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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    Bingo! This is exactly why there is such an intense propaganda campaign against immigrants. TPTB don't want people being shown that they are able to live freely and not be surveiled and tracked by the government, or any further development of a successful model of agorism. I find it very ironic that most Americans have absolutely no understanding of why I live as I do and find it "strange", yet all the immigrants that I know are amazed that I "live as we do" and highly respect me for it. All this talk of immigrants being "socialists" is just propaganda, complete with phony statistics and fake news, the reality is that they espouse our founding principles much more so than the vast majority of Americans themselves.
    LOL

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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    Bingo! This is exactly why there is such an intense propaganda campaign against immigrants.
    What intense propaganda campaign?

    Every single big government institution, every single big government media organ, every single leftist NGO, every single pro big government think tank...every one, is in favor of unlimited migration, acceptance and tolerance of immigrants, even at the expense of your own displacement, and some form of "open borders".



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    What intense propaganda campaign?

    Every single big government institution, every single big government media organ, every single leftist NGO, every single pro big government think tank...every one, is in favor of unlimited migration, acceptance and tolerance of immigrants, even at the expense of your own displacement, and some form of "open borders".
    I'm sure he means the intense propaganda campaign by world government advocating interests like Swordsmyth, particularly aimed at the right, to keep people from associating with immigrants. To view them all as "invaders" or "socialists" or some label that invokes a "you don't want to be like XXXXXX, do ya?" mindset. As invisible, PAF, Ender and myself have observed, immigrants do indeed exhibit many more of the rugged individualist traits that actually did Make America Great at one point. Hard-working, untracked commerce, minimal interaction with MSM brainwashing, even down to relatively clean eating habits, family values and religious observation. PRINCIPLES THAT CONSERVATIVES SHOULD BE EMBRACING INSTEAD OF FLEEING FROM! Principles that conservatives actually stood for not very long ago, actually.

    As to the government aspect, they have their own reasons for inviting immigrants. Some of which include the anchor babies that mean new "legal" debt and tax slaves for the bankers (freshly minted Birth Certificate babies), the racial dilution agenda, cheap labor and other reasons. The difference is that they are invited for one set of reasons but are demonized to those conservatives that would actually find they have more in common, ideologically, with the immigrants than they do their own party elites, because it's counter-productive to the agenda setter's longer term goals if conservatives are reminded of what used to be their own set of principles.
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  6. #34
    The essential difference between established, native born citizens and illegal immigrants is enforcement. Where a citizen might be aggressively pursued and prosecuted, an illegal immigrant might be completely ignored. The IRS for instance would be much more likely to go after a citizen. Walking away is more difficult once you are on the radar.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by fedupinmo View Post
    Just think if the pilot came on the PA saying the plane had been diverted to Guatemala.
    If the person needed a lift home, or a visit for a family event, it would be the least that the airline could do to take them home free. The government can pay the airline back, or just take control of the airline entirely to ensure that such flights are provided on demand. The other bourgeoisie passengers can go along for the ride. They deserve to be inconvenienced and punished for their privileged lives.
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    What intense propaganda campaign?

    Every single big government institution, every single big government media organ, every single leftist NGO, every single pro big government think tank...every one, is in favor of unlimited migration, acceptance and tolerance of immigrants, even at the expense of your own displacement, and some form of "open borders".
    Exactly.

    Your deviation from good and approved thought stands out like a sore thumb, and has been noted. Non-conformance is unacceptable, comrade.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    In fact, I wonder if it's possible for a citizen to get one of these forms legally, without counterfeiting it, by calling into question our own legal status somehow and arranging a court date to resolve it.
    Certainly not. One would have to file for asylum within one year of (unlawful) entry into the U.S. or at a port of entry, and as stated within the article, pass a credible fear assessment. Not to mention the individual would need to hail from a foreign nation from which asylum is being claimed. I'm sure a U.S. citizen could attempt to fraudulently do this, but it wouldn't end well.

    Also, the way immigration works is that individuals can apply for status, but there is no apparatus to "question" legal status. That would probably need to be done through an immigration attorney who would be able to decide whether someone with questionable status should and/or can apply for status. There have certainly been cases where individuals thought that they were U.S. citizens but later learned that their parents didn't maintain their status, etc.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    I'm sure he means the intense propaganda campaign by world government advocating interests like Swordsmyth, particularly aimed at the right, to keep people from associating with immigrants.
    That doesn't make any sense.

    Why would a world government organ hire somebody to post on an obscure online forum, propaganda that is in opposition to what they want?

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    That doesn't make any sense.

    Why would a world government organ hire somebody to post on an obscure online forum, propaganda that is in opposition to what they want?
    Obscure is not the same as not being a threat. After all, Rand, Amash, Massie, and others in lesser positions have been elected, and TPTB cannot afford to have those efforts built upon and expanded.

    It is an attempt to get people to blindly hate a large group of potentially very strong political allies, a group of people who avoid being tracked and spied on by the government, ignore victimless crime laws, distrust the government and it's media organs, start businesses, avoid taxes, detest welfare, avoid any interactions with the government, don't keep their money in banks, pay in cash, and are highly agoristic. After all, it's easier to just hate that guy who came here, started a business, has no interaction with the government whatsoever, and lives anonymously, and call him an "invader" and "socialist", than it is to admit than he's a whole lot smarter and has a lot more balls than someone who willingly submits to additional biometrics to keep their "job" so that they can have the government take a cut of their paycheck before putting it in a bank. The propagandists just want you to keep submitting to the government, and not bother to ally with people who actually live freely.

    Instead of actually living freely and working to get Liberty Candidates elected, the propagandists would rather see you blame others for our country's problems, mock those here who do actually live freely and call them names, and turn your back on why you came here to RPF in the first place. Of course they will only mock and call names, and attempt to claim that the reality that I live every day is somehow fantasy. They sure don't want you actually interacting with these people and finding out how much they're lying to you, let alone letting them serve as examples of how to live freely and helping to get Liberty Candidates elected.
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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    I'm sure he means the intense propaganda campaign by world government advocating interests like Swordsmyth, particularly aimed at the right, to keep people from associating with immigrants. To view them all as "invaders" or "socialists" or some label that invokes a "you don't want to be like XXXXXX, do ya?" mindset. As invisible, PAF, Ender and myself have observed, immigrants do indeed exhibit many more of the rugged individualist traits that actually did Make America Great at one point. Hard-working, untracked commerce, minimal interaction with MSM brainwashing, even down to relatively clean eating habits, family values and religious observation. PRINCIPLES THAT CONSERVATIVES SHOULD BE EMBRACING INSTEAD OF FLEEING FROM! Principles that conservatives actually stood for not very long ago, actually.

    As to the government aspect, they have their own reasons for inviting immigrants. Some of which include the anchor babies that mean new "legal" debt and tax slaves for the bankers (freshly minted Birth Certificate babies), the racial dilution agenda, cheap labor and other reasons. The difference is that they are invited for one set of reasons but are demonized to those conservatives that would actually find they have more in common, ideologically, with the immigrants than they do their own party elites, because it's counter-productive to the agenda setter's longer term goals if conservatives are reminded of what used to be their own set of principles.
    That's a nice pack of lies.

    I oppose world government while you support policies like open borders which will lead to it and immigrants are much more communist and globalist than Americans.
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The essential difference between established, native born citizens and illegal immigrants is enforcement. Where a citizen might be aggressively pursued and prosecuted, an illegal immigrant might be completely ignored. The IRS for instance would be much more likely to go after a citizen. Walking away is more difficult once you are on the radar.
    And knowing that they are more equal they happily vote to increase government power.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    That doesn't make any sense.

    Why would a world government organ hire somebody to post on an obscure online forum, propaganda that is in opposition to what they want?
    devil's lie is based on a false interpretation of Mormon doctrine on a point that is shared with all Christians.
    He claims that believing in the Kingdom of GOD after the return of Christ means that you support world government.
    He is the one who either stupidly or maliciously supports globalist policies.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    Obscure is not the same as not being a threat. After all, Rand, Amash, Massie, and others in lesser positions have been elected, and TPTB cannot afford to have those efforts built upon and expanded.

    It is an attempt to get people to blindly hate a large group of potentially very strong political allies, a group of people who avoid being tracked and spied on by the government, ignore victimless crime laws, distrust the government and it's media organs, start businesses, avoid taxes, detest welfare, avoid any interactions with the government, don't keep their money in banks, pay in cash, and are highly agoristic. After all, it's easier to just hate that guy who came here, started a business, has no interaction with the government whatsoever, and lives anonymously, and call him an "invader" and "socialist", than it is to admit than he's a whole lot smarter and has a lot more balls than someone who willingly submits to additional biometrics to keep their "job" so that they can have the government take a cut of their paycheck before putting it in a bank. The propagandists just want you to keep submitting to the government, and not bother to ally with people who actually live freely.

    Instead of actually living freely and working to get Liberty Candidates elected, the propagandists would rather see you blame others for our country's problems, mock those here who do actually live freely and call them names, and turn your back on why you came here to RPF in the first place. Of course they will only mock and call names, and attempt to claim that the reality that I live every day is somehow fantasy. They sure don't want you actually interacting with these people and finding out how much they're lying to you, let alone letting them serve as examples of how to live freely and helping to get Liberty Candidates elected.
    Another pack of lies.

    Every wave of immigration has increased the power of the state and we will never be able to reduce the power of the state if it is allowed to import millions of socialists who owe it for being allowed to come here and being treated better than the native citizens.
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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Another pack of lies.

    Every wave of immigration has increased the power of the state and we will never be able to reduce the power of the state if it is allowed to import millions of socialists who owe it for being allowed to come here and being treated better than the native citizens.
    Let's build a bigger government to protect us from people who will force us to have a bigger government! (even though they are unable to vote).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Let's build a bigger government to protect us from people who will force us to have a bigger government! (even though they are unable to vote).

    (more guidebook cliches!)
    You are the one using guidebook cliches.
    They vote, they campaign, they get citizenship when idiots give them amnesty and they raise children who grow up and vote as they teach them to.

    It isn't growing government to secure the border and limit immigration, the government is far bigger than it needs to be to do those and they are part of the basic duties of the smallest governments.
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  19. #46
    the government is far bigger than it needs to be to do those and they are part of the basic duties of the smallest governments.
    So we can cut down on the size of the border patrol and cut funds for the wall since they already have too much money and too many people for that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    So we can cut down on the size of the border patrol and cut funds for the wall since they already have too much money and too many people for that.
    If we put the military on the border and use military funds for any needed construction.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Let's build a bigger government...

    But you want bigger government. You actively campaign against Ron and Rand. You rabidly do it.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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  23. #49
    It must be fun to live in your own little fantasy world.
    That's a nice pack of lies.

    I oppose world government while you support policies like open borders which will lead to it and immigrants are much more communist and globalist than Americans.
    devil's lie is based on a false interpretation of Mormon doctrine on a point that is shared with all Christians.
    He claims that believing in the Kingdom of GOD after the return of Christ means that you support world government.
    He is the one who either stupidly or maliciously supports globalist policies.
    Another pack of lies.
    And that's all this person's got, is to call anyone exposing their propaganda a liar. Nevermind that several genuine long-time Ron Paul supporters speak from direct personal experience, observation, and actual interaction with the people they're attempting to demonize.


    And knowing that they are more equal they happily vote to increase government power.
    Every wave of immigration has increased the power of the state and we will never be able to reduce the power of the state if it is allowed to import millions of socialists who owe it for being allowed to come here and being treated better than the native citizens.
    And of course, if you keep repeating this garbage often enough, people just might believe it. With 36+ posts a day pushing trump's propaganda, no history of activism or supporting Ron Paul, and continuous direct opposition to Ron Paul, does anyone actually think that this guy has any credibility whatsoever? If so, I'm sure that PT Barnum would love to meet you!
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