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    Sub Saharan Africa plans to move to Portland Maine

    Record number of African migrants coming to Mexican border

    https://apnews.com/429f04067c38428ba0d06749b53e6df0

    By ANDREW SELSKY and PATRICK WHITTLE

    In this June 13, 2019 photo, a migrant woman sleeps on a cot inside the Portland Exposition Building in Portland, Maine. Maine's largest city has repurposed the basketball arena as an emergency shelter in anticipation of hundreds of asylum seekers who are headed to the state from the U.S. southern border. Most are arriving from Congo and Angola. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)

    PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — Undaunted by a dangerous journey over thousands of miles, people fleeing economic hardship and human rights abuses in African countries are coming to the U.S.-Mexico border in unprecedented numbers, surprising Border Patrol agents more accustomed to Spanish-speaking migrants.

    Officials in Texas and even Maine are scrambling to absorb the sharp increase in African migrants. They are coming to America after flying across the Atlantic Ocean to South America and then embarking on an often harrowing overland journey.

    In one recent week, agents in the Border Patrol’s Del Rio sector stopped more than 500 African migrants found walking in separate groups along the arid land after splashing across the Rio Grande, children in tow.

    That is more than double the total of 211 African migrants who were detained by the Border Patrol along the entire 2,000-mile (3,200-kilometer) U.S.-Mexico border in the 2018 fiscal year.

    “We are continuing to see a rise in apprehensions of immigrants from countries not normally encountered in our area,” said Raul Ortiz, head of the U.S. Border Patrol’s Del Rio sector.

    The immigrants in Texas were mostly from the Republic of the Congo, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Angola. Cameroonians have also been traveling up through Mexico and into the U.S. in larger numbers and seeking asylum at ports of entry.

    On recent Saturday in Tijuana, there were 90 Cameroonians lined up to get on a waiting list to request asylum that has swelled to about 7,500 names. Also on the waiting list are Ethiopians, Eritreans, Mauritanians, Sudanese and Congolese.

    Cameroonians generally fly to Ecuador because no visa is required and take about four months to reach Tijuana. They walk for days in Panama through dense jungle, where they are often robbed and held in government-run camps. They come from Cameroon’s English-speaking south with horrifying stories of rape, murder and torture committed since late 2016 by soldiers of the country’s French-speaking majority, which holds power.

    A few days after the big groups of African immigrants were apprehended in Texas, federal officials dropped off dozens of them in San Antonio. Officials in the Texas city sent out a plea for French-speaking volunteers for translating work “and most importantly, making our guests feel welcome.”

    Many were bused to Portland, Maine, about as far as one can get from the Mexican border and still be in the continental United States. Word has spread among migrants that the city of 67,000 is a welcoming place. Somali refugees were resettled in Portland in the 1990s.

    A total of 170 asylum seekers arrived in recent days. Hundreds more are expected in an influx that City Manager Jon Jennings called unprecedented. With one shelter already full, a basketball venue called the Portland Exposition Building was converted into an emergency shelter.

    Portland officials tweeted Thursday that rumors some of the migrants are carrying the Ebola virus “are patently false,” and said that as asylum seekers, they are in the United States legally.

    On Thursday afternoon, families in the Expo chatted in French and Portuguese as children kicked a soccer ball near rows of cots. One of the men, 26-year-old Prince Pombo, described himself as a pro-democracy activist and said he had fled his native country, the Democratic Republic of Congo, because of political oppression. He went to neighboring Angola, then flew to Brazil. There, he met a local woman and they had a baby they named Heaven. Now 16-months old, she giggled as she played with her mother in the Expo. Pombo said his journey from Congo to America took three years.

    More migrants are on the way. Mexico is on pace to triple the number of African immigrants it is processing this year, up from 2,100 in 2017.

    Mbi Deric Ambi, from the English-speaking part of Cameroon, is among them. In a recent interview in the southern Mexican city of Tapachula, Ambi said he was waiting for a document from the Mexican authorities that would allow him to proceed north to the U.S. He traveled overland through South and Central America after flying to Ecuador.

    Human Rights Watch says 1,800 people have been killed and half a million have fled their homes in the Anglophone regions of Cameroon since late 2016. A United Nations official says 4.3 million people need humanitarian assistance.

    “We don’t have jobs in the English part, the educational system is poor, they are looking at us as dogs,” Ambi said as a crowd of migrants jostled outside an immigration center in Tapachula, waiting for their names to be called to collect their travel document. Ambi has been waiting every morning for six weeks.

    “We just have to be patient, because there is nothing we can do,” he said.

    The explosion in immigration to the United States from sub-Saharan Africa coincides with a steep drop in the migration flow across the Mediterranean to Europe after European countries and two main embarkation points — Turkey and Libya — decided to crack down. From Jan. 1 to June 12, only 24,600 migrants arrived in Europe by sea, compared to 99,600 over the same period in 2017, according to the International Organization for Migration.

    But IOM spokesman Joel Millman doubts the migrant path for Africans has swung over from Europe to America.

    Pombo, who was a teacher in Congo, learned in an internet search and by asking around that Portland is good place for migrants. He said his next step is to start rebuilding a life for himself and his family.

    “I’d like to feel safe. I’d like to build a decent life,” he said. “I need to start again.”



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    Sub Saharan Africa plans to move to Portland Maine
    The entire part of the continent?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
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    At least they are not headed to Omaha, I think they are full.
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    They come from Cameroon’s English-speaking south with horrifying stories of rape, murder and torture committed since late 2016 by soldiers of the country’s French-speaking majority, which holds power.
    And just wait until they hold power over whitey in his own land.


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    I’m not saying it’s good for them to come here. But I think you will be able to compare these folks to the ones in the caravans and see which are the real refugees.
    Do something Dodgers.

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    Rumors are portland is overwhelmed and sending them to san antonio nowwho will be soon directing them elsewhere . I am thinking toronto works . As Danke pointed out Omaha , Minneapolis , chicago , detroit do not need them and they are not welcome here so .....
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The entire part of the continent?
    Sure, why not?

    Once word gets out that we are too weak, too full of doubt, too poisoned to defend ourselves.

    The immigrants in Texas were mostly from the Republic of the Congo, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Angola. Cameroonians have also been traveling up through Mexico and into the U.S. in larger numbers and seeking asylum at ports of entry.

    On recent Saturday in Tijuana, there were 90 Cameroonians lined up to get on a waiting list to request asylum that has swelled to about 7,500 names. Also on the waiting list are Ethiopians, Eritreans, Mauritanians, Sudanese and Congolese.
    I've been to lot of those places...I wouldn't send a dog to live there.



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    If a stop isn't put to this it will end in race wars and people whose families have been Americans for many generations will be driven out because of the color of their skin.
    That's human nature and if you don't like that idea (as I don't) then you don't back people into a corner where they will turn feral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And just wait until they hold power over whitey in his own land.

    Whoa, I think the guy in the red cap is my cousin. I am going to text him and ask him what he is doing giving our resident patriot a scare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Whoa, I think the guy in the red cap is my cousin. I am going to text him and ask him what he is doing giving our resident patriot a scare.
    I figured as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I’m not saying it’s good for them to come here. But I think you will be able to compare these folks to the ones in the caravans and see which are the real refugees.
    I don't give a $#@!. They want freedom? Stay the $#@! in your own country and fight for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I don't give a $#@!. They want freedom? Stay the $#@! in your own country and fight for it.
    They don't want freedom, they want free stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They don't want freedom, they want free stuff.
    How do u know that? I know these people and I know what they want. Heck, @Danke also knows what they want. Ask him, he would tell you what it they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    How do u know that? I know these people and I know what they want. Heck, @Danke also knows what they want. Ask him, he would tell you what it they want.

    They want something I don't want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    How do u know that? I know these people and I know what they want. Heck, @Danke also knows what they want. Ask him, he would tell you what it they want.
    We see their behavior after they get here.
    We also see their behavior in their homelands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    They want something I don't want.
    Oh come on Danke, you know what I am talking about. Just say, SS needs to know what it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We see their behavior after they get here.
    We also see their behavior in their homelands.
    By default, everybody likes free stuff but what behaviour in their homeland says they are coming here for free stuff?
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    By default, everybody likes free stuff but what behaviour in their homeland says they are coming here for free stuff?
    The socialism.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    How do u know that? I know these people and I know what they want. Heck, @Danke also knows what they want. Ask him, he would tell you what it they want.
    There, he met a local woman and they had a baby they named Heaven. Now 16-months old, she giggled as she played with her mother in the Expo. Pombo said his journey from Congo to America took three years.
    Because that level of short sighted, hand to mouth behavior...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The socialism.
    There is a slight difference big govt and socialism. We have mostly big govt in many African countries and very little of socialism. So that is not a good example, try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    There is a slight difference big govt and socialism. We have mostly big govt in many African countries and very little of socialism. So that is not a good example, try again.
    Just because there isn't much wealth to "share" doesn't change the philosophy.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Just because there isn't much wealth to "share" doesn't change the philosophy.
    There is a super rich class in Nigeria, they for one can tax the hell out of these group and distribute the gains to the population, the oil companies can be nationalized also and the profits used to benefit the masses. If they were that much of a socialist, they would have enacted high taxes and nationalized their mineral sectors. But non of that is happening.
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    There is a super rich class in Nigeria, they for one can tax the hell out of these group and distribute the gains to the population, the oil companies can be nationalized also and the profits used to benefit the masses. If they were that much of a socialist, they would have enacted high taxes and nationalized their mineral sectors. But non of that is happening.
    It has happened in other African countries.
    And we see how they act when they get to Europe or America.
    They come here for the free stuff.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It has happened in other African countries.
    And we see how they act when they get to Europe or America.
    They come here for the free stuff.
    It happened? like in the past?
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    It happened? like in the past?
    Have you heard of S. Africa?
    It's happening there right now.

    And the past matters, the countries where it happened in the past are still communist/socialist.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Have you heard of S. Africa?
    It's happening there right now.

    And the past matters, the countries where it happened in the past are still communist/socialist.
    South African mineral industry is still very much in private hand. But the farm land issues is complicated seeing as some people believe it was stolen from the natives. But yea, if the countries that tried redistribution and welfarism are still socialist and communist now, how come they are not confiscating the riches of the super wealthy and big corporations and distributing it to the poor?
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    South African mineral industry is still very much in private hand. But the farm land issues is complicated seeing as some people believe it was stolen from the natives. But yea, if the countries that tried redistribution and welfarism are still socialist and communist now, how come they are not confiscating the riches of the super wealthy and big corporations and distributing it to the poor?
    Communists are always hypocrites but that doesn't change the philosophy they teach their people in order to keep power.

    S. Africa will get around to stealing more than just farmland as it destroys its economy.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Communists are always hypocrites but that doesn't change the philosophy they teach their people in order to keep power.

    S. Africa will get around to stealing more than just farmland as it destroys its economy.
    I have to live with the new fact that these hypocrite communists preach it and don't practice it. Luckily for all of us, the practice is the one that counts.

    Question for u, would these people be any more welcomed if there were true capitalist? if the answer is no, then why does it matter what they are? "the country is full and we don't need any more disease carrying, violent, matchete carrying, low IQ Africans."
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I have to live with the new fact that these hypocrite communists preach it and don't practice it. Luckily for all of us, the practice is the one that counts.
    Their practice is bad enough whether it is equal to their rhetoric or not, I don't want to live in the USSR whether they didn't practice "real communism" or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Question for u, would these people be any more welcomed if there were true capitalist? if the answer is no, then why does it matter what they are? "the country is full and we don't need any more disease carrying, violent, matchete carrying, low IQ Africans."
    If they were equal to or superior to Americans in liberty culture I might welcome them unless they were significantly worse than Americans about other important factors like violent crime (a small enough difference could actually not matter if they were more liberty loving than the average American because they would help us to fix our weapons laws), those that bring a significant health risk like those from the area around the ebola outbreak would need to be held in quarantine for a sufficient amount of time as we discussed in another thread.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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