Iran Downs $120M US RQ-4 Global Hawk Drone

[UWDude]

What does Iran have to gain from this? The only thing that immediately comes to mind is that they just showed off their missile technology. Proved they could shoot drones (and aircraft) down. They want to give the US military second thoughts about air strikes on Iran.

Neocons could care less. They would be more than happy to see a couple of US pilots shot down. The war lobby made it clear today in the media that it will take US casualties to justify hard core military strikes on Iran. False flag potential high.

A ton to gain. They draw a red line, (it's always been there, Iran does not tolerate invasion of its air space) Same with the sailors they captured. But they also get practice on US targets. And that target practice was good for Iran, bad for America. America found out what it meant to lose, so they got some data, but not working test/solution. Iran had a successful hit. That means more data gleaned, and assuredness it was done right. Iran has been getting practice in Syria.

And don't think the American drone just accidentally veered off into that air space, business as usual. Just a big oopsie.

[Swordsmyth]

Do you think no one profits from Iran's side of the arms race in the middle east?

THERE IT IS... RIGHT THERE. We sell to both sides. China and Russia sells to both sides. It has been happening since the revolutionary war. DuPont sold gunpowder to both sides! Colt sold to both sides, And Exon and Ford sold to both sides.

Nikcers just grabbed the ring...

Iran is geopolitical controlled opposition.

[enhanced_deficit]

Rep. Ilhan Omar: Just as in Iraq, aggressors using illegitimate pretexts to beat drums of war
Ilhan Omar ‏Verified account @IlhanMN
Just as in Iraq, aggressors are using illegitimate pretexts to beat the drums of war. Just as in Iraq, our media is taking these claims at face value. Just as in Iraq, children will die, American lives will be lost, and the world will be less safe. #NoWarWithIran
12:00 PM - 20 Jun 2019

Iran is geopolitical controlled opposition.

Interesting.
What about ISIS, are they also controlled opposition or genuine article?

[Swordsmyth]

Interesting.
What about ISIS, are they also controlled opposition or genuine article?

Controlled opposition.

[goldenequity]

►Senate House Republicans have released a statement calling for a “measured response” to the attack.
The statement read: “Iran directly attacked a US asset over international water. "
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ight-of-hormuz

"There must be a measured response to these actions."

The statement from House Republicans, led by minority leader Kevin McCarthy, comes as the two countries have reached a new low over the last few weeks.

The statement concluded saying: "President Trump and his national security team remain clear-eyed on the situation and what must be done in response to increased Iranian aggression.
"In Congress, we stand ready to support our men and women in uniform, our country, and our allies in the region."



►Iran has put all its military airports and its camps with missile systems on the highest alert in anticipation of a US attack

https://twitter.com/Cukullen/status/1141848353245995008

BREAKING: President Trump approved military strikes against Iran in retaliation for downing an American surveillance drone, but pulled back from launching them on Thursday night after a day of escalating tensions.

Global: MilitaryInfo
►"The operation was underway in its early stages when it was called off, a senior administration official said. Planes were in the air and ships were in position."


Breaking: Trump reportedly calls off military strikes on Iran
http://dlvr.it/R70bRC

Global: MilitaryInfo
►Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Leyte Gulf, have been put on 72-hour standby.

►President Trump approved military strikes against Iran in retaliation for downing an American surveillance drone, but pulled back from launching them on Thursday night after a day of escalating tensions.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/20/w...-us-drone.html

Guy Elster
►BREAKING Trump had approved a military action against Iran, but quickly reversed his decision: NYT

Guy Elster
►NYT: The strikes on Iran were set to take place just before dawn on Friday to minimize risk to the Iranian military or to civilians





►Iran confirms that it possesses undeniable evidence that the American airliner [sic] has penetrated its airspace.

https://twitter.com/uunionnews/statu...35790316040192


►US should stop sending troops to Gulf ‘before it’s too late’ – Moscow — RT World News
https://www.rt.com/news/462293-us-bu...ideast-threat/



Guy Elster
►Iran tells Swiss ambassador that US will be responsible for consequences of any military action against it: Fars

Guy Elster
►BREAKING #Russia accuses US of pushing Iran situation to brink of war: RIA

Guy Elster
►BREAKING Trump delivered a message to Iran via Oman and said "we don't want war but talks", gave Tehran a deadline to start talks: Reuters
(Thug 101)
Guy Elster
►Iran immediate response to #Trump's message was a stark warning over "regional and international" consequences of any US military action

Max Abrahms
Watch: the Iran hawks who pushed tirelessly for war now say they don’t want one.
It’s a hedge so they can pull up some Tweet later on when things go terribly wrong.
They did the same thing with the nuclear deal. Killing it then pretending they didn’t.



Russian Embassy, UK‏
►President Putin: Iran fulfils all obligations in accordance with agreements with @iaeaorg. Sanctions against Tehran are groundless.

[goldenequity]

Here it is:

https://twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/1142021447990353921


Steve Herman
►IRGC commander says Iran refrained from shooting down a US military plane with 35 people on board that was accompanying drone.

Walter Bloomberg‏ @DeItaOne
IRAN'S FOREIGN MINISTRY SPOKESMAN, REACTING TO REMARKS BY U.S. ENVOY ON IRAN:
"TEHRAN "RESPONDS TO DIPLOMACY WITH DIPLOMACY, WAR WITH FIRM DEFENSE"

[goldenequity]

https://twitter.com/PressTV/status/1142113220892778496


Key point in story of Trump calling off strike over downed US drone: senior administration official admits its possible it did violate Iranian airspace.

https://twitter.com/Filomen03258997/...80914149150720

[eleganz]

Early reporting can be foggy, inaccurate or incomplete .. let's wait till all the facts are out :

IRAN DOWNS DRONE
'READY FOR WAR'
DEEP FAKE PHOTO?
PUTIN WARNS USA

https://apnews.com/e4316eb989d5499c9828350de8524963






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Oman Gulf Oil Tankers on Fire, 1 Sunk (Tonkin v2.0?)

Boy do you look dumb after today's developments

[pcosmar]

Boy do you look dumb after today's developments

The Circus Show? The False Flag, or the TDS reactions.(on both sides)

WWIII will get kicked off when it is time,,, this is all the build up and smack talk of Big Time Wrestling..

and it will likely start right there.

[Swordsmyth]

https://twitter.com/PressTV/status/1142113220892778496


Key point in story of Trump calling off strike over downed US drone: senior administration official admits its possible it did violate Iranian airspace.

https://twitter.com/Filomen03258997/...80914149150720

If the anonymous reports are even true that Trump ordered strikes it sounds like he was mislead and when he found out the drone was in Iranian airspace he called the strikes off.

[Dr.3D]

I wonder what the penalty is when an "advisor" gets caught giving the president bogus information.

[Swordsmyth]

I wonder what the penalty is when an "advisor" gets caught giving the president bogus information.

In this case it should be a firing squad for High Treason.

[goldenequity]

U.S. Drone in ‘Full Stealth Mode’ and Actively Spying When Downed by Iranian Defences

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/ar...anian-defences

[Danke]

[pcosmar]

Controlled opposition.

Controlled by who? (US State Dept)

Opposed to Who? (Legitimate local leadership)

[Swordsmyth]

Controlled by who? (US State Dept)

Opposed to Who? (Legitimate local leadership)

Controlled opposition to the western empire and real opposition to its targets.

[pcosmar]

U.S. Drone in ‘Full Stealth Mode’ and Actively Spying When Downed by Iranian Defences

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/ar...anian-defences

Stealth is a Multi-Billion dollar Hoax.. It was defeated before it left the ground..

and Iran has been KNOWN to possess anti-stealth Tech 10 years ago.(or more)

[pcosmar]

Controlled opposition to the western empire and real opposition to its targets.

western empire?

interesting

[Swordsmyth]

western empire?

interesting

What other term would you use? if you think America is the only participant or even the one in charge you are sadly mistaken.

[goldenequity]

FP news agency
BREAKING Trump says signing 'hard-hitting sanctions' on Iran's supreme leader Khameini

Guy Elster
BREAKING US will also sanction FM Zarif later this week: Manuchin

Joyce Karam
US - Iran Standoff Update

• US Sanctions on Khamenei + 8 IRGC Commanders (5 Naval Near Hormuz)
• Trump wants FM Zarif Designated “later this week”
• Pompeo in Saudi, Met King, MBS
• US says either talks or more sanctions; Europeans try diplomacy

https://www.thenational.ae/world/men...menei-1.878622

https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/1143208214252707843

https://twitter.com/guyelster/status...24404362633217


annmarie hordern
Headline of the day:

TRUMP SAYS HE KNOWS IRANIANS FROM NEW YORK, THEY ARE FANTASTIC

[Anti Globalist]

I can't believe we spent $120 million dollars on a drone to begin with.

[pcosmar]

What other term would you use? if you think America is the only participant or even the one in charge you are sadly mistaken.

You talk as if the Corporation is a person.

The Antichrist is a Person,,but he has not been revealed yet...

I expect the role of peacemaker on the brink of Destruction. and Then Ruler of the Global Government.

watching it play out.

[pcosmar]

I can't believe we spent $120 million dollars on a drone to begin with.

I can..

I had a $30k weapon system,, in 76.. 3k$ every round. And that drone caries and fires similar missiles..

[AZJoe]

I think it highly likely the unmanned spy plane was over Iranian airspace. Washington violates national airspace at will. Just look at the track record of drone bombings and assassinations, and Syria. Also, the Iranians almost immediately released a detailed flight path and exact coordinates of the planes location at time of strike. Regardless, the plane turned off its transponder and refused to respond. And this is during a period if heightened hostile acts by teh empire from an economic sanctions blockade to threats, the news reports promising a massive bombardment of Iran limited to specific targets.

Would Washington have allows any Iranian spyplane within 15 mils let along 100 miles of the US coast? Never.

I suspect that the empire bigwigs just never imagined Iran would shoot its high altitude spy plane down, and may not have even thought they could take out an aircraft at that altitude. Iran sent a message and that message was "Don't tread on me!"

[AZJoe]

There Is a Problem With the US Account of the Drone Shootdown
For one thing why was the transponder switched off?

Did somebody want Iran to take the damn thing down?

The Pentagon just held a very short press conference. … Lt General Joseph T. Guastella … made a very short statement. No questions were allowed.

He said that the drone was in international airspace at high attitude and “34 kilometer from the nearest point of the Iranian coast” when it was shot down. That is trickery, or if you will trigonometry. High attitude means that the drone flew at a height of around 60,000+ feet or 20 kilometer. If it would have flown directly over the Iranian coastline it would have been “20 kilometer from the nearest point of the Iranian coast”. …

The Iranian IRGC says that the drone had switched off its transponder shortly after takeoff. A look at the usual live air traffic sites confirms that the drone was not tracked by the civil aviation systems which monitor transponder signals.

The U.S. airforce, which each day flies reconnaissance missions near potentially hostile countries, always keeps its transponders on. The transponder signal demonstrates that it has no hostile intent. It prevents accidental air defense engagements. It also allows it to prove that it stays outside of foreign national airspace.

The U.S. has threatened Iran with war and regime change for some 40 years. There is currently a crisis caused by Trumps violation of the nuclear deal with Iran. …

Iran says that the drone entered Iranian airspace. I find that to be likely correct. CentCom is not known for telling the truth and the list of proven hostile drone entries into Iranian air space is quite long. …

[goldenequity]

There Is a Problem With the US Account of the Drone Shootdown
For one thing why was the transponder switched off?

►►►Did somebody want Iran to take the damn thing down?


The Pentagon just held a very short press conference. … Lt General Joseph T. Guastella … made a very short statement. No questions were allowed.

He said that the drone was in international airspace at high attitude and “34 kilometer from the nearest point of the Iranian coast” when it was shot down. That is trickery, or if you will trigonometry. High attitude means that the drone flew at a height of around 60,000+ feet or 20 kilometer. If it would have flown directly over the Iranian coastline it would have been “20 kilometer from the nearest point of the Iranian coast”. …

The Iranian IRGC says that the drone had switched off its transponder shortly after takeoff. A look at the usual live air traffic sites confirms that the drone was not tracked by the civil aviation systems which monitor transponder signals.

The U.S. airforce, which each day flies reconnaissance missions near potentially hostile countries, always keeps its transponders on. The transponder signal demonstrates that it has no hostile intent. It prevents accidental air defense engagements. It also allows it to prove that it stays outside of foreign national airspace.

The U.S. has threatened Iran with war and regime change for some 40 years. There is currently a crisis caused by Trumps violation of the nuclear deal with Iran. …

Iran says that the drone entered Iranian airspace. I find that to be likely correct. CentCom is not known for telling the truth and the list of proven hostile drone entries into Iranian air space is quite long. …

absoposilootly

[goldenequity]

Guy Elster @guyelster
BREAKING Israel suspects that Russian army is responsible for a recent GPS disturbances in its main airport, media reports. Huge if true


(Right after Russia announced/confirmed that the US drone was in Iranian airspace. )

[goldenequity]

Al-Masdar News @TheArabSource
Israeli planes mysteriously lose GPS signal over Tel Aviv Airport
https://aml.ink/XMiuC

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[Swordsmyth]

Guy Elster @guyelster
BREAKING Israel suspects that Russian army is responsible for a recent GPS disturbances in its main airport, media reports. Huge if true


(Right after Russia announced/confirmed that the US drone was in Iranian airspace. )

Israel says GPS mysteriously disrupted in its airspace but planes secure

Could be GLONASS is being used in the area to jam drones.

That would be a clever way to make a drone operator believe his aircraft was not in restricted airspace.

Good point.

It’s an act of war by Iran! Or it’s Russia, as Zippy says.

Or Israel is doing to themselves and maybe did it to the drone Iran shot down.