Propaganda Is The Root Of All Our Problems

[Danke]

Ban. I’m closing this thread.

Not before I do.

[ATruepatriot]

Not before I do.

[ATruepatriot]

[Danke]

Enjoy your infraction, another one and you are gone.

[ATruepatriot]

Enjoy your infraction, another one and you are gone.

I was trying to diffuse with some humor. I did not mean to offend....

[ATruepatriot]

Enjoy your infraction, another one and you are gone.

Apparently not funny, my mistake. All you have to do is ask and I will book it out of here on my own man.

[ATruepatriot]

Enjoy your infraction, another one and you are gone.

I like really you by the way... Damned shame to have you decide to chest bump over silly $#@!...

[Danke]

I was trying to diffuse with some humor. I did not mean to offend....

Too late, and I have CCed: @TheTexan

No turning back now.

[ATruepatriot]

Too late, and I have CCed: @TheTexan

No turning back now.

Tattle teller...

[TheTexan]

Too late, and I have CCed: @TheTexan

No turning back now.

Thanks for the heads up.

I'm investigating the dispute and will provide a report to the mods to recommend an appropriate course of action.

[ATruepatriot]

Thanks for the heads up.

I'm investigating the dispute and will provide a report to the mods to recommend an appropriate course of action.

Well at least you will take the time to investigate. Better than most platforms, Most platforms you are just guilty because one person said so with no proof or basis. Cool $#@! there man...

Righteous Bro...

[ATruepatriot]

Thanks for the heads up.

I'm investigating the dispute and will provide a report to the mods to recommend an appropriate course of action.

While you do that, I'm off to bed. Please have a great evening...

[UWDude]

So then why is it allowed to continue for 36+ posts a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year?

Look at the libertarians, unable to cope with a free market of ideas, so they call for bannings, because they disagree.

ZippyJuan is still here.
I never called for his ban.

Giant walls of texts of the losers, crying about how its the other side who fell for the propaganda.
Ye, who are almighty, all-knowing. Who croon out Ron Paul's name in a frenzy of purity virtue signalling, yet call for control and fascism on an internet forum, where nothing but pixels on a screen and words exist. All talk, no walk. Every time.

And you fools talk to me like you have the solutions and path to freedom in the real world? You can't even handle freedom in the fake world.

Propaganda is not the root of all your problems. The root of all your problems is YOU, YOUR attitudes, and your SLIMY techniques of persuasion.
Tons of people here can't speak PLAINLY and state LOUDLY what they believe. INSTEAD, they try to argue they have the same position as Ron Paul, no matter how far away from him their true intentions and beliefs are.

As if.

[Anti Federalist]

Here, anyone critical of trump is called a "socialist", "demoncrat", communist", etc.

Since you have called me out, if not by name, by deed, please show me where I have done that...I may have...but it's not my usual style at all.

Being mildly supportive of Trump when he does something right, like rescind fatwas against hunting on certain federal lands, does not make me a Trumphumper.

Remember that that $1.5million was just for one propaganda campaign concerning one issue. How much is the government spending to target activists here? RPF is (or was, before this propaganda campaign started) full of activists that presented a threat to TPTB on a wide scope of issues, rather than just one. How many activists here have been discouraged and left due to the constant barrage of attacks? How many more have been suckered in by the propaganda? One member here has spent over a decade railing against the police state and now advocates for having the government police culture, and that's just one example.

So, I've been "suckered" huh?

Funny, when I made myself physically ill combing through police abuse stories day in and day out to raise awareness about that, I was "suckered" as well...my feeble brain was twisted by anti police propaganda and I was nothing but a cop basher. (Yes, I was accused of that, more than once).

Get over yourself...I did...those "activists" you mentioned have all moved on...many had no interest in freedom whatsoever, I see it every day in NH where ex-Ron Paul people are now Feeling the Bern. They just wanted to be contrary and anti-establishment.

Has anyone else wondered how that 36+ posts a day poster is able to come up with so many obscure articles that lionize trump and his policies, and smear those that are a threat to trump / TPTB? An excellent recent example of this is the propaganda campaign against Amash, and the repeated posting of some obscure editorial (which means it's one person's opinion) and some sort of challenge to refute it. It's obvious that the propaganda being pushed here is a team effort, since no one person acting alone would have time to find and read all those obscure sources, have any time with friends and family, and have time to make a living, and still manage to make 36+ posts a day here, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.

I know people that FedBook 10 times that amount, they spend every waking minute furiously finger $#@!ing a stupidphone.

I have a ton of material here because, A - I don't FedBook or $#@!ter or SnapFlat or Disqus or whatever, so therefore this has been my prime ground for my mental droppings for over ten years now. B - I use this as my primary news source. C - My work and home life require plenty of time behind a screen, sadly.

I can't speak for anybody else, but, rest assured, I am not in the employ of the minions of Trump.

And here is the underlying goal. The evidence is readily obvious here, just look at how things have changed in the last 3 years with those 36+ posts a day. Immigration has always been debated here from the very beginning of RPF, between the open and closed border type libertarians. But that debate and discussion has always been about how open or closed the borders are, never about immigrants themselves, and there was never any talk about turning our country into east germany or north korea to implement immigration policy. It would have been unthinkable 3 years ago that people would be arguing for voter suppression here, any discussion on this topic was always about how those voting for Ron Paul were being suppressed. And those are just two recent examples of how much effect the propaganda has had here.

I have always been a closed borders, blood and soil, pro-tariff, America First, sort of guy. I supported Pat Buchanan in all his bids for the presidency as a republican. I did not in 2000 because of that Reform Party nonsense, I supported Harry Browne instead.

I've made my position clear on those things, and then, in the spirit of "getting along" as we tried to pull differing factions together under a broad liberty banner, I kept quiet.

Ron's position was close enough for me: bring the troops home, end the foreign wars and use them to defend OUR border, instead of Trashcanistan's

So, given that this propaganda here and it's effects is so incredibly obvious, my question is this: Why do the site owners and mods allow it to continue? We are told that it is somehow necessary to keep our debating skills sharp. I call BS. It's obvious that most of the moderator staff quit over some sort of directive to allow the propaganda and ignore the blatent violations of forum rules by that person making 36+ posts a day. Just about all of those older mods aren't even here anymore, and any former mods still active here have only given vague evasions of the question when asked privately why they quit their position as moderators here. How does being outshouted by 36+ posts a day keep anyone's debating skills sharp? What possible value does it hold to debate anyone who is paid to simply outshout you and call you names? I feel very strongly that the site owners have a LOT of explaning to do. There isn't any rational justification for allowing this propaganda here, and it's obvious that it is being fully sanctioned by the site owners. The question is, WHY? Why would the very owners of RPF sell out Ron Paul and his supporters like this? It sure isn't to better anyone's debating skills.

How much money have you donated/spent over the years to keep RPF going?

I know I have spent a good deal.

I do not want anyone banned...not Zippy or Sword or Fire11 or you.

Rational, thinking people can change their minds, they can assess a situation that has changed and modify or alter their ideas or plans or courses of action as needed.

That is all that has happened to me: I have taken a long, cold, hard and critical look at what the political opposition to my ideas, and my physical person, are now advocating.

"No Borders, No Walls, No USA At All"...well, that's not for me...for all my complaining and all my bitching about legitimate gripes, there is still some good worth defending.

I do not want to live in New Kinshasa.

I have the right to advocate for policies and a community that agrees with that and to defend myself and my family and my posterity against an opposition that, at best, wants me locked out of a voice in how things will be run, and at worse, wants me exterminated.

That is what became clear to me...not some idiotic propaganda conspiracy that has me on Trump's payroll to post comments on an insignificant message board.

People can disagree or come to different conclusions on things....that's freedom.

Get a $#@!ing grip, for Christ's sake.

[Anti Federalist]

Eh?

[Ender]

Look at the libertarians, unable to cope with a free market of ideas, so they call for bannings, because they disagree.

ZippyJuan is still here.
I never called for his ban.

Giant walls of texts of the losers, crying about how its the other side who fell for the propaganda.
Ye, who are almighty, all-knowing. Who croon out Ron Paul's name in a frenzy of purity virtue signalling, yet call for control and fascism on an internet forum, where nothing but pixels on a screen and words exist. All talk, no walk. Every time.

And you fools talk to me like you have the solutions and path to freedom in the real world? You can't even handle freedom in the fake world.

Propaganda is not the root of all your problems. The root of all your problems is YOU, YOUR attitudes, and your SLIMY techniques of persuasion.
Tons of people here can't speak PLAINLY and state LOUDLY what they believe. INSTEAD, they try to argue they have the same position as Ron Paul, no matter how far away from him their true intentions and beliefs are.

As if.

Zippy doesn't call people names & throw out continuous insults to any that disagree with him.

[Ender]

Since you have called me out, if not by name, by deed, please show me where I have done that...I may have...but it's not my usual style at all.

Being mildly supportive of Trump when he does something right, like rescind fatwas against hunting on certain federal lands, does not make me a Trumphumper.



So, I've been "suckered" huh?

Funny, when I made myself physically ill combing through police abuse stories day in and day out to raise awareness about that, I was "suckered" as well...my feeble brain was twisted by anti police propaganda and I was nothing but a cop basher. (Yes, I was accused of that, more than once).

Get over yourself...I did...those "activists" you mentioned have all moved on...many had no interest in freedom whatsoever, I see it every day in NH where ex-Ron Paul people are now Feeling the Bern. They just wanted to be contrary and anti-establishment.



I know people that FedBook 10 times that amount, they spend every waking minute furiously finger $#@!ing a stupidphone.

I have a ton of material here because, A - I don't FedBook or $#@!ter or SnapFlat or Disqus or whatever, so therefore this has been my prime ground for my mental droppings for over ten years now. B - I use this as my primary news source. C - My work and home life require plenty of time behind a screen, sadly.

I can't speak for anybody else, but, rest assured, I am not in the employ of the minions of Trump.



I have always been a closed borders, blood and soil, pro-tariff, America First, sort of guy. I supported Pat Buchanan in all his bids for the presidency as a republican. I did not in 2000 because of that Reform Party nonsense, I supported Harry Browne instead.

I've made my position clear on those things, and then, in the spirit of "getting along" as we tried to pull differing factions together under a broad liberty banner, I kept quiet.

Ron's position was close enough for me: bring the troops home, end the foreign wars and use them to defend OUR border, instead of Trashcanistan's



How much money have you donated/spent over the years to keep RPF going?

I know I have spent a good deal.

I do not want anyone banned...not Zippy or Sword or Fire11 or you.

Rational, thinking people can change their minds, they can assess a situation that has changed and modify or alter their ideas or plans or courses of action as needed.

That is all that has happened to me: I have taken a long, cold, hard and critical look at what the political opposition to my ideas, and my physical person, are now advocating.

"No Borders, No Walls, No USA At All"...well, that's not for me...for all my complaining and all my bitching about legitimate gripes, there is still some good worth defending.

I do not want to live in New Kinshasa.

I have the right to advocate for policies and a community that agrees with that and to defend myself and my family and my posterity against an opposition that, at best, wants me locked out of a voice in how things will be run, and at worse, wants me exterminated.

That is what became clear to me...not some idiotic propaganda conspiracy that has me on Trump's payroll to post comments on an insignificant message board.

People can disagree or come to different conclusions on things....that's freedom.

Get a $#@!ing grip, for Christ's sake.

I don't think invisible's post was about you. We don't always agree but we can always have reasonable dialog & that is really refreshing.

It's the 24/7 posters that continually use personal insults & name-calling, to justify themselves, that is starting to infuriate many here.

[shakey1]

[Anti Federalist]

I don't think invisible's post was about you. We don't always agree but we can always have reasonable dialog & that is really refreshing.

It's the 24/7 posters that continually use personal insults & name-calling, to justify themselves, that is starting to infuriate many here.

I picked up on this quote:

One member here has spent over a decade railing against the police state and now advocates for having the government police culture

I'm pretty sure he means me...of course he's missing the point totally, but I'm not going to explain myself yet again.

[UWDude]

Zippy doesn't call people names & throw out continuous insults to any that disagree with him.

neither does swordsmyth.


And spare me the "omg insults"
I am not a fool, who thinks there is a difference between "you are stupid" and "people that think like you are stupid". There is no difference. Same with calling people childish, or calling their worldviews childish, ignorant, or whatever else.

same with saying people have "fallen for the propaganda" or are "cultists" or any other of those insults that some how are not considered insults according to some forum rules, but not others. It is all a bunch of selective enforcement mod fodder.

And I also don't suffer fools who claim to be all about freedom and liberty, when they pronounce actions of their personal lives that directly contradict their moral posturing and claims of belief. I'll hit them there every time.

And finally, freedom of speech covers personal insults as well. Sorry you hate freedom.

[Ender]

neither does swordsmyth.


And spare me the "omg insults"
I am not a fool, who thinks there is a difference between "you are stupid" and "people that think like you are stupid". There is no difference. Same with calling people childish, or calling their worldviews childish, ignorant, or whatever else.

same with saying people have "fallen for the propaganda" or are "cultists" or any other of those insults that some how are not considered insults according to some forum rules, but not others. It is all a bunch of selective enforcement mod fodder.

And I also don't suffer fools who claim to be all about freedom and liberty, when they pronounce actions of their personal lives that directly contradict their moral posturing and claims of belief. I'll hit them there every time.

And finally, freedom of speech covers personal insults as well. Sorry you hate freedom.

The only thing I hate is stupidity.

[UWDude]

The only thing I hate is stupidity.

what you sayin bruh? You sayin Im stupid?

hey everybody, lets play watch the weasel, where we watch a weasel try to claim that he wasnt trying to insult me!

[UWDude]

The only thing I hate is stupidity.

Aren't you one of the stupid people that actually fell for the piss poor acting stunts of Gloria Allred's little victims of "Trumps sexual aasaults", complete withe the pre-written statements and fake tears.

And then you tried to trot out some family members trauma, as if it were your own, and as if that gave you the insight to tell how truthful Alred's lying whores were?

[Ender]

Aren't you one of the stupid people that actually fell for the piss poor acting stunts of Gloria Allred's little victims of "Trumps sexual aasaults", complete withe the pre-written statements and fake tears.

And then you tried to trot out some family members trauma, as if it were your own, and as if that gave you the insight to tell how truthful Alred's lying whores were?

Oh, poor widdo baby- everybody need's to believe everything you & Trump say. Boo. Hoo.

[UWDude]

Aren't you one of the stupid people that actually fell for the piss poor acting stunts of Gloria Allred's little victims of "Trumps sexual aasaults", complete withe the pre-written statements and fake tears.

And then you tried to trot out some family members trauma, as if it were your own, and as if that gave you the insight to tell how truthful Alred's lying whores were?

Hey @Ender

since you are the expert on people who tell the truth about sexual assault and violence (after all you did let us all know something similar did happen to a family member of yours)

Can you tell me if this lady is telling the truth?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8dxttQUvnI

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

They keep changing the definition of stuff. Sexual assault used to mean something, now brushing up against someone's rump on accident is rape.