US Libertarian Party Chairman Promoting Video Calling for Venezuela Regime Change

[PAF]

Written by Adam Dick
Monday June 10, 2019


You might hope that at least the United States Libertarian Party could be counted on not to support the US government’s effort to install its chosen politician as president of Venezuela. Oh well. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Earlier this month, a “Dear Libertarian” letter from party chairman Nicholas Sarwark appeared on the Libertarian Party’s website in which Sarwark promotes viewing a video by Kyle Varner — described by Sarwark as a party member — in which Varner delivers the US government’s regime change line in regard to the South America country.

In the video, Varner, purporting to speak for the Libertarian Party and all libertarians, compares Venezuela President Nicolás Maduro to Adolph Hitler, places the blame on the Venezuela government for problems in the country while neglecting to mention US sanctions or any other US government efforts that contribute to suffering in the Venezuela, and praises Juan Guaidó who is seeking to overthrow the Venezuela government and who the US government has been calling the “interim president” of Venezuela.

As if to make the support for a US government-orchestrated regime change operation in Venezuela yet more clear, Varner in the video even promotes that the “Chicago Boys” can improve things in Venezuela after the country’s current government is replaced. “Chicago Boys” is a reference to University of Chicago-connected individuals that played a prominent role in the Chile government after a successful US-supported regime change in that country in 1973.


http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives...regime-change/

[Brian4Liberty]

Advocating foreign regime change, and replacing them with people from (or controlled by) Chicago doesn’t seem very libertarian. It is just one person’s opinion, but Sarwark is a representative of the party. If the Libertarian Party doesn’t like it, they could always vote him out. Or the party could adjust their planks to officially take up that position.

[oyarde]

Advocating foreign regime change, and replacing them with people from (or controlled by) Chicago doesn’t seem very libertarian. It is just one person’s opinion, but Sarwark is a representative of the party. If the Libertarian Party doesn’t like it, they could always vote him out. Or the party could adjust their planks to officially take up that position.

I am starting to get a little offended here . If you want to topple a govt and have someone run the place I am certainly more qualified than chicago and they have not even contacted me with an offer. I guess those radical , broke ass libertarians probably cannot afford me anyway but still . Probably rolling the couch and car seat change to make a bold move later for medicare for all .

[Krugminator2]

Advocating foreign regime change, and replacing them with people from (or controlled by) Chicago doesn’t seem very libertarian. It is just one person’s opinion, but Sarwark is a representative of the party. If the Libertarian Party doesn’t like it, they could always vote him out. Or the party could adjust their planks to officially take up that position.

Hayek thought it was a good idea. Among other quotes:

"More recently I have not been able to find a single person even in much maligned Chile who did not agree that personal freedom was much greater under Pinochet than it had been under Allende." https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Friedr...d_dictatorship

It is always weird when I see libertarians use Chile as an example of foreign meddling. Chile worked. That was a good intervention. If all interventions went that smoothly then there would be justification for them. There was no blowback and the people are much better off. There are no radical Chileans committing terrorism against the US. And no US soldiers lost their lives.

I support regime change in Venezuela. I don't support US troops in Venezuela. But I see no problem with Trump meeting with the opposition and offering encouragement. Venezuela has a ton of oil and could be prosperous. More trade would be good for everyone. I don't see a problem with committing money and intelligence to oust a Communist.

That is my usual contrarian take. I understand not getting involved and the LP chair probably should promote it. But Venezuela isn't similar to Iraq.

[Brian4Liberty]

Hayek thought it was a good idea. Among other quotes:

"More recently I have not been able to find a single person even in much maligned Chile who did not agree that personal freedom was much greater under Pinochet than it had been under Allende." https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Friedr...d_dictatorship

It is always weird when I see libertarians use Chile as an example of foreign meddling. Chile worked. That was a good intervention. If all interventions went that smoothly then there would be justification for them. There was no blowback and the people are much better off. There are no radical Chileans committing terrorism against the US. And no US soldiers lost their lives.

I support regime change in Venezuela. I don't support US troops in Venezuela. But I see no problem with Trump meeting with the opposition and offering encouragement. Venezuela has a ton of oil and could be prosperous. More trade would be good for everyone. I don't see a problem with committing money and intelligence to oust a Communist.

That is my usual contrarian take. I understand not getting involved and the LP chair probably should promote it. But Venezuela isn't similar to Iraq.

Chile, what a success story. Was it when the US was engaging the economic hitmen to cripple the nation, or was it when those actions drove Chile leftward? Maybe it was when we supported Pinochet to put them under a right wing iron fist? It is a history of failure, like most of the South American interventions. Nicaragua, what a success. Noriega, things couldn’t have been better in Panama, eh? Too many examples to list.

[devil21]

Chile, what a success story. Was it when the US was engaging the economic hitmen to cripple the nation, or was it when those actions drove Chile leftward? Maybe it was when we supported Pinochet to put them under a right wing iron fist? It is a history of failure, like most of the South American interventions. Nicaragua, what a success. Noriega, things couldn’t have been better in Panama, eh? Too many examples to list.

Plus, what sense does it make to replace a socialist with another socialist? Guaido is an admitted socialist himself so what's the gain for Venezuelans there, especially those that oppose socialism?

[nikcers]

Plus, what sense does it make to replace a socialist with another socialist? Guaido is an admitted socialist himself so what's the gain for Venezuelans there, especially those that oppose socialism?

He was temporary so they could hold an election. The Chinese would hate for that so they had to supply trucks for them to run people over.

[juleswin]

Hayek thought it was a good idea. Among other quotes:

"More recently I have not been able to find a single person even in much maligned Chile who did not agree that personal freedom was much greater under Pinochet than it had been under Allende." https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Friedr...d_dictatorship

It is always weird when I see libertarians use Chile as an example of foreign meddling. Chile worked. That was a good intervention. If all interventions went that smoothly then there would be justification for them. There was no blowback and the people are much better off. There are no radical Chileans committing terrorism against the US. And no US soldiers lost their lives.

I support regime change in Venezuela. I don't support US troops in Venezuela. But I see no problem with Trump meeting with the opposition and offering encouragement. Venezuela has a ton of oil and could be prosperous. More trade would be good for everyone. I don't see a problem with committing money and intelligence to oust a Communist.

That is my usual contrarian take. I understand not getting involved and the LP chair probably should promote it. But Venezuela isn't similar to Iraq.

To be fair, I think the "free" helicopter rides had a lot to do with this condition. The people who opposed the govt were thoroughly dealt with that the rest just shut their mouths. The Haddi govt in Yemen did the same thing too, 99.9% of the presidential vote was for Haddi, not one living soul had anything negative to say about him. Paradise I tell you

[Origanalist]

Written by Adam Dick
Monday June 10, 2019


You might hope that at least the United States Libertarian Party could be counted on not to support the US government’s effort to install its chosen politician as president of Venezuela. Oh well. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Earlier this month, a “Dear Libertarian” letter from party chairman Nicholas Sarwark appeared on the Libertarian Party’s website in which Sarwark promotes viewing a video by Kyle Varner — described by Sarwark as a party member — in which Varner delivers the US government’s regime change line in regard to the South America country.

In the video, Varner, purporting to speak for the Libertarian Party and all libertarians, compares Venezuela President Nicolás Maduro to Adolph Hitler, places the blame on the Venezuela government for problems in the country while neglecting to mention US sanctions or any other US government efforts that contribute to suffering in the Venezuela, and praises Juan Guaidó who is seeking to overthrow the Venezuela government and who the US government has been calling the “interim president” of Venezuela.

As if to make the support for a US government-orchestrated regime change operation in Venezuela yet more clear, Varner in the video even promotes that the “Chicago Boys” can improve things in Venezuela after the country’s current government is replaced. “Chicago Boys” is a reference to University of Chicago-connected individuals that played a prominent role in the Chile government after a successful US-supported regime change in that country in 1973.


http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives...regime-change/

That party is a freak show.

More Clown World, I hate to keep using that reference but it fits.

Honk.

[euphemia]

That party is a freak show.

More Clown World, I hate to keep using that reference but it fits.

Honk.

This ^^^^

[juleswin]

Even AOC is against the Venezuelan govt and she is a democratic socialist. Also Rand would also agree with him on this

places the blame on the Venezuela government for problems in the country while neglecting to mention US sanctions or any other US government efforts that contribute to suffering in the Venezuela

The people in Washington finally agree about one thing

[oyarde]

Even AOC is against the Venezuelan govt and she is a democratic socialist. Also Rand would also agree with him on this



The people in Washington finally agree about one thing

AOC is probably concerned about what light bulbs they could be using .

[juleswin]

AOC is probably concerned about what light bulbs they could be using .

Add to that, the country is still trying to extract their carbon emitting oil for profit. Oil is the least green fuel ever invented. It all makes sense now.

[jmdrake]

Even AOC is against the Venezuelan govt and she is a democratic socialist. Also Rand would also agree with him on this



The people in Washington finally agree about one thing

Rand agrees with regime change in Venezuela? Link please. I am sure Rand agrees that socialism in Venezuela is bad.

[r3volution 3.0]

Rand agrees with regime change in Venezuela? Link please. I am sure Rand agrees that socialism in Venezuela is bad.

He's objected to intervention without a vote in Congress, but I don't know what he thinks about the underlying policy.

I'd assume he's opposed.

“The president doesn’t have the authority to do it without our permission,” said libertarian-leaning Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), a frequent golf partner of the president, when asked about a possible military intervention in Venezuela. “There has to be a vote in Congress or it will be illegal and unconstitutional.”

And then for some comedic relief:

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who is also close to Trump and is the polar opposite of Paul on foreign policy said, “I don’t care about voting on the use of force.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...te-gop-1307384

[juleswin]

Rand agrees with regime change in Venezuela? Link please. I am sure Rand agrees that socialism in Venezuela is bad.

places the blame on the Venezuela government for problems in the country while neglecting to mention US sanctions or any other US government efforts that contribute to suffering in the Venezuela

I said Rand would agree with him on this

[Swordsmyth]

Heil Koch!

The LP is dead.

[euphemia]

The LP is dead.

It cannot come too soon. I have never seen so-called leaders who have so little respect for their constituencies. What a freaking joke.

[Swordsmyth]

It cannot come too soon. I have never seen so-called leaders who have so little respect for their constituencies. What a freaking joke.

They drive away Conservatarians with open borders and support for abortion and now they will drive away leftarians by supporting Guaido, it's like they are self-destructing on purpose.

[juleswin]

The drive away Conservatarians with open borders and support for abortion and now they will drive away leftarians by supporting Guaido, it's like they are self-destructing on purpose.

Guaido has promised to open up their markets to foreign investors and privatize their oil industry. This is a very sensible position for him to take as a proponent of the free market. No where did he call for us intervention into the country aside from him supporting a person who calls for it. You people should be loving this guy right now

[LibertyEagle]

Guaido has promised to open up their markets to foreign investors and privatize their oil industry. This is a very sensible position for him to take as a proponent of the free market. No where did he call for us intervention into the country aside from him supporting a person who calls for it. You people should be loving this guy right now

That's not the point. The point is that it is none of our government's business to be determining who is or is not the leader of another sovereign nation. They have not attacked us, nor is there an imminent threat of doing so. Who leads their country is up to Venezuelans. Our government should be minding their own damn business.

[juleswin]

Heil Koch!

The LP is dead.

Remove the Hitler part and his views are not that different from Rand's. But I am sure you won't be accusing Rand of being a Koch whore.

[Swordsmyth]

Remove the Hitler part and his viewers are not that different from Rants. But I am sure you won't be accusing Rand of being a Koch whore.

I am much closer to the views expressed than you, we had plenty of discussions about it in the Venezuela threads but the LP keeps demonstrating that they will take any position the Kochs tell them to.

[juleswin]

I am much closer to the views expressed than you, we had plenty of discussions about it in the Venezuela threads but the LP keeps demonstrating that they will take any position the Kochs tell them to.

Exactly, we have Rand, you, angela and many other RPF member essentially in agreement with him and yet you bash him for having a position you and many other you admire have. It makes no sense

[Swordsmyth]

Exactly, we have Rand, you, angela and many other RPF member essentially in agreement with him and yet you bash him for having a position you and many other you admire have. It makes no sense

Guaido has promised to open up their markets to foreign investors and privatize their oil industry. This is a very sensible position for him to take as a proponent of the free market. No where did he call for us intervention into the country aside from him supporting a person who calls for it. You people should be loving this guy right now

If the LP hadn't already sold out on so many other issues I would probably be supporting him, I am not opposing his position necessarily because he didn't specify whether he was supporting US intervention, I am just pointing out that the LP does whatever the Kochs tell them to.

Turn things around for a moment, why aren't YOU bashing him for his position?

As I said above:

They drive away Conservatarians with open borders and support for abortion and now they will drive away leftarians by supporting Guaido, it's like they are self-destructing on purpose.

[Anti Globalist]

$#@!ing. Idiot. Guy should step down from his position as chairman.

[euphemia]

$#@!ing. Idiot. Guy should step down from his position as chairman.

No. The party rots from the head. Done.

[devil21]

$#@!ing. Idiot. Guy should step down from his position as chairman.

I just spent some time this past weekend with the Vice Chair (who used to be an active RPF member btw) and am trying to get to the bottom of what's behind this stupid $#@! lately. The Chair is coming off as a plant but that's standard operating procedure these days, I guess.

I will bash the LP for selling out to the Kochs as long as they continue to do so, the biggest issues I have with them are open borders and abortion but there is also their opposition to fighting back in the trade wars that is tacit support for ChiCom intervention in the marketplace and globalism.

^^^^
Says the poster that endorses theocratic world government. No one cares what you think.

[Swordsmyth]

^^^^
Says the poster that endorses theocratic world government. No one cares what you think.

That is a lie and nobody cares what you think.

[euphemia]

I’m going to bash them because they have put up horrible candidates and have taken unconstitutional positions on many issues. And they can’t get along.

The Constitution Party has excellent positions on every issue. They are the real libertarians.