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    Exclamation 55% of women prefer socialism

    "Axios on HBO" poll: 55% of women prefer socialism

    https://www.axios.com/axios-hbo-poll...b6900f634.html

    A Harris poll for "Axios on HBO" finds that socialism is gaining popularity: 4 in 10 Americans say they would prefer living in a socialist country over a capitalist one.

    Why it matters: Socialism is losing its Soviet-era stigma, especially among women.

    55% of women between 18 and 54 would prefer to live in a socialist country than a capitalist country.

    But a majority of men prefer to live in a capitalist country.

    The big picture: "It's been a truth of American politics for decades that women are to the left of men, and I think that's playing out in this poll," Axios' Felix Salmon noted on "Axios on HBO."

    Between the lines: As the Harris poll results below show, the public has varying levels of agreement on what exactly constitutes a socialist political system.

    Universal healthcare: 76%
    Tuition free education: 72%
    Living wage: 68%
    State-controlled economy: 66%
    State control and regulation of private property : 61%
    High taxes for the rich: 60%
    State-controlled media and communication: 57%
    Strong environmental regulations: 56%
    High public spending: 55%
    Government ’’democratizes’’ private businesses — that is, gives workers control over them — to the greatest extent possible: 52%
    System dependent on dictatorship: 49%
    Workers own and control their places of employment: 48%
    Democratically-elected government: 46%

    (LOL - what are they bitching about? We already got all that. I'm assuming they now want a Man of Steel and some gulags. Between woemen and the migrant hordes, this place is $#@!ing toast. - AF)

    What's next: "We've seen this pattern of behavior where women are turning out in higher numbers as voters and as candidates than we've ever seen. They're getting elected in higher numbers than before. They're pushing the conversation in different ways," Axios' Alexi McCammond noted on "Axios on HBO."

    "They're looking for someone, a candidate on either side, who'll support this idea of a socialist country that they want to live in."
    Methodology: This survey was conducted online within the United States by The Harris Poll on behalf of Axios from April 16-18, 2019 among 2,024 adults ages 18 and older.

    This online survey is not based on a probability sample and therefore no estimate of theoretical sampling error can be calculated. Results are weighted for age within gender, region, race/ethnicity, household income, education, and size of household where necessary to align them with their actual proportions in the population using U.S census data.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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    It's a propaganda poll but the trends it exaggerates are real.

    Women never should have been given the vote.
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    Unfortunately those women do not realize that they would not be a special, protected class. Socialism treats women as badly as it treats everyone else.
    #NashvilleStrong

    “I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi

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    I wonder what % of that 55% own their own business or live off of a man who does?

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    Look at all the "independent" single mothers living off the government.
    ...

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    I'm with the 45%. Whoo Hoo! I love the underdogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Women want a free lunch? That explains why they always made me pay...
    The easy way to overcome that is to think like a woman... think of it as a Private Contract between "two consenting adults" ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Look at all the "independent" single mothers living off the government.
    That is my entire beef. In my experience, living in many areas across the country, while there may be "foreigners" who want a free lunch, the vast majority are American females who will shack up with anybody who is willing to "donate their services", in order to increase the monthly check. 3 or 4 fathers to 5 kids seems the norm. As I stated in another thread, any mention of a job will get you the middle finger and tell you to "f&uck off".
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Unfortunately those women do not realize that they would not be a special, protected class. Socialism treats women as badly as it treats everyone else.
    Worse, actually...just look at Venezuela.

    But try and convince these pinheads of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    A Harris poll for "Axios on HBO" finds that socialism is gaining popularity: 4 in 10 Americans say they would prefer living in a socialist country over a capitalist one.
    I know quite a few woman who have views such as mine. But yes, this number is growing. It is a direct result of lack of education... Common Core, TV shows that promote and glamorize socialism, billboards, etc.

    When taught what socialism really does, and real world examples of liberty and freedom are presented, along with accurate historical accounts of how socialism destroys, I think many folks would change their view.

    IMO, this is what the r3VOLution is really about. But people got lazy, began taking on a statist view, believing that trump is a savior and that immigrants are the problem. It has not even been 10 short years since Ron Paul ran and people no longer talk about End the Fed, IRS, Central Banking, IMF, and other overwhelming important things. Everything is a compete and utter distraction which is why liberty is dying.
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    Makes sense since more women are Democrats than Republicans.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    IMO, this is what the r3VOLution is really about. But people got lazy, began taking on a statist view, believing that trump is a savior and that immigrants are the problem. It has not even been 10 short years since Ron Paul ran and people no longer talk about End the Fed, IRS, Central Banking, IMF, and other overwhelming important things. Everything is a compete and utter distraction which is why liberty is dying.
    Honestly, what makes you think I don't talk to people about that all the time?

    I don't post about here, because, well, how much can you beat a dead horse?

    After 12 years, you either understand or you don't.

    I also give them the 9/11 speech, assuming they even remember what that was, which is surprisingly few anymore.
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    That makes sense, people with low IQ tend to support socialistic systems with very few exception. What is the solution to this problem? I say we repeal the suffrage laws instead of deporting them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Honestly, what makes you think I don't talk to people about that all the time?

    I don't post about here, because, well, how much can you beat a dead horse?

    After 12 years, you either understand or you don't.

    I also give them the 9/11 speech, assuming they even remember what that was, which is surprisingly few anymore.

    I never said either way whether you do or don't. I was speaking in general terms, fully agree with your OP thread and simply commented why that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Makes sense since more women are Democrats than Republicans.
    Isn't that because Clinton's campaign shamed women into voting for democrats in 2016 because not voting for Clinton was selling out to women? Or is this about abortion and women wanting abortion rights because they empathize with the mother over the baby because they look more like the mother?



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    Stop with the woman hating. Just cut it out. If you believe in liberty, everyone gets a vote.
    #NashvilleStrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Stop with the woman hating. Just cut it out. If you believe in liberty, everyone gets a vote.
    By "telling" people what to say and not say?

    LOL ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Stop with the woman hating. Just cut it out. If you believe in liberty, everyone gets a vote.
    If you believe in democracy everybody gets a vote.
    If you believe in liberty you restrict some people from voting, women are one category that can reasonably be debated along with government workers and others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If you believe in democracy everybody gets a vote.
    If you believe in liberty you restrict some people from voting, women are one category that can reasonably be debated along with government workers and others.
    I guess it makes it easy if you are with a woman who wants to vote democrat you can just stay home and its just the same as if no one voted.

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    I’m not sure what you men are afraid of. Women have had the vote for less than 100 years. Who screwed it up before then?

    You all get way too wound up by surveys and polls. They are lies with numbers attached. Nobody knows what a majority of women think.
    #NashvilleStrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I’m not sure what you men are afraid of. Women have had the vote for less than 100 years. Who screwed it up before then?

    You all get way too wound up by surveys and polls. They are lies with numbers attached. Nobody knows what a majority of women think.
    It wasn't nearly so screwed up before then, the last 100 or so years have been a disaster.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Nothing like a bunch of blame-shifting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Stop with the woman hating. Just cut it out. If you believe in liberty, everyone gets a vote.
    Sometimes voting can have conflicts of interest though like when congress votes to give themselves a pay raise. It's kind of like letting an illegal immigrant vote for a politician like slow joe to give them citizenship. All citizens should be able to vote for whoever they want though, anything else is kind of $#@!ty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If you believe in democracy everybody gets a vote.
    If you believe in liberty you restrict some people from voting, women are one category that can reasonably be debated along with government workers and others.

    Here, I'll fix all of your errors.


    If you believe in democracy everybody gets a vote.
    If you believe in liberty you abide by contract rights.
    women are one category that can reasonably not be understood - because they are women ;-)
    government workers do not get a vote, for government is a creature that was created by man (and women).
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Stop with the woman hating. Just cut it out. If you believe in liberty, everyone gets a vote.
    Almost with you; how about anybody paying more into govt than getting from govt gets a vote? My wife thought she was a socialist until she started earning a paycheck and having to take care of all of society's leeches. Now she votes for whomever I tell her to vote for.

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    Just to reiterate, women are mush brains who make the country poorer and less free by having the ability to vote. (excepting the .2% of women who voted for Ron Paul or are libertarians.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Almost with you; how about anybody paying more into govt than getting from govt gets a vote? My wife thought she was a socialist until she started earning a paycheck and having to take care of all of society's leeches. Now she votes for whomever I tell her to vote for.
    I'd rather not allow anyone to vote who gets any money from government no matter how much they pay in taxes.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Just to reiterate, women are mush brains who make the country poorer and less free by having the ability to vote. (excepting the .2% of women who voted for Ron Paul or are libertarians.)
    My girlfriend would take that as a compliment she was a libertarian before I knew what a libertarian was.

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