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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    If Gabbard hammers foreign policy every chance she can get, I will get behind her.
    If she makes it the core of her platform, I am with her.
    Tulsi is a confusing lady, she is against regime change wars but fully supports the war on terrorism. She can hammer her non interventionist foreign policy all day but how do you know she would not renege on those promises when she gets into office?

    I am going to try and vote for one of the candidates next election and I am not very impressed with what I am seeing. Regardless, it's Yang and Tulsi right now but I am doing this knowing that they could easily flip and govern like the Obamas and Trumps of this world



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    Is it just me, or is the number specifically what Trump asked for to build the "wall"? I swear they are just rubbing it in his face. Nope, no wall, no fence, but, we will take that same money you wanted and give it to the $#@!ing illegals instead!
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    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Trump was going to do something about it but he just destabilized a country south of the border, talked about ending birthright citizenship but did nothing, failed to secure money for the wall until he lost the house. Not saying Trump is all to blame for this but he is not the solution.
    and neither is/are the Dem's or GOP. Nobody stepped up on this.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Tulsi is a confusing lady, she is against regime change wars but fully supports the war on terrorism. She can hammer her non interventionist foreign policy all day but how do you know she would not renege on those promises when she gets into office?
    She'll be more beholden to her foreign policy policies if she makes them her primary focus.

    And it would depend on the debates with Trump. If she continued to hammer foreign policy, she could win.
    It's a big hypothetical. Even if she lost, the debates would be worth it.
    My whole life, I have never seen a election that talked about foreign policy as if nuclear war is the world's biggest threat (it is, by far).

    If she turned, I'd be disappointed, but not surprised.
    Last edited by UWDude; 06-27-2019 at 10:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    She'll be more beholden to her foreign policy policies if she makes them her primary focus.

    And it would depend on the debates with Trump. If she continued to hammer foreign policy, she could win.
    It's a big hypothetical. Even if she lost, the debates would be worth it.
    My whole life, I have never seen a election that talked about foreign policy as if nuclear war is the world's biggest threat (it is, by far).

    If she turned, I'd be disappointed, but not surprised.
    I would say this, if she makes non interventionist foreign policy the main point of her campaign, secure the nomination over Bernie and Biden, I will give her a chance and vote for her. Btw, Trump made reducing illegal immigration a focal point of his campaign and he is about to sign a bill to increases funding for the housing and welfare of illegal immigrants in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    and neither is/are the Dem's or GOP. Nobody stepped up on this.
    The democrats support what is going on, they did not run on reducing illegal immigration, Trump on the other hand. The dems already stepped up to get this bill passed, its the GOP/Trump who needs to act instead letting the dems walk all over them

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Trump was going to do something about it but he just destabilized a country south of the border, talked about ending birthright citizenship but did nothing, failed to secure money for the wall until he lost the house. Not saying Trump is all to blame for this but he is not the solution.
    Trump isn't a dictator. Just because Trump got elected doesn't mean the corruption in our federal courts will disappear despite the qanon fantasies that corruption will be dissolved by Trump inside our federal system. We elected one President who doesn't want to be a puppet President like all of the others (Bushes, Clintons, Obamas), however we still have a corrupt federal judiciary and corruption within Congress.

    Federal judges are appointed for life, they cannot be taken out of office without impeachment or voluntary resignation. Corrupt federal judges then appoint corrupt staff. Then there are corrupt US marshals and corrupt FBI and corrupt Department of Justice people. Federal buildings are protected by DOJ thugs. So the DOJ can essentially interfere with the federal courts if they wanted to and if they were that dirty since the U.S. Attorney and U.S. marshals both work for the same corrupt agency. I swear to god, these agencies need to be split apart, we do not need some big oligarch agency called the US DOJ. We need separation of powers for the Department of Justice.

    Anyways back to my point, The President is not a dictator. We thought getting him in would stop the Deep State, would stop the police state, and would make our country worthy of the American flag and worthy of respect. Instead the federal courts have gotten more corrupt, more naked and brazen with their tyranny. The FBI and DOJ have gotten worse since Trump tried to fight the deep state. Anybody who attempts to fight the deep state legally is thrown in federal prison or jail or murdered. We are losing our freedom of speech and freedom of press with these government sanctioned retaliations. So President Trump is essentially powerless against corrupt federal agencies and a corrupt Congress.

    Did you know Trump cannot fire all federal employees because of the Merit Based System is how our federal government employs people to work, they do not have a patronage based system. So if corrupt people manage to get in all levels of government, than we are screwed because our sitting President cannot just simply fire them all because of the protection by the workers unions and the Merit Based Systems Protection Board. The Deep State can screw children, throw innocent people in prison, plant child porn, make up lies, false/phony investigations, malicious prosecutions, retaliation against anybody speaking up, and government employees can do whatever they please unless they step on a higher up employees toes. So if somebody higher up gets pissed off, then the lower down corrupt employee is fired. It is a chain of government corruption and terror.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Tulsi is a confusing lady, she is against regime change wars but fully supports the war on terrorism. She can hammer her non interventionist foreign policy all day but how do you know she would not renege on those promises when she gets into office?

    I am going to try and vote for one of the candidates next election and I am not very impressed with what I am seeing. Regardless, it's Yang and Tulsi right now but I am doing this knowing that they could easily flip and govern like the Obamas and Trumps of this world


    You should already know it doesn't matter who gets into office with what degree of anti-war position, its about getting someone in there who really means to be anti-war and dealing with the cards they're given, to the best of their ability. The deep state and mic WILL lie to the president and fake intelligence to get their way.

    We all know this already, why even pretend to be concerned if a potential anti-war candidate flips in office?

    Once everything is in motion, the media frenzy has begun and the people are demanding action be taken to spare those "poor ashy children", its almost out of the presidents hand and that is almost certainly why Trump shot missiles at an empty building at the beginning of his term.

    Fake Disaster + MSM + Ratings + Emotional Americans = Action

    Inaction = cowardess = low approval ratings = no re-election to do act on the good intentions you originally started with

    They get all the presidents this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    You should already know it doesn't matter who gets into office with what degree of anti-war position, its about getting someone in there who really means to be anti-war and dealing with the cards they're given, to the best of their ability. The deep state and mic WILL lie to the president and fake intelligence to get their way.

    We all know this already, why even pretend to be concerned if a potential anti-war candidate flips in office?

    Once everything is in motion, the media frenzy has begun and the people are demanding action be taken to spare those "poor ashy children", its almost out of the presidents hand and that is almost certainly why Trump shot missiles at an empty building at the beginning of his term.

    Fake Disaster + MSM + Ratings + Emotional Americans = Action

    Inaction = cowardess = low approval ratings = no re-election to do act on the good intentions you originally started with

    They get all the presidents this way.
    Black pill stone cold truth.

    Remember when Georgie choked on a pretzel? Georgie got beat up, just like Bernie did the night before he endorsed Hillary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    The democrats support what is going on, they did not run on reducing illegal immigration, Trump on the other hand. The dems already stepped up to get this bill passed, its the GOP/Trump who needs to act instead letting the dems walk all over them
    The dems support what is going on,...

    Division among the nation ,way to go. Divide and conquer, I get it.

    Privileged v/s unprivileged, after all we must ALL be equal in the eyes of government.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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    Awesome...bring it down. ?where's the gop?

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    The dems support what is going on,...

    Division among the nation ,way to go. Divide and conquer, I get it.

    Privileged v/s unprivileged, after all we must ALL be equal in the eyes of government.
    The House Democrats gave up on their own version of the bill so the one passed was the one put together by Senate Republicans.

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