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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You just can't stand the idea of keeping the communist hordes out.
    Why is that?
    You want to keep out foreign labor to maintain domestic wages, don't you?



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    You want to keep out foreign labor to maintain domestic wages, don't you?
    I want to keep out excessive numbers of foreign communists, if that has the side effects of insulating against damaging shocks to the labor market and of helping keep the middle and working class from having zero leverage in the labor market so that wealth and political power is distributed in a balanced and equitable manner then that is a bonus.

    I don't want the government trying to mange the labor pool or manufacturing, but the immigration restrictions necessary to maintain liberty like the moderate tariffs that are the best form of taxation should be good enough without involving a deliberate attempt to manipulate the marketplace on purpose and that just shows that correct policy is beneficial in ways not even related to its purpose.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You just can't stand the idea of keeping the communist hordes out.
    Why is that?
    You just can't stand a free market, people not borne here who work harder than lazy natives.

    They are employed because they are useful employees, contra the glorious welfare people born here.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    You just can't stand a free market, people not borne here who work harder than lazy natives.
    I can stand the free market just fine, that's why I want to keep out those who will finish it off for generations to come.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I can stand the free market just fine
    The main purpose of anti-immigration activity is to protect American labor from competition.

    that's why I want to keep out those who will finish it off for generations to come.
    Just vote for more welfare for Americans; at least that would be honest.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    The main purpose of anti-immigration activity is to protect American labor from competition.
    No.



    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Just vote for more welfare for Americans; at least that would be honest.
    I'm sure that makes sense to you but it doesn't make any more sense than importing millions of communists to anyone who doesn't want communism.
    It's beginning to look like you are just another crypto-communist.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    So, 30% of Americans want to restrict the supply of labor to raise their own wages.

    The teamsters are heroes...

    ...until the whole country looks like Detroit.
    Well when that happens to America and some parts of Europe it would only prove that some right wingers that they were right.

  10. #38
    A May poll released on June 4 by Cygnal shows that almost 30 percent of Americans surveyed want to halt all immigration to the United States, both legal and illegal.
    Those would probably be the people, of all races and ethnicities, that have been directly effected by mass immigration. Those not on the front lines have not lived the reality.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  11. #39
    A May poll released on June 4 by Cygnal shows that almost 30 percent of Americans surveyed want to halt all immigration to the United States, both legal and illegal.
    Those would probably be the people, of all races and ethnicities, that have been directly effected by mass immigration. Those not on the front lines have not lived the reality.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    You want to keep out foreign labor to maintain domestic wages, don't you?
    I don't want New Kinshasa in my back yard.

    I don't want my family locked out of the nation that we built.

    I don't want dead bodies decomposing in the streets from some vile plague.

    I don't want beheaded Cartel gangsters hung from bridge overpasses.

    I don't want to be surrounded by a sea of polyglot humanity that is utterly unlike me, and despises me.

    $#@! your cheap wages so Paco can mow your lawn or slaughter your pigs...you go $#@!ing move wherever and take advantage of it.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I don't want New Kinshasa in my back yard.

    I don't want my family locked out of the nation that we built.

    I don't want dead bodies decomposing in the streets from some vile plague.

    I don't want beheaded Cartel gangsters hung from bridge overpasses.

    I don't want to be surrounded by a sea of polyglot humanity that is utterly unlike me, and despises me.

    $#@! your cheap wages so Paco can mow your lawn or slaughter your pigs...you go $#@!ing move wherever and take advantage of it.
    You should be more welcoming to the newcomers. Arrest this man!

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    You just can't stand a free market, people not borne here who work harder than lazy natives.

    They are employed because they are useful employees, contra the glorious welfare people born here.
    When was the last time you worked hard?

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    You should be more welcoming to the newcomers. Arrest this man!
    $#@! me...it's "Camp of the Saints" in real life...I mean word for word sometimes...
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    $#@! me...it's "Camp of the Saints" in real life...I mean word for word sometimes...
    I am sorry to hear that. How often do you get $#@!ed?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fnv_m7lIRk

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    I am sorry to hear that. How often do you get $#@!ed?
    Depends...
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    No, that's Brazilian Nurses.
    Like these two sweethearts?

    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I can stand the free market just fine, that's why I want to keep out those who will finish it off for generations to come.
    Restricting the free flow of labor is ant- free market. In a free market, both capital and labor are free to move to where they are most needed.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Restricting the free flow of labor is ant- free market. In a free market, both capital and labor are free to move to where they are most needed.
    Restricting tyrants is the only way to have freedom, restricting communists is the only way to have a free market.

    You can't have a global free market until everyone on the globe embraces free markets, a national free market is good enough until that happens.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Well when that happens to America and some parts of Europe it would only prove that some right wingers that they were right.
    LOL, it would be the realization of the "right wing" (i.e. anti-capitalist, nationalist) dream.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I don't want New Kinshasa in my back yard.

    I don't want my family locked out of the nation that we built.

    I don't want dead bodies decomposing in the streets from some vile plague.

    I don't want beheaded Cartel gangsters hung from bridge overpasses.

    I don't want to be surrounded by a sea of polyglot humanity that is utterly unlike me, and despises me.

    $#@! your cheap wages so Paco can mow your lawn or slaughter your pigs...you go $#@!ing move wherever and take advantage of it.
    Then you should probably stop voting for socialists like Donald Trump.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    You just can't stand a free market, people not borne here who work harder than lazy natives.

    They are employed because they are useful employees, contra the glorious welfare people born here.
    I've just had enough of incompetent morons calling me lazy.

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