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    Transgender targets Masterpiece Cakeshop owner Jack Phillips with ANOTHER lawsuit

    Masterpiece Cakeshop owner Jack Phillips is being sued yet again.

    Attorneys for Autumn Scardina, a transgender woman, filed a lawsuit in state court last Wednesday alleging Phillips discriminated against their client and engaged in deceptive and unfair trade practices.

    The lawyers — Paula Greisen and John McHugh — claim that "Masterpiece Cakeshop, at the direction of Phillips, refused to sell a birthday cake to Ms. Scardina because of her status as a transgender woman."
    They further allege Phillips engaged in illegal trade practices because his shop "widely publicized that they would sell baked goods, including birthday cakes, to the public, including the LGBT community," but allegedly refused to provide Scardina with a cake only after learning that she is transgender.


    Scardina is the same person who has filed previous discrimination complaints against Phillips. In fact, the state dropped one complaint in March in which Phillips refused to bake a cake celebrating Scardina's gender transition. In exchange, Phillips also dropped a religious discrimination complaint against the state.



    The cake in question now is a pink cake with blue frosting, a design Scardina told the cakeshop "had personal significance for her because it reflects her status as a transgender female."
    Still, Scardina's motive is clear: She is removing the Civil Rights Commission from the equation in order to force the judicial system to determine whether Phillips violated Colorado law.
    "By filing separately, we are taking the state out of the equation," Greisen told Colorado Public Radio. "I fully believe we will win in the state courts ... and I don't believe there is any First Amendment or religious implications that would allow them to discriminate."
    "We simply want the law to be enforced," Greisen claimed. "Because if not, you allow a business to send a message: go ahead, refuse service to these people, it's OK, when the citizens of Colorado have said it's not."
    Phillips believes Scardina has long targeted his shop with requests she knows violate his religious beliefs in order to harass him. She even once requested a cake to celebrate Satan that featured "a large figure of Satan, licking a 9" black Dildo."


    Jim Campbell, senior counsel at Alliance Defending Freedom, the nonprofit Christian legal group that represents Phillips, called Scardina's latest actions "yet another desperate attempt to harass" Phillips.
    "A new lawsuit has been filed against Masterpiece Cakeshop that appears to largely rehash old claims. The State of Colorado abandoned similar ones just a few months ago. So this latest attack by Autumn Scardina looks like yet another desperate attempt to harass cake artist Jack Phillips. And it stumbles over the one detail that matters most: Jack serves everyone; he just cannot express all messages through his custom cakes," he said.
    Scardina is requesting a jury trial.

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/master...nation-lawsuit
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    You know why don't these lgbt types of people move into their LGBT communities with their own Cakeshops etc?
    Is that a bit hard to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    You know why don't these lgbt types of people move into their LGBT communities with their own Cakeshops etc?
    Is that a bit hard to do?
    Because it isn't about getting a cake at all. It is about forcing their perversions onto people they don't like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Because it isn't about getting a cake at all. It is about forcing their perversions onto people they don't like.
    That was always the goal and it always will be unless they are driven back into the closet culturally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Because it isn't about getting a cake at all. It is about forcing their perversions onto people they don't like.
    Or to destroy anyone who doesn’t agree with them.
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    When facebook, twitter, and youtube no longer censor the news and speech I want to hear I will stand for your right to go to a particular baker and force them to make you a cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    You know why don't these lgbt types of people move into their LGBT communities with their own Cakeshops etc?
    Is that a bit hard to do?
    For Variety Reasons. They get tired of Fruit Cakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    For Variety Reasons. They get tired of Fruit Cakes.

    And fudge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Because it isn't about getting a cake at all. It is about forcing their perversions onto people they don't like.
    Exactly. If I were the baker, I would tell him I would bake the cake for 5 million dollars.
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    They won't stop until all cakeshops bow down to the LBGT communities will.
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    It's interesting how they just go after Christians. They aren't harrassing Muslim bakers, which would tell them no too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Exactly. If I were the baker, I would tell him I would bake the cake for 5 million dollars.
    we call that a " no quote" its an industry term...
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    It's interesting how they just go after Christians. They aren't harrassing Muslim bakers, which would tell them no too.
    Silly girl!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Silly girl!

    Christians aren't a protected class and white Christian family men are the sworn enemy...
    Oh I know, just bringing out the point that some people just don't get. I know you get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Because it isn't about getting a cake at all. It is about forcing their perversions onto people they don't like.
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    Or to destroy anyone who doesn’t agree with them.
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    MAGA tranny Info Wars trotskite cake fans. Bake ze cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    MAGA tranny Info Wars trotskite cake fans. Bake ze cake.

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    Quick question. Please don't cheat. Can you pick which one is transgender?





    Here's the reason I asked. I looked up this Autumn Scardina woman and...she's pretty passable to me on first glance. Which begs the question, did she go into the cake shop and ask for a pink cake, or did she go into a cake shop and say "I'm a trangender woman and I demand that you bake me a pink cake?" Because...if the goal is to be seen as a woman...and if you have to have the government make other people see you as a woman...then haven't you failed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Here's the reason I asked. I looked up this Autumn Scardina woman and...she's pretty passable to me on first glance. Which begs the question, did she go into the cake shop and ask for a pink cake, or did she go into a cake shop and say "I'm a trangender woman and I demand that you bake me a pink cake?" Because...if the goal is to be seen as a woman...and if you have to have the government make other people see you as a woman...then haven't you failed?
    The cake in question now is a pink cake with blue frosting, a design Scardina told the cakeshop "had personal significance for her because it reflects her status as a transgender female."

    Still, Scardina's motive is clear: She is removing the Civil Rights Commission from the equation in order to force the judicial system to determine whether Phillips violated Colorado law.
    No, he made it very clear that this was politically and legally motivated.

    You will bake my $#@!ing cake, bigot.
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    Colorado baker fighting ruling over gender transition cake
    https://apnews.com/article/religion-...26398f0e40b761
    [archive link: https://archive.ph/VSgCq]
    Colleen Slevin (06 October 2022)

    DENVER (AP) — The Colorado baker who won a partial Supreme Court victory after refusing on religious grounds to make a gay couple’s wedding cake a decade ago is challenging a separate ruling he violated the state’s anti-discrimination law by refusing to make a cake celebrating a gender transition.

    A lawyer for Jack Phillips on Wednesday urged Colorado’s appeals court — largely on procedural grounds — to overturn last year’s ruling in a lawsuit brought by a transgender woman.

    The woman, Autumn Scardina, called Phillips’ suburban Denver cake shop in 2017 requesting a birthday cake that had blue frosting on the outside and was pink inside to celebrate her gender transition. At trial last year, Phillips, a Christian, testified he did not think someone could change genders and he would not celebrate “somebody who thinks that they can.”

    Jake Warner, an attorney representing Phillips from the conservative Christian legal advocacy group Alliance Defending Freedom, said the ruling was wrong. He said requiring Phillips to create a cake with a message contrary to his religious beliefs amounts to forcing him to say something he does not believe, violating his right to free speech.

    Judge Timothy Schutz noted Phillips’ wife initially told Scardina the bakery could make the cake before Scardina volunteered that the design was meant to celebrate her gender transition.

    One of Scardina’s lawyers, John McHugh, said Scardina did not ask the shop to endorse her idea, just sell her a cake that they would sell anyone else. He said whether or not Phillips sells a cake to someone cannot depend on what the client tells him when he is making the cake.

    Both Scardina and Phillips spoke outside the court of larger issues involved. Scardina said the case was about the “dignity of LGBTQ Americans and Coloradans and the rule of law.” Phillips said he was fighting for the rights of all Americans to live according to their consciences “without fear of punishment” by government.

    In 2018, the Supreme Court ruled that the Colorado Civil Rights Commission had acted with anti-religious bias in enforcing the anti-discrimination law against Phillips after he refused to bake a cake celebrating the wedding of Charlie Craig and Dave Mullins in 2012. The justices called the commission unfairly dismissive of Phillips’ religious beliefs.

    The high court did not rule then on the larger issue of whether a business can invoke religious objections to refuse service to LGBTQ people. But it will get another chance when it hears a different case in coming months challenging Colorado’s anti-discrimination law.

    The case involves Denver-area designer Lorie Smith, who wants to offer wedding website services but says her Christian beliefs would lead her to decline any request from a same-sex couple to design a wedding website. She also wants to post a statement on her website about her beliefs but says Colorado’s law violates her free speech and religious rights.

    In agreeing to take the case, the Supreme Court said it would only examine the free speech issue.

    Smith is also defended by Alliance Defending Freedom. Phillips’ lawyers unsuccessfully asked Colorado’s appeals court to delay hearing arguments in his challenge until after the Supreme Court rules in Smith’s case.

    Scardina, an attorney, attempted to order her cake on the same day in 2017 that the Supreme Court announced it would hear Phillips’ appeal in the wedding cake case. Scardina testified she wanted to “challenge the veracity” of Phillips statements that he would serve LGBT customers.

    Before filing suit, Scardina first filed a complaint against Phillips with the state and the civil rights commission, which found probable cause that Phillips had discriminated against her. Phillips then filed a federal lawsuit against Colorado, accusing it of a “crusade to crush” him by pursuing the complaint.

    In March 2019, lawyers for the state and Phillips agreed to drop both cases under a settlement Scardina was not involved in. Warner told the appeals court panel that Scardina was required to appeal to the state appeals court first before filing a lawsuit and — since she did not — the ruling against Phillips should be thrown out because the state court judge who heard the lawsuit did not have jurisdiction.

    McHugh argued the settlement did not reach a conclusion on Scardina’s discrimination claim so there was nothing to stop her from filing a lawsuit against Phillips to pursue it.

    After trial of the lawsuit last year, Denver District Judge A. Bruce Jones rejected Phillips’ argument that making the cake would constitute compelled speech, saying it was simply a product sold by a business that couldn’t be withheld from people who have traditionally been treated unfairly and are protected by the state’s anti-discrimination law. He said Phillips’ decision not to provide the requested cake was “inextricably intertwined” with his refusal to recognize Scardina as a woman.
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