whatever companies abuse your SSN with is not far off from the Chinese social points system they are using, except here it's just private companies doing it.

Tax slave yes but more directly it is the federal corporation employee ID number and your signature on the SS card establishes an employment contract, with your agreement upon reaching age of majority, enabling the federal corporation to act as trustee (owner and controller) of your estate and the legal trust that was created from your birth certificate (the ALL CAPS NAME on the SS card is the legal name of the trust, it is not you). A full power of attorney given to the federal corporation that you work for, simply put. The legal rabbit hole on this stuff is deep and most people don't have a clue about any of it.

[Zippyjuan]

Tax slave yes but more directly it is the federal corporation employee ID number and your signature on the SS card establishes an employment contract, with your agreement upon reaching age of majority, enabling the federal corporation to act as trustee (owner and controller) of your estate and the legal trust that was created from your birth certificate (the ALL CAPS NAME on the SS card is the legal name of the trust, it is not you). A full power of attorney given to the federal corporation that you work for, simply put. The legal rabbit hole on this stuff is deep and most people don't have a clue about any of it.

Fake internet meme. There is no "trust" based on your Social Security number or birth certificate.