OMG: Bill Kristol is running ads to SUPPORT Amash!

[loveshiscountry]

Seems like a good idea until you lose your strong base. Where will he be when none of his supporters will caucus for him because he decides to align with kristol"? Then all he does is bash Trump all day and lose his soft support!???

PLEASE AMASH, DISAVOW KRISTOL BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!

What proof do you have that he's going to loose his base? The over 90% of the time he's voted with Trump this year proof?

Unless you have some inside info that Amash is going to do a 180 on policy, he's not aligning with Kristol.

He has no reason to disavow Kristol, or the klan for that matter, since he doesn't espouse their views.

[Swordsmyth]

Well of course that's it. Amash has been a double agent voting for small government all these years just so he could spring a trap like this. I wish we had 100 more double agents like Amash.

He's showing all the signs of a defector, just like Flake.

[loveshiscountry]

He's showing all the signs of a defector, just like Flake.

So Flake is a defector because he voted 85% with Heritage his last term and had a 77% lifetime record?

[Swordsmyth]

So Flake is a defector because he voted 85% with Heritage his last term and had a 77% lifetime record?

The JBS ratings are better:

https://www.thenewamerican.com/index...nameid=F000444

Name: Jeff Flake

Senate: Arizona, Republican

Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 79%

Status: Former Member of the Senate

Score Breakdown:
69% (115th Congress: 2017-2018); 76% (114th Congress: 2015-2016); 67% (113th Congress: 2013-2014); 81% (112th Congress: 2011-2012); 94% (111th Congress: 2009-2010); 77% (110th Congress: 2007-2008); 61% (109th Congress: 2005-2006); 85% (108th Congress: 2003-2004); 87% (107th Congress: 2001-2002)


He sold out and did everything he could to keep Trump from nominating good conservative judges and help with the Treasonous coup:


Flake Vows to Oppose Judges Unless Mueller Bill Gets a Vote

He was rewarded:
Jeff Flake In Talks for Position at CBS

[loveshiscountry]

The JBS ratings are better:

https://www.thenewamerican.com/index...nameid=F000444

Name: Jeff Flake

Senate: Arizona, Republican

Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 79%

Status: Former Member of the Senate

Score Breakdown:
69% (115th Congress: 2017-2018); 76% (114th Congress: 2015-2016); 67% (113th Congress: 2013-2014); 81% (112th Congress: 2011-2012); 94% (111th Congress: 2009-2010); 77% (110th Congress: 2007-2008); 61% (109th Congress: 2005-2006); 85% (108th Congress: 2003-2004); 87% (107th Congress: 2001-2002)


He sold out and did everything he could to keep Trump from nominating good conservative judges and help with the Treasonous coup:


Flake Vows to Oppose Judges Unless Mueller Bill Gets a Vote

He was rewarded:
Jeff Flake In Talks for Position at CBS

Decent votes. Not great. He voted to confirm Kavanaugh

[r3volution 3.0]

Supporting Amash accomplishes the exact opposite of that [moving the GOP leftward]. He would be better off supporting Trump, along with literally every single other elected Republican in office anywhere in the country before supporting Amash if that's really his game.

Indeed, but Kristol might have personal, non-policy reasons for wanting to remove Trump.

For instance, it might be that, due to personal animosities, Kristol is off the gravy train in Trump's GOP.

He might be angling for a nice sinecure at some Think Tank down the road.

It's also possible, but much less likely, that this is actually an effort to undermine Amash.

[juleswin]

Seems like a good idea until you lose your strong base. Where will he be when none of his supporters will caucus for him because he decides to align with kristol"? Then all he does is bash Trump all day and lose his soft support!???

PLEASE AMASH, DISAVOW KRISTOL BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!

Resurrected old account who hates the LP and Amash. Must be another SS clone account

[PAF]

The JBS ratings are better:

https://www.thenewamerican.com/index...nameid=F000444

Name: Jeff Flake

Senate: Arizona, Republican

Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 79%

Status: Former Member of the Senate

Score Breakdown:
69% (115th Congress: 2017-2018); 76% (114th Congress: 2015-2016); 67% (113th Congress: 2013-2014); 81% (112th Congress: 2011-2012); 94% (111th Congress: 2009-2010); 77% (110th Congress: 2007-2008); 61% (109th Congress: 2005-2006); 85% (108th Congress: 2003-2004); 87% (107th Congress: 2001-2002)


He sold out and did everything he could to keep Trump from nominating good conservative judges and help with the Treasonous coup:


Flake Vows to Oppose Judges Unless Mueller Bill Gets a Vote

He was rewarded:
Jeff Flake In Talks for Position at CBS

Yet you just told me in another thread that Index ratings in the 70’s was acceptable.

LOL

No thanks. Though I do not bother to vote national circus party anymore, I will stick to supporting only those with 90% or better.

[Swordsmyth]

Yet you just told me in another thread that Index ratings in the 70’s was acceptable.

LOL

No thanks. Though I do not bother to vote national circus party anymore, I will stick to supporting only those with 90% or better.

He was acceptable until he sold out.

I also told you I don't really like them unless they are in the 80's or better.

[cruzrulez]

Resurrected old account who hates the LP and Amash. Must be another SS clone account

yeah, this place is demoralizing due to a number of factors. I had an account registered in '08, been lurking since '07.

[sylcfh]

John Bolton once said he'd support Ron Paul. Who cares? Rats desperately try to cling to anything to save themselves.

[Swordsmyth]

John Bolton once said he'd support Ron Paul. Who cares? Rats desperately try to cling to anything to save themselves.

Kristol isn't the only scumbag who suddenly likes Amash, when all the wrong people start slapping you on the back you should question the path you have chosen.

[timosman]

Indeed, but Kristol might have personal, non-policy reasons for wanting to remove Trump.

For instance, it might be that, due to personal animosities, Kristol is off the gravy train in Trump's GOP.

He might be angling for a nice sinecure at some Think Tank down the road.

It's also possible, but much less likely, that this is actually an effort to undermine Amash.

Pathetic if true.

[kahless]

What proof do you have that he's going to loose his base? The over 90% of the time he's voted with Trump this year proof?

Unless you have some inside info that Amash is going to do a 180 on policy, he's not aligning with Kristol.

He has no reason to disavow Kristol, or the klan for that matter, since he doesn't espouse their views.

Really? When Trump needed him this is how he voted.

Making concealed-carry firearm permits valid across state lines.
Amash Voted "No".
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-.../house-bill/38
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll663.xml

H.J.Res.2 - Proposing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
Amash - Voted "No"
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...t-resolution/2
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll138.xml

Overturning President Trump’s emergency declaration for border wall funding (245-182)
Feb. 26, 2019
Amash - Voted Yes
H.J.Res.46 - Relating to a national emergency declared by the President on February 15, 2019.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...-resolution/46
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2019/roll094.xml

Overriding President Trump’s veto of a bill that overturned his emergency declaration for border wall funding (248-181)
March 26
Amash - Voted Yes
H.J.Res.46 - Relating to a national emergency declared by the President on February 15, 2019.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...-resolution/46
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2019/roll127.xml

Constitutional balanced budget amendment (233-184)
April 12, 2018
Amash - Voted No
H.J.Res.2 - Proposing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...t-resolution/2
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll138.xml

Penalizing states and localities that have “sanctuary” laws on immigration (228-195)
June 29, 2017
Amash - Voted No

H.R.3003 - No Sanctuary for Criminals Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...ouse-bill/3003
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll342.xml

Budget resolution to repeal the Affordable Care Act (227-198)
Jan. 13, 2017
Amash - Voted No
S.Con.Res.3 - A concurrent resolution setting forth the congressional budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2017 and setting forth the appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2018 through 2026.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...t-resolution/3
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll058.xml

Repeal of an FCC rule barring internet providers from sharing data on customers’ activities (215-205)
March 28, 2017
Amash - Voted No
S.J.Res.34 - A joint resolution providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the rule submitted by the Federal Communications Commission relating to "Protecting the Privacy of Customers of Broadband and Other Telecommunications Services".
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...-resolution/34
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll202.xml[/QUOTE]

[loveshiscountry]

Really? When Trump needed him this is how he voted.

Making concealed-carry firearm permits valid across state lines.
Amash Voted "No".
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-.../house-bill/38
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll663.xml

H.J.Res.2 - Proposing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
Amash - Voted "No"
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...t-resolution/2
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll138.xml

Overturning President Trump’s emergency declaration for border wall funding (245-182)
Feb. 26, 2019
Amash - Voted Yes
H.J.Res.46 - Relating to a national emergency declared by the President on February 15, 2019.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...-resolution/46
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2019/roll094.xml

Overriding President Trump’s veto of a bill that overturned his emergency declaration for border wall funding (248-181)
March 26
Amash - Voted Yes
H.J.Res.46 - Relating to a national emergency declared by the President on February 15, 2019.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...-resolution/46
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2019/roll127.xml

Constitutional balanced budget amendment (233-184)
April 12, 2018
Amash - Voted No
H.J.Res.2 - Proposing a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...t-resolution/2
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll138.xml

Penalizing states and localities that have “sanctuary” laws on immigration (228-195)
June 29, 2017
Amash - Voted No

H.R.3003 - No Sanctuary for Criminals Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...ouse-bill/3003
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll342.xml

Budget resolution to repeal the Affordable Care Act (227-198)
Jan. 13, 2017
Amash - Voted No
S.Con.Res.3 - A concurrent resolution setting forth the congressional budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2017 and setting forth the appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2018 through 2026.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...t-resolution/3
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll058.xml

Repeal of an FCC rule barring internet providers from sharing data on customers’ activities (215-205)
March 28, 2017
Amash - Voted No
S.J.Res.34 - A joint resolution providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the rule submitted by the Federal Communications Commission relating to "Protecting the Privacy of Customers of Broadband and Other Telecommunications Services".
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...-resolution/34
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll202.xml

lol @ When Trump needed him. So he didn't need him on all the other votes that he voted with him on?

btw The two that I bolded were the only two where Massie and Amash differed. So is Massie not good too?

[kahless]

lol @ When Trump needed him. So he didn't need him on all the other votes that he voted with him on?

huh?

[loveshiscountry]

huh?

When he voted with Trump all those other times, did those times not matter? Did that clear it up?

[kahless]

When he voted with Trump all those other times, did those times not matter? Did that clear it up?

How do you justify Amash's voting record that I posted? How do you justify Amash open borders policy that will certainly grow government and ensure a future of big government politicians being elected?

[Superfluous Man]

lol @ When Trump needed him. So he didn't need him on all the other votes that he voted with him on?

btw The two that I bolded were the only two where Massie and Amash differed. So is Massie not good too?

Yeah, looking over those votes they mainly look like votes Ron Paul would have cast the same way Amash did too.

[loveshiscountry]

How do you justify Amash's voting record that I posted? How do you justify Amash open borders policy that will certainly grow government and ensure a future of big government politicians being elected?

How do you justify getting in a conversation with me and ignoring what I've posted when you respond?

[Anti Federalist]

on hold

[Superfluous Man]

Ron would have voted in favor of keeping the Affordable Care Act?

Amash didn't vote in favor of keeping the Affordable Care Act. He voted against replacing it with Trumpcare, just like Rand and Massie did. If you pretend you don't know Dr. No would have voted no on that one too, you're lying.

[kahless]

How do you justify getting in a conversation with me and ignoring what I've posted when you respond?

I posted a few very important issues where Amash failed. Was that not enough? Listen I was a fan of his in this forum, I got conned to but is that where we are now overlooking someone that has screwed us because at one time it appeared he was one of us?

[Anti Federalist]

Amash didn't vote in favor of keeping the Affordable Care Act. He voted against replacing it with Trumpcare, just like Rand and Massie did. If you pretend you don't know Dr. No would have voted no on that one too, you're lying.

If that is in fact what that vote was, then I retract my statements.

It's buried in an Omnibus spending bill that I am not taking five hours to decipher.

I'll take your word for it, this time.

See how reasonable I can be.

[Superfluous Man]

If that is in fact what that vote was, then I retract my statements.

For crying out loud man, why are you even commenting at all if you're so ignorant?

This wasn't some secret vote that went under the radar.

[kahless]

Amash didn't vote in favor of keeping the Affordable Care Act. He voted against replacing it with Trumpcare, just like Rand and Massie did. If you pretend you don't know Dr. No would have voted no on that one too, you're lying.

Bull$#@!, misinformation in favor of "your guy".

[Anti Federalist]

For crying out loud man, why are you even commenting at all if you're so ignorant?

This wasn't some secret vote that went under the radar.

Yeah, I missed the gist of it...not all of us are perfect, like you.

It appears he voted against repeal.

Show me why I am "ignorant".

That is why I commented.

You know, to ask questions and obtain information...

[loveshiscountry]

I posted a few very important issues where Amash failed. Was that not enough? Listen I was a fan of his in this forum, I got conned to but is that where we are now overlooking someone that has screwed us because at one time it appeared he was one of us?

Maybe I missed your point. It looked like a copy and paste to me. I also noted the votes of another conservative Thomas Massie.

You're the only one trying to con people here. Explain the 94 score here

I wish we had 100 more like him who con us and still score 94.

[Superfluous Man]

Bull$#@!, misinformation in favor of "your guy".

Not just one of my guys, all of them. The reason this website exists is to support candidates who vote no on bills like that one.

[Superfluous Man]

Yeah, I missed the gist of it...not all of us are perfect, like you.

It appears he voted against repeal.

Show me why I am "ignorant".

That is why I commented.

You know, to ask questions and obtain information...

Because you've been here since 2007, and supported Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Amash, and Massie in the face of numerous complaints from "conservative" Republicans for votes just like that one. You've seen it play out over and over. You're not just some seeker coming here to get your questions about Ron Paul answered. You should already know the drill. And when you see that there was a bill being sold as an Obamacare repeal and all the establishment Republicans voted for it but our guys voted against it, the first thing that should cross your mind is, "What's in the fine print?" and not, "Justin Amash is a Bolshevik."

And because all the Obamacare repeal attempts, both good and bad, were discussed here ad nauseam when they happened. If Amash had voted against a clean Obamacare repeal in 2017, why would we just now discover that in a "conservative" anti-Amash cut-and-paste of votes where he bucked the party leaders?