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Thread: If Trump let's NAFTA expire and stops US corn subsidies, Illegal immigration will end

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    If Trump let's NAFTA expire and stops US corn subsidies, Illegal immigration will end

    If Trump let's NAFTA expire and stops US corn subsidies, maybe the Mexican corn farmer can make a living again, and illegal immigration for jobs will plummet. We don't need a wall.

    They are not coming here for welfare they are coming here to work. I don't see the projects full of illegal Mexicans. I do see them full of Haitians, Ethiopians, and Somalis. So stop blaming Mexicans.

    NAFTA killed the small Mexican corn farmer, and corn is what they eat in Mexico, often growing their own. The average poor semi-starving Mexican got the raw part of deal, and is getting the blame because he refuses to just lay down and die. LET NAFTA EXPIRE. END US CORN SUBSIDIES. What are billionaire agribusiness companies doing getting our tax dollars?

    Good for Mexico. Good for America. Come on Trump you are halfway there.

    Under Nafta, Mexico Suffered, and the United States Felt Its Pain
    https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebat...-felt-its-pain
    Last edited by James_Madison_Lives; 06-10-2019 at 10:02 PM.
    His name was Seth Rich.



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    I agree with both actions you recommend but we had an illegal immigrant problem before those.

    Mexicans are also not the only or according to some sources even the major source of illegals but Mexico has been facilitating the invasion by people from other countries, hopefully Trump's deal will put an end to that.

    We need improved border security whether it comes from massively increased patrols or more miles of wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I agree with both actions you recommend but we had an illegal immigrant problem before those.

    Mexicans are also not the only or according to some sources even the major source of illegals but Mexico has been facilitating the invasion by people from other countries, hopefully Trump's deal will put an end to that.

    We need improved border security whether it comes from massively increased patrols or more miles of wall.
    That is true but it didn't skyrocket out of control until NAFTA. Someone has to clean the toilets. In one stroke Trump could do more to solve the problem then continually jerking off about the wall.
    His name was Seth Rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I agree with both actions you recommend but we had an illegal immigrant problem before those.

    Mexicans are also not the only or according to some sources even the major source of illegals but Mexico has been facilitating the invasion by people from other countries, hopefully Trump's deal will put an end to that.

    We need improved border security whether it comes from massively increased patrols or more miles of wall.

    Wrong again.

    What we need to do is promote true Free Markets. Restrictionism NEVER accomplishes anything other than more restrictionism, bigger government, police state tactics and reduction of liberty.

    What you propose are statist government "solutions", well, because you are a statist.


    This is water under the bridge, but important to know. If you click the link under the picture you will see a moving time-line:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's not a police state, it's what every nation in history has done.

    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Wrong again.

    What we need to do is promote true Free Markets. Restrictionism NEVER accomplishes anything other than more restrictionism, bigger government, police state tactics and reduction of liberty.

    What you propose are statist government "solutions", well, because you are a statist.


    This is water under the bridge, but important to know. If you click the link under the picture you will see a moving time-line:


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    Tyrants must be restricted if liberty is to exist, that applies to those who would vote for and support them too since they are tyrants by proxy.

    We have a right and a duty to preserve liberty by restricting who may come here.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Wrong again.

    What we need to do is promote true Free Markets. Restrictionism NEVER accomplishes anything other than more restrictionism, bigger government, police state tactics and reduction of liberty.

    What you propose are statist government "solutions", well, because you are a statist.


    This is water under the bridge, but important to know. If you click the link under the picture you will see a moving time-line:


    Click image for larger version. 

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    That sounds fine until a corporation starts dumping benzene in river upstream of your house.
    His name was Seth Rich.



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