Tulsi Gabbard sounds like a libertarian-leaning Democrat (Ron likes her!)

[nikcers]

Obama said he wouldn't take guns away. Trump has done more to take guns away than Obama.

Obama couldn't get anything done because he had congress fighting him every step of the way vying for power, checks and balances. We had the tea party in their fighting Obama, that was our saving grace, besides that Obama cried literally CRIED for gun control after every $#@!ing shooting.

[jmdrake]

I spent all my energy saying that we should put someone up against Hillary because I didn't want her to win to the point where I thought Trump would lose and spent all my energy advocating for a better candidate because I thought backing Trump was the same as backing Hillary if he was going to lose.

Good for you. Now will you please refrain from comparing me to Bernie Sanders simply because I take an uncompromising stance against gun control?

[Superfluous Man]

No i am not giving a pass for Trump on guns, I critcized him up until he started saying that he would not take the guns. If anything Trump has moved in my direction I haven't moved in his.

Did you do this for Obama as well when he said, "I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away."?

[nikcers]

Obama cheerleads for gun control after every shooting but Trump advocates against gun control and he is worse? This is why we can't win, you guys are don't understand how ideas work.

[jmdrake]

Obama couldn't get anything done because he had congress fighting him every step of the way vying for power, checks and balances. We had the tea party in their fighting Obama, that was our saving grace, besides that Obama cried literally CRIED for gun control after every $#@!ing shooting.

And now Trump has moved the gun control agenda forward because people on the right are afraid to keep his feet to the fire. You just proved my point for me. Thank you.

[nikcers]

Did you do this for Obama as well when he said, "I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away."?

No i didn't I backed the $#@!ing tea party so there would be a opposition to growing power, I donated my time and energy to a check against presidential power.

[Superfluous Man]

Obama couldn't get anything done because he had congress fighting him every step of the way vying for power, checks and balances.

Trump had that too. And it didn't stop him. He went beyond what Obama did and enacted by executive order what Obama deferred to Congress on and accepted that if Congress didn't pass it, he wouldn't enact it.

[nikcers]

And now Trump has moved the gun control agenda forward because people on the right are afraid to keep his feet to the fire. You just proved my point for me. Thank you.

No he just $#@!ing had the biggest press day of the year and said no we shouldn't take the guns, piers morgan the biggest advocate for gun control in the media. You don't have a point other than TDS.

[Superfluous Man]

No i didn't I backed the $#@!ing tea party so there would be a opposition to growing power, I donated my time and energy to a check against presidential power.

So then, it's not Trump who moved, it's you. Trump has an R after his name, Obama didn't. That's what matters.

[jmdrake]

Did you do this for Obama as well when he said, "I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away."?

Obama cheerleads for gun control after every shooting but Trump advocates against gun control and he is worse? This is why we can't win, you guys are don't understand how ideas work.

Obama signed executive orders that were pro second amendment. He didn't have to do that but he did it anyway. Congress didn't make him do it, but he did in anyway. By contrast Trump signed an anti second amendment executive order. I am no Obama fan. But Trump's record, so far, is worse on gun control than Obama's. That's just a fact. I could care less what a politician says. I care what he does.

[jmdrake]

No he just $#@!ing had the biggest press day of the year and said no we shouldn't take the guns, piers morgan the biggest advocate for gun control in the media. You don't have a point other than TDS.

You are the one with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Worshiping a man and defending everything he does no matter how wrong is a type of derangement.

[Superfluous Man]

No he just $#@!ing had the biggest press day of the year and said no we shouldn't take the guns, piers morgan the biggest advocate for gun control in the media. You don't have a point other than TDS.

You keep making the same lame argument of "Trump said...."

The whole point is that it doesn't matter what Trump says. And Trump has proved that more than enough times. Trump constantly contradicts himself. You're just cherry picking one thing he said when he took your side and setting aside everything he said that was the exact opposite of that. When he said, "Take their guns first, do due process later," that was worse than anything Obama ever said in favor of gun control.

[nikcers]

Trump had that too. And it didn't stop him. He went beyond what Obama did and enacted by executive order what Obama deferred to Congress on and accepted that if Congress didn't pass it, he wouldn't enact it.

You mean when he derailed the democrat talking point because the democrats were using gun violence as a talking point to try to win the house and senate?

[nikcers]

You are the one with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Worshiping a man and defending everything he does no matter how wrong is a type of derangement.

LOL i don't worship Trump I just don't think Tulsi Gabbard is any better, she is not Ron Paul. I don't remember Ron Paul being in the CFR.

[jmdrake]

So then, it's not Trump who moved, it's you. Trump has an R after his name, Obama didn't. That's what matters.

@nikers is suffering from a type of Trump Derangement Syndrome. There are those who are deranged because they will oppose Trump no matter what he does. Then there are those who are deranged because they will support Trump no matter what he does. There are things Trump has done that I support such as the First Step Act. I support his inner city community investment initiative and his tax break. I don't support his face scanning cameras, his bumpfire stock ban executive order, or his telling Dianne Feinstein that he would support her assault weapons ban. And for that I am falsely accused of TDS. That's fine with me.

[jmdrake]

LOL i don't worship Trump I just don't think Tulsi Gabbard is any better, she is not Ron Paul. I don't remember Ron Paul being in the CFR.

I never said she was. I just pointed out that Trump is also a gun grabber. That is a fact. Deal with it.

[nikcers]

You keep making the same lame argument of "Trump said...."

The whole point is that it doesn't matter what Trump says. And Trump has proved that more than enough times. Trump constantly contradicts himself. You're just cherry picking one thing he said when he took your side and setting aside everything he said that was the exact opposite of that. When he said, "Take their guns first, do due process later," that was worse than anything Obama ever said in favor of gun control.

ideas $#@!ing matter dude, if he would of agreed with piers morgan we would have Trump supporters who would agree with him because he is Trump and they would be arguing for gun control, thats how populism works.

[Todd]

LOL i don't worship Trump I just don't think Tulsi Gabbard is any better, she is not Ron Paul. I don't remember Ron Paul being in the CFR.

If you think Tulsi is no Ron Paul......I got big news for you about Trump.

[PAF]

Obama said he wouldn't take guns away. Trump has done more to take guns away than Obama.

[jmdrake]

You mean when he derailed the democrat talking point because the democrats were using gun violence as a talking point to try to win the house and senate?

It hasn't been "derailed" at all. But if that's your argument then Trump should just go ahead and grant amnesty to illegal immigrants to "take away a democratic talking point."

[nikcers]

I never said she was. I just pointed out that Trump is also a gun grabber. That is a fact. Deal with it.

Tulsi Gabbard is just as bad, probably worse, she doesn't have Republican voters that she has to court to get elected, she has voters who want gun control that she has to court in order to get elected.

[nikcers]

It hasn't been "derailed" at all. But if that's your argument then Trump should just go ahead and grant amnesty to illegal immigrants to "take away a democratic talking point."

Yeah it does, every time I have seen them complain about gun violence and he says well I did this, its an instant kill shot to their talking point because they say "Trump doesn't do anything about gun violence" and he says "yes I did" and you can't argue that he didn't unless you argue that gun control doesn't work, its a double troll.

[PAF]

When he said, "Take their guns first, do due process later," that was worse than anything Obama ever said in favor of gun control.

That about sums it up.

[nikcers]

You' are just as bad as the $#@!ing Bernie Sanders people who are calling for socialism for all because corporations get it. Well I guess since we already have socialism we should expand it, well I guess since we already have gun control we should vote for someone who wants to take the guns.

JM drake neg repping me ,calling me a liar, here is the tweet.

Bernie Sanders
@bernieSanders
Here is the difference between Donald Trump and me.

He believes in corporate socialism for the rich and powerful.

I believe in a #DemocraticSocialism that works for the working families of this country.

[nikcers]

That about sums it up.

Only if you ignore that he recently said the opposite.

[nikcers]

Tulsi Gabbard wants medicare for all when we can't even afford medicare, it would cost 32 trillion dollars over 10 years. She would rack up more debt than Obama.

[jmdrake]

You mean when he derailed the democrat talking point because the democrats were using gun violence as a talking point to try to win the house and senate?

It hasn't been "derailed" at all. But if that's your argument then Trump should just go ahead and grant amnesty to illegal immigrants to "take away a democratic talking point."

[jmdrake]

JM drake neg repping me ,calling me a liar, here is the tweet.

Bernie Sanders
@bernieSanders
Here is the difference between Donald Trump and me.

He believes in corporate socialism for the rich and powerful.

I believe in a #DemocraticSocialism that works for the working families of this country.

You compared me to Bernie Sanders for opposing Trump's support of gun control. That is a lie. Your "tweet" doesn't make your lie true.

[jmdrake]

Yeah it does, every time I have seen them complain about gun violence and he says well I did this, its an instant kill shot to their talking point because they say "Trump doesn't do anything about gun violence" and he says "yes I did" and you can't argue that he didn't unless you argue that gun control doesn't work, its a double troll.

Has the left stopped pushing gun control? No. So you're full of shyt.

[PAF]

Only if you ignore that he recently said the opposite.

I am a firm believer in "Setting the Tone" with the American sheep.

Trump said "Take their guns first, do due process later" to the American sheep AND to his base. He banned bump stocks which violated all of the above in my prior post. He also said "raise the age to 21" and immediately following that states have begun to move in that direction.

The actions in his case speak as loud as his words.

But, carry on...