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    PA Governor Pushes for State Police Protection Fee

    HARRISBURG, Pa. -- Governor Tom Wolf calls it a crisis and says it needs to end.

    The governor wants communities without police departments to start paying what he calls protection fees.

    These communities are now patrolled by state police, and the governor says they are a growing burden on all taxpayers in Pennsylvania.

    This is the second year Wolf is trying to get a so-called protection fee from communities that rely on state police.

    This time, the governor hopes more Republican lawmakers change their minds.

    The governor announced two bills, one in the House and one in the Senate, that would require people living in areas covered solely by state police to pay a protection fee.

    "Right now, some municipalities are not paying their fair share," said Wolf.

    According to Wolf, 78 percent of Pennsylvania's population live in communities that have city or community police agencies. He says the other 22 percent get an unfair break.

    "Their neighbors that rely on state police are enjoying lower local taxes, folks in those municipalities because they refuse to start or they even disbanded their local police departments."

    The bills now being considered by state lawmakers would make communities without police forces pay a protection fee, with larger communities paying more per person.

    The plan expects to raise $100 million of the $600 million now diverted from state highway funds to pay for Pennsylvania State Police coverage in places with no police department.

    "Just think of the miles of roadways we could have repaired. Think of the potholes we could have filled. Think of the bridges we could have fixed," the governor said.

    A spokesman for the Republican party in the State House says, "nothing has drastically changed," since the lawmakers rejected a similar proposal last year.

    The Democrat sponsoring the bill hopes people in communities whose taxes funded local police departments take a close look at neighbors that get do get state police protection.

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    NICE COMMUNITY YA GOT THERE...

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    As much as people complain about speeding tickets, driving with a suspended license, parking violations because there is nowhere to park, jay walking fines, etc............ they will LOVE LOVE LOVE this fantastic idea!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post

    Wait. Where are @Swordsmyth and @RestorationOfLiberty ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
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    "Just think of the miles of roadways we could have repaired. Think of the potholes we could have filled. Think of the bridges we could have fixed," the governor said.
    Do it for the roads!!
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    There's nothing wrong with communities paying for their own policing, contra being subsidized by other communities. The problem is that most (not all) of that policing is unnecessary to begin with (as is most of the government's spending in general, which should be cut to finance actually necessary services before raising taxes). I'll wager that, if this "fee" goes into effect, the taxes on the communities currently doing the subsidizing won't drop; the state will still collect that money and just find another way to spend it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    There's nothing wrong with communities paying for their own policing, contra being subsidized by other communities.
    There is if it's not voluntary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kona View Post
    There is if it's not voluntary.
    + Rep
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    I use roughly 18 miles of highway on a semi regular basis . I would put something in the tip jar to eliminate state police from my road .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by kona View Post
    There is if it's not voluntary.
    It's involuntary in both cases.
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