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    House passes Bill for citizenship for minors.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c48011...n-bill-237-187

    House Passes U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Bill, 237-187

    In a vote of 237-187, the House passes a bill to provide permanent status with a path to citizenship to undocumented individuals who immigrated to the U.S. as minors. The bill now heads to the Senate. Earlier today, the House debated the bill.
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    It is a deconstructionist society. In an age of overload of information, truth of words has become irrelevant. Truth of meaning is all that is left.

    2 + 2 = 5.



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    This is treason. The whole lot of them should be immediately voted out of office for their crimes.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    If they are undocumented, how does anyone know they came here as minors?
    Do something Dodgers.

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    Saw this yesterday. Couldn't believe there wasn't a five page thread on it yet.
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    welcome to the plantation dumba$$es...they got you, and you came willingly!

    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    welcome to the plantation dumba$$es...they got you, and you came willingly!
    Yep, lol.
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    As is regularly pointed out on this forum, Trump is an idiot, a liar, and regularly uses bloated exaggeration so why would anyone put much stock into what he says? I think it's easy to figure Trump out. Sorry you are still confused.
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    That is a lie.
    @Brian4Liberty, devil keeps spreading this lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    If they are undocumented, how does anyone know they came here as minors?
    Believe all immigrants!
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    As is regularly pointed out on this forum, Trump is an idiot, a liar, and regularly uses bloated exaggeration so why would anyone put much stock into what he says? I think it's easy to figure Trump out. Sorry you are still confused.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is a lie.
    @Brian4Liberty, devil keeps spreading this lie.
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    One step closer to world government and the end of the US constitution. NO BORDERS, NO WALL, NO USA AT ALL!
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Believe all immigrants!
    Btw, welcome back Originalist

    Nope, you don't have to believe all immigrants. You see, when you come as an undocumented immigrants, you are then documented once you register for high school or for healthcare etc. That is how they know. The real question is this, how would they know your true age if you are undocumented? well, they require documents from your home country (which can sometimes be forged) to get your age.
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    The Democrats only care about illegal aliens...

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    The left doesn't want Americans to be born because no one will take care of them but they are willing to take care of anyone who comes over the border.

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    Did Dems misread MAGA's messaging on this?


    Blaming MAGA for Border Rush


    Some in the past have tried to blame MAGA's messaging and tweets for accelerating border rush but he was trying to quickly resolve issues left unsolved by previous Dem administration and was by no means inviting more to join the pool before Congress acts. Critics like Breitbart writers, Coulter, Tucker etc have been too rough on MAGA on this.








    Trump Appears to Endorse Path to Citizenship for Millions of Immigrants
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/u...migration.html
    2 days ago - WASHINGTON — President Trump on Tuesday appeared open to negotiating a sweeping immigration deal that would eventually grant millions of undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship, declaring that he was willing to “take the heat” politically for an approach that seemed to flatly contradict the ...


    Trump dangles DACA program deal in exchange for border wall

    The president previously said DACA should be excluded from talks of a southern border wall until the Supreme Court weighs in.

    January 13, 2019

    WASHINGTON — With no end in sight to the longest government shutdown, President Donald Trump dangled the prospect of a deal on the Obama-era DACA program in exchange for Democrats’ support for his $5.7 billion demand to build a southern border wall.

    Trump took to Twitter on Sunday morning, accusing Democrats of not including the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals in ongoing negotiations to reopen the government, despite the president previously declaring the program, which grants temporary legal status to about 800,000 young immigrants, should be excluded from talks until the Supreme Court weighs in on the program.

    Democrats are saying that DACA is not worth it and don’t want to include in talks. Many Hispanics will be coming over to the Republican side, watch!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 13, 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Btw, welcome back Originalist

    Nope, you don't have to believe all immigrants. You see, when you come as an undocumented immigrants, you are then documented once you register for high school or for healthcare etc. That is how they know. The real question is this, how would they know your true age if you are undocumented? well, they require documents from your home country (which can sometimes be forged) to get your age.
    Lol, thanks for the julessplain. That clears up the whole thing. Yep, crystal clear now.
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    As is regularly pointed out on this forum, Trump is an idiot, a liar, and regularly uses bloated exaggeration so why would anyone put much stock into what he says? I think it's easy to figure Trump out. Sorry you are still confused.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is a lie.
    @Brian4Liberty, devil keeps spreading this lie.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I will report violations of the forum rules to the forum staff when they are egregious enough.

    You should remember that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Lol, thanks for the julessplain. That clears up the whole thing. Yep, crystal clear now.
    Julessplaining, mansplanning etc etc otherwise known as the cure for ignorance, this is when someone with knowledge drops it on a person without and he/she gets an attitude because someone gave them an information they didn't already know. It's nice to see that all this time off never changed your attitude
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    What are the odds of this passing the Senate?
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    Ron Paul is against deportation but favors giving them a legal status (but not citizenship).

    http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Ron_...mmigration.htm

    Give illegals limbo status: a green card with an asterisk

    Immigrants who can't be sent back due to the magnitude of the problem should not be given citizenship--no amnesty should be granted. Maybe a "green card" with an asterisk could be issued. This in-between status, keeping illegal immigrants in limbo, will be said that it will create a class of 2nd-class citizens. Yet it could be argued that it may well allow some immigrants who come here illegally a beneficial status without automatic citizenship--a much better option than deportation.
    Source: Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.156 , Apr 19, 2011

    Sending 12M illegals home won't & shouldn't happen

    Even with a healthy economy and stricter border controls, the issue of what to do with twelve-million-plus illegals already here would persist. One side says use the U.S. Army, round them up, and ship them home. The other side says give them amnesty, make them full-fledged citizens, and reward the lawbreakers, thus insulting and unfairly penalizing those who have patiently waited and obeyed our immigration laws. The first choice--sending twelve to fifteen million illegals home--isn't going to happen and should not happen. Neither the determination or the ability to accomplish it exists. Besides, if each case is looked at separately, we would find ourselves splitting up families and deporting some who have lived here for decades, if not their entire life, and who never lived for any length of time in Mexico.
    Source: Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.153 , Apr 19, 2011
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Ron Paul is against deportation but favors giving them a legal status (but not citizenship).

    http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Ron_...mmigration.htm

    Are you really claiming Ron Paul would vote for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Ron Paul is against deportation but favors giving them a legal status (but not citizenship).

    http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Ron_...mmigration.htm
    https://youtu.be/8y3zEP75kFM

    Ron Paul is against illegal immigration & he supports deporting them..
    Sad Day for open borders Libertarians!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    https://youtu.be/8y3zEP75kFM

    Ron Paul is against illegal immigration & he supports deporting them..
    Sad Day for open borders Libertarians!
    1) against the fence/ border wall
    2) remove benefits
    3) hospitals should be charitable (voluntarily of course) to treat them.
    4) legal immigration should be increased.
    5) he did not say round them up and deport them. He hedged on that. Deport if arrested for a crime.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The quality seems to have dropped significantly since I came here, I guess you get what you pay for.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    https://youtu.be/8y3zEP75kFM

    Ron Paul is against illegal immigration & he supports deporting them..
    Sad Day for open borders Libertarians!
    He also said he didn't really like fences

    And he didn't single out minors when he made his statements either.

    But his main point, and it seems we've just given up on any efforts towards this, was if you end the welfare state you end this problem.
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Julessplaining, mansplanning etc etc otherwise known as the cure for ignorance, this is when someone with knowledge drops it on a person without and he/she gets an attitude because someone gave them an information they didn't already know. It's nice to see that all this time off never changed your attitude
    The ignorance is yours. The utopia you imagine doesn't exist. The fraud rate for daca is 40-50‰, mostly lying about age.

    https://www.lifezette.com/2017/09/fm...-daca-program/
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    He also said he didn't really like fences

    And he didn't single out minors when he made his statements either.

    But his main point, and it seems we've just given up on any efforts towards this, was if you end the welfare state you end this problem.
    Oh, but that's soooo hard!!! Much easier to have MORE gov, than trim it down for more freedom.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Oh, but that's soooo hard!!! Much easier to have MORE gov, than trim it down for more freedom.
    I know you are being sarcastic but its the truth. Its near impossible to get something repealed as soon as it becomes law.

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    Good luck getting the Senate to pass it.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge



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    More tax paying units to fund single payer healthcare for the Baby Boomers since we don't have that base now.
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    It is a deconstructionist society. In an age of overload of information, truth of words has become irrelevant. Truth of meaning is all that is left.

    2 + 2 = 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    More tax paying units to fund single payer healthcare for the Baby Boomers since we don't have that base now.
    Except they are a net drain.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    The American liberals have gone bonkers crazy. How can they give out citizenship for minors who are undocumented individuals with fake passports??
    This is crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Except they are a net drain.
    Hmmm maybe. The healthcare system (HCS) or rather the Human Cattle System will see a continued rise in cost under "managed care" the cattle use.
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    It is a deconstructionist society. In an age of overload of information, truth of words has become irrelevant. Truth of meaning is all that is left.

    2 + 2 = 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Julessplaining, mansplanning etc etc otherwise known as the cure for ignorance, this is when someone with knowledge drops it on a person without and he/she gets an attitude because someone gave them an information they didn't already know. It's nice to see that all this time off never changed your attitude
    Dude, you're a $#@!ing idiot. But carry on with your bad self.
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    As is regularly pointed out on this forum, Trump is an idiot, a liar, and regularly uses bloated exaggeration so why would anyone put much stock into what he says? I think it's easy to figure Trump out. Sorry you are still confused.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is a lie.
    @Brian4Liberty, devil keeps spreading this lie.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I will report violations of the forum rules to the forum staff when they are egregious enough.

    You should remember that.

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