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    Exclamation 55% of women prefer socialism

    "Axios on HBO" poll: 55% of women prefer socialism

    https://www.axios.com/axios-hbo-poll...b6900f634.html

    A Harris poll for "Axios on HBO" finds that socialism is gaining popularity: 4 in 10 Americans say they would prefer living in a socialist country over a capitalist one.

    Why it matters: Socialism is losing its Soviet-era stigma, especially among women.

    55% of women between 18 and 54 would prefer to live in a socialist country than a capitalist country.

    But a majority of men prefer to live in a capitalist country.

    The big picture: "It's been a truth of American politics for decades that women are to the left of men, and I think that's playing out in this poll," Axios' Felix Salmon noted on "Axios on HBO."

    Between the lines: As the Harris poll results below show, the public has varying levels of agreement on what exactly constitutes a socialist political system.

    Universal healthcare: 76%
    Tuition free education: 72%
    Living wage: 68%
    State-controlled economy: 66%
    State control and regulation of private property : 61%
    High taxes for the rich: 60%
    State-controlled media and communication: 57%
    Strong environmental regulations: 56%
    High public spending: 55%
    Government ’’democratizes’’ private businesses — that is, gives workers control over them — to the greatest extent possible: 52%
    System dependent on dictatorship: 49%
    Workers own and control their places of employment: 48%
    Democratically-elected government: 46%

    (LOL - what are they bitching about? We already got all that. I'm assuming they now want a Man of Steel and some gulags. Between woemen and the migrant hordes, this place is $#@!ing toast. - AF)

    What's next: "We've seen this pattern of behavior where women are turning out in higher numbers as voters and as candidates than we've ever seen. They're getting elected in higher numbers than before. They're pushing the conversation in different ways," Axios' Alexi McCammond noted on "Axios on HBO."

    "They're looking for someone, a candidate on either side, who'll support this idea of a socialist country that they want to live in."
    Methodology: This survey was conducted online within the United States by The Harris Poll on behalf of Axios from April 16-18, 2019 among 2,024 adults ages 18 and older.

    This online survey is not based on a probability sample and therefore no estimate of theoretical sampling error can be calculated. Results are weighted for age within gender, region, race/ethnicity, household income, education, and size of household where necessary to align them with their actual proportions in the population using U.S census data.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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    It's a propaganda poll but the trends it exaggerates are real.

    Women never should have been given the vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's a propaganda poll but the trends it exaggerates are real.

    Women never should have been given the vote.
    No one should be allowed to vote. Voting is Socialism. If you believe in giving power to a centralize bureaucracy to steal the wealth from one group of people to be spent for the "benefit of the people/nation/volk" then you are engaging in socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    No one should be allowed to vote. Voting is Socialism. If you believe in giving power to a centralize bureaucracy to steal the wealth from one group of people to be spent for the "benefit of the people/nation/volk" then you are engaging in socialism.
    Government is required to protect the rights of individuals and it is much better to have a government in which people have a say by voting than one in which the rulers are not held responsible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Government is required to protect the rights of individuals
    And what a Great job they do!
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Government is required to protect the rights of individuals and it is much better to have a government in which people have a say by voting than one in which the rulers are not held responsible.
    All "government" does is violate the rights of the individual. None of the rulers are ever held responsible. "Government" exists to make it as hard as possible to hold any of the sociopaths in power to account. The most prolific mass murders in history have held the Presidential chair to general acclaim. Your "say" is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    All "government" does is violate the rights of the individual. None of the rulers are ever held responsible. "Government" exists to make it as hard as possible to hold any of the sociopaths in power to account. The most prolific mass murders in history have held the Presidential chair to general acclaim. Your "say" is meaningless.
    You will always have sociopaths and they will create governments designed to facilitate their depredations if good people don't create governments designed to restrain them.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    All "government" does is violate the rights of the individual. None of the rulers are ever held responsible. "Government" exists to make it as hard as possible to hold any of the sociopaths in power to account. The most prolific mass murders in history have held the Presidential chair to general acclaim. Your "say" is meaningless.
    So Thomas Jefferson was full of $#@! then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Women never should have been given the vote.
    How about the blacks? What is your opinion on black people being allowed to vote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    How about the blacks? What is your opinion on black people being allowed to vote?
    I see no reason to discriminate based on race.

    Is this some kind of test?
    Is someone trying to get me banned?

    I have made my position on race neutrality clear and have even argued with some members who think it makes a significant difference.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    The 19th Amendment was, and remains, an abomination.
    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    How about the blacks? What is your opinion on black people being allowed to vote?
    Why am I being singled out for interrogation?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Why am I being singled out for interrogation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    How about the blacks? What is your opinion on black people being allowed to vote?
    There are significant innate psychological and brain reasons that women tend towards big government no matter what culture they come from, there is nothing about race that is the same and if I was wrong filtering immigration based on culture would take care of it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Women want a free lunch? That explains why they always made me pay...
    The easy way to overcome that is to think like a woman... think of it as a Private Contract between "two consenting adults" ;-)
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    Unfortunately those women do not realize that they would not be a special, protected class. Socialism treats women as badly as it treats everyone else.
    #NashvilleStrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Unfortunately those women do not realize that they would not be a special, protected class. Socialism treats women as badly as it treats everyone else.
    Worse, actually...just look at Venezuela.

    But try and convince these pinheads of that.
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  22. #19
    I wonder what % of that 55% own their own business or live off of a man who does?

  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I wonder what % of that 55% own their own business or live off of a man who does?
    Probably about none of them .
    Do something Danke

  24. #21
    Look at all the "independent" single mothers living off the government.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Look at all the "independent" single mothers living off the government.
    That is my entire beef. In my experience, living in many areas across the country, while there may be "foreigners" who want a free lunch, the vast majority are American females who will shack up with anybody who is willing to "donate their services", in order to increase the monthly check. 3 or 4 fathers to 5 kids seems the norm. As I stated in another thread, any mention of a job will get you the middle finger and tell you to "f&uck off".
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    I'm with the 45%. Whoo Hoo! I love the underdogs.
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  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    A Harris poll for "Axios on HBO" finds that socialism is gaining popularity: 4 in 10 Americans say they would prefer living in a socialist country over a capitalist one.
    I know quite a few woman who have views such as mine. But yes, this number is growing. It is a direct result of lack of education... Common Core, TV shows that promote and glamorize socialism, billboards, etc.

    When taught what socialism really does, and real world examples of liberty and freedom are presented, along with accurate historical accounts of how socialism destroys, I think many folks would change their view.

    IMO, this is what the r3VOLution is really about. But people got lazy, began taking on a statist view, believing that trump is a savior and that immigrants are the problem. It has not even been 10 short years since Ron Paul ran and people no longer talk about End the Fed, IRS, Central Banking, IMF, and other overwhelming important things. Everything is a compete and utter distraction which is why liberty is dying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    IMO, this is what the r3VOLution is really about. But people got lazy, began taking on a statist view, believing that trump is a savior and that immigrants are the problem. It has not even been 10 short years since Ron Paul ran and people no longer talk about End the Fed, IRS, Central Banking, IMF, and other overwhelming important things. Everything is a compete and utter distraction which is why liberty is dying.
    Honestly, what makes you think I don't talk to people about that all the time?

    I don't post about here, because, well, how much can you beat a dead horse?

    After 12 years, you either understand or you don't.

    I also give them the 9/11 speech, assuming they even remember what that was, which is surprisingly few anymore.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  30. #26
    That makes sense, people with low IQ tend to support socialistic systems with very few exception. What is the solution to this problem? I say we repeal the suffrage laws instead of deporting them

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Honestly, what makes you think I don't talk to people about that all the time?

    I don't post about here, because, well, how much can you beat a dead horse?

    After 12 years, you either understand or you don't.

    I also give them the 9/11 speech, assuming they even remember what that was, which is surprisingly few anymore.

    I never said either way whether you do or don't. I was speaking in general terms, fully agree with your OP thread and simply commented why that is.
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  32. #28
    Makes sense since more women are Democrats than Republicans.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Makes sense since more women are Democrats than Republicans.
    Isn't that because Clinton's campaign shamed women into voting for democrats in 2016 because not voting for Clinton was selling out to women? Or is this about abortion and women wanting abortion rights because they empathize with the mother over the baby because they look more like the mother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Makes sense since more women are Democrats than Republicans.
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