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    Did The Government Just Test The Internet Kill Switch?

    "'I felt a great disturbance in the farce, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."
    At 3pmET, it appears that Google Cloud (affecting Gmail, YouTube, SnapChat, Instagram, and Facebook among others) mysteriously (and almost unprecedently) went offline.
    A systemic network outage may have just occurred.. #ES_F pic.twitter.com/M4yP3MN8jS
    — 🅱️🅰️ (@Ba1221) June 2, 2019
    google cloud is down
    google compute engine is down
    gmail is down
    google drive is down
    nest is down
    youtube is down
    snapchat is down
    uber is down
    nextDNS is down
    Pokemon Go is down
    App Engine is down
    ...
    google advertising up
    — zerohedge (@zerohedge) June 2, 2019
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    Google Compute Engine Incident #19003 We are experiencing a multi-region issue with Google Compute Engine
    Incident began at 2019-06-02 12:25 (all times are US/Pacific).
    Jun 02, 20 12:25 We are investigating an issue with Google Compute Engine. We will provide more information by Sunday, 2019-06-02 12:45 US/Pacific.
    One Google insider explains (via YCombinator):
    I work on Google Cloud (but disclaimer, I'm on vacation and so not much use to you!).
    We're having what appears to be a serious networking outage. It's disrupting everything, including unfortunately the tooling we usually use to communicate across the company about outages.
    There are backup plans, of course, but I wanted to at least come here to say: you're not crazy, nothing is lost (to those concerns downthread), but there is serious packet loss at the least. You'll have to wait for someone actually involved in the incident to say more.
    The internet is having a very bad day...

    So far, no one has blamed Russia...yet!
    East Coast suffering worst of Google Cloud outage for now... pic.twitter.com/UMdIpUlZZ7
    — Tim Backshall (@credittrader) June 2, 2019
    Europe is also affected...
    With #GoogleDOWN we learn a valuable lesson about hosting services on other people’s infrastructure. #YouTubeDOWN #snapchatDOWN pic.twitter.com/lwWpoXllk0
    — Charles (@iffycode) June 2, 2019
    Ironically...
    The notification gateway to advise Google that cloud is down, is also on the cloud... and is down.
    — zerohedge (@zerohedge) June 2, 2019
    Twitter is beside itself...
    Google Cloud’s services are down. Also why Pokemon Go is down. pic.twitter.com/I7pvghIIej
    — Kevin Beaumont (@GossiTheDog) June 2, 2019
    If you have friends using Google Cloud Platform, it's a good time to send them thoughts and prayers. #GCPisDown pic.twitter.com/FsO6z14A6c
    — 𝙰𝚛𝚊𝚌𝚑 𝚃𝚌𝚑𝚘𝚞𝚙𝚊𝚗𝚒 (@arach) June 2, 2019
    Did the government just test-fire its Internet kill-switch?



    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...et-kill-switch
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    youtube was down for some people during the NBA playoffs and it seems to be worldwide. People from all over were complainiing in the chat that the audio to the nba stream was out, some didnt have pic or audio.

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    Youtube was acting weird yesterday but I didn't notice it on any other platforms.
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    Youtube was acting weird yesterday.
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    I wasn't affected because I rarely use the google spy suite of services.
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    Zerohedge does seem to run on panic mode and over-hype situations.

    https://www.geekwire.com/2019/networ...also-affected/

    At 12:25pm PT, Google Cloud acknowledged that it was having issues with the core Google Compute Engine service, later updating its status page to point the blame at unspecified problems with Google Cloud Networking. Details are scant, but at first blush the outage sounds similar to the networking-related outage that Microsoft suffered last month that affected service for hours.

    Major Google services including Gmail, Google Calendar, and Google Hangouts were also affected by the outage, according to the G Suite status page. Service appeared to be working normally on the West Coast of the U.S. with the exception of Google Analytics, which was not working in Portland Sunday afternoon.

    Widely used services such as YouTube and Snapchat were also down in the affected regions, which appeared to include parts of the Northeast and Europe. DownDetector, which tracks user-submitted reports of outages, observed a large outage in Europe as of 1:25pm PT Sunday for Snapchat, one of Google Cloud’s largest customers.

    The outage is a black eye for Google’s attempts to portray itself as the most reliable cloud computing service during its Google Cloud Next event in April. The sources cited by Google on a presentation slide making that claim during a major keynote address were unwilling to back up Google’s conclusions when contacted by GeekWire after the event.

    As of 1:21pm PT, Google said that engineers were working to mitigate the issues and promised to share more details by 2pm PT. We’ll update this post as more information becomes available.

    Update 1:44pm PT: In an update to the Google Compute Engine status page, Google shared a little more information about the problems and promised a fix was on the way.

    We are experiencing high levels of network congestion in the eastern USA, affecting multiple services in Google Cloud, GSuite and YouTube. Users may see slow performance or intermittent errors. We believe we have identified the root cause of the congestion and expect to a return to normal service shortly.

    Update 3:06pm PT: Google updated its status page again: “Our engineering teams have completed the first phase of their mitigation work and are currently implementing the second phase, after which we expect to return to normal service. We will provide an update at 16:00 US/Pacific.”

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    As for the "Internet Kill Switch": https://www.pcworld.com/article/2188...ll_switch.html

    Why There's No Such Thing as an Internet Kill Switch

    Resistance is Futile
    The Internet was created as a communications network that could not be stopped. The radically distributed, flexible architecture was designed to survive a nuclear attack, with information packets "routing around" the damage. The Internet Protocol Suite, which is also known as TCP/IP, is the stuff the Internet is made of.

    A protocol is nothing more than a set of rules. The Internet works because servers and software obey these rules.

    The Internet protocols make sure that the instructions for any click of a link, sending of an e-mail or tweeting of a tweet are broken down into tiny, individually addressed packets of data and sent on their way along whatever path offers least resistance.

    The rules provide flexibility, and the flexibility provides reliability.

    But what happens when you shut down the servers that obey these rules, and do it on a national level? As we learned in Egypt, you can shut down Internet access to an entire nation, and the data still routes around the damage.

    Why the Egyptian Internet Shutdown Failed
    Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak achieved at least one thing nobody else ever has: He shut down the Internet connection to an entire country for five days.

    Or did he?

    The Egyptian uprising began on Jan. 25, organized online via American social media sites like Twitter and Facebook. Two days later, the government ordered the nation's Internet service providers (ISPs) to cut off Internet access. The following day, the government shut down the nation's cell phone carriers. The government apparently hoped that taking away the main way people organized and communicated might stop the protest movement.

    Like the Grinch, who thought taking away Whoville's presents would keep Christmas from coming, the Egyptian government learned that people can use the Internet even without Internet access. Those packets of data found a way around the damage.

    A Ph.D student at UCLA named John Scott-Railton, who speaks Arabic, has friends in Egypt and sympathizes with the anti-government protesters, set up a Twitter feed named @jan25voices to broadcast messages over the microblogging service directly from Egyptians.

    At first, he called friends on their cell phones when those were still working. But as cell phone service became spotty, he began collecting landline phone numbers of friends, and the friends of friends, inside Egypt. So throughout the digital shutoff, Scott-Railton continued to call Egyptians to transmit their messages directly to the world via Twitter.

    Google used a company it owns called SayNow, together with Twitter, to enable Egyptians to send Tweets via landline telephone call. By simply calling one of the phone numbers they published, anyone in the country could send out a tweet.

    The media began relying heavily on landlines to get information throughout the country. And the fax machine, which uses a modem to transmit images as sound over landline phone networks, suddenly came back into use during the uprising.

    Columnist John C. Dvorak wrote an interesting piece this week speculating that if he was in Egypt and had to connect to the Internet over a landline phone (a practice commonplace just 10 years ago), he's not sure he could do it. At the time he wrote the column, he may have been right.

    Then a French company called the French Data Network and an organization called We Rebuild provided means by which Egyptians with old-school modems could connect to the Internet via landline telephones.

    Why You Can't Stop the Internet
    Events in Egypt have demonstrated that the human race has evolved some Internet protocols of our own.

    The Internet protocols route around damage. Without the Internet, that routing spills over onto landline phones and other communications media. As soon as the shutdown began, people from all over the world instinctively conjured up alternative ways for people to get their messages posted online.
    All these alternative routes to the Internet popped up in less than five days. The longer the shutdown dragged on, the more new ways to connect went online. It's now clear that any sustained Internet shutdown could be circumvented no matter what.

    It's also likely that freedom-of-information advocates worldwide will learn from the Egyptian shutdown and construct a series of services designed to circumvent such future attempts.

    Meanwhile, the government of Egypt learned that shutting down the Internet comes with some harsh consequences. Foreign governments, including the U.S., began leaning on the Egyptians to restore Internet and phone service. The shutdown reduced support for the government in part by squeezing businesses that rely on the Internet. And the shutdown itself became a motivation to continue the protests and oppose the regime. From the global Internet's point of view, these actions served as something of a self-healing mechanism for the damage of a politically motivated shutdown.

    Egypt showed that the Internet is made out of people. We now spontaneously behave according to the Internet protocols, assuring the delivery of messages no matter what.

    There is no "Internet kill switch." Even if you shut down every server in a country, the human Internet just routes around the damage.



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    Probably Russia
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    I don't really see them turning it off, the government has been doing "hardening" with ISPS lately, they want to make sure another government can't kill it, I suspect though that they won't shut it off that would cause a disturbance, they would just isolate people into their own "island' using a caching system, that they are working to build a private censorship firewall that will rival the Chinese, that corporations like google are working to make a censored google so they can shop it out to governments, and our government will get it next, that they will have even created their own social reputation system that has lists of people that they punish.



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