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    Google Just Gave 2 Billion Chrome Users A Reason To Switch To Firefox

    Google is planning to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users only, according to 9to5Google. This is despite a backlash to an announcement by Google in January proposing changes that will stop current ad blockers from working efficiently.
    And the software giant is not backing down: It says the only people who can use ad blockers following the change will be Google’s enterprise users.
    The proposal–dubbed Manifest V3–will see a major transformation to Chrome extensions that includes a revamp of the permissions system. It will mean modern ad blockers such as uBlock Origin—which uses Chrome’s webRequest API to block ads before they’re downloaded–won’t work. This is because Manifest V3 sees Google halt the webRequest API’s ability to block a particular request before it’s loaded.

    People aren’t impressed. Many have complained about the move, which effectively takes control away from the user and creates an incentive to use other services instead.

    There are many users who won’t use Chrome without an ad blocker, so it will see some switch to other providers such as Firefox. However, Firefox has had its own issues over recent weeks.
    It's important to note that the changes won't stop all ad blockers from working, but exactly who is affected isn't totally clear. Google sent me a statement by email, which reads: “Chrome supports the use and development of ad blockers. We’re actively working with the developer community to get feedback and iterate on the design of a privacy-preserving content filtering system that limits the amount of sensitive browser data shared with third parties."
    For now, Wright thinks people should use Brave instead: “Brave is built upon Chromium so all existing Chrome plugins and even themes work on it. This is perhaps why it's seen an increase in user numbers.”
    Another option is using something like Pi-Hole, says Wright. “This works on the DNS level and has blacklists of adverts as well as malicious URLs.”



    More at: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateofl.../#7aabb4b1751f


    I suggest Waterfox.


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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    The owner of www.waterfoxproject.org has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Waterfox has not connected to this website.

    www.waterfoxproject.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown. The server might not be sending the appropriate intermediate certificates. An additional root certificate may need to be imported. Error code: SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER

    The owner of www.netflix.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Waterfox has not connected to this website.
    Last edited by Schifference; 05-31-2019 at 04:28 PM.

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    Downloaded Waterfox. Almost every page I try to open gives errors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Downloaded Waterfox. Almost every page I try to open gives errors.

    I'm using it right now and I don't have any problems.
    I just tried your links and they work for me.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 06-01-2019 at 02:07 AM.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The owner of www.waterfoxproject.org has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Waterfox has not connected to this website.

    www.waterfoxproject.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown. The server might not be sending the appropriate intermediate certificates. An additional root certificate may need to be imported. Error code: SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER

    The owner of www.netflix.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Waterfox has not connected to this website.
    Same problem plagues Firefox frequently on many websites as well. Its not Fire / Waterfox's issue, its that each website has to renew their security certificate every year in order to provide HTTPS requests. Lot of websites fail to do that, including both Netflix, and Microsoft who once let the domain name of hotmail.com expire one time.

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    When blocking ads becomes a permission, that permission will soon be denied should those who grant permissions place more value on money than human right and the value of monetizing the human attention span.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    I've been using firefox regularly since Opera switched to chromium a while back. I tried chrome again last week for a whole week and had to switch back. Firefox has always worked better for me- the only thing that bothers me is that it requires so much tweaking to get the best performance out of it. I tried the new mozilla fenix browser but it doesn't allow extensions right now so its not really usable. I like using privacy badger css exfill protection and decentraleyes and Local CDN and Youtube classic and canvas blocker and smart referer and clearurl and ublock origin. Chrome for android doesn't even support extensions because they want to stop adblocking so that wasn't even an option. The worst I think is they seemed to have purrposely designed youtube to work better on chrome than on other browsers it can be 5 times slower without the youtube classic extension
    Last edited by nikcers; 06-01-2019 at 03:01 AM.

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    Posted here because its directly related to the first article.

    Google Struggles To Justify Why It's Restricting Ad Blockers In Chrome
    https://developers.slashdot.org/stor...kers-in-chrome

    An anonymous reader quotes a report from Vice News:

    Google has found itself under fire for plans to limit the effectiveness of popular ad blocking extensions in Chrome. While Google says the changes are necessary to protect the "user experience" and improve extension security, developers and consumer advocates say the company's real motive is money and control. In the wake of ongoing backlash to the proposal, Chrome software security engineer Chris Palmer took to Twitter this week to claim the move was intended to help improve the end-user browsing experience, and paid enterprise users would be exempt from the changes.

    Chrome security leader Justin Schuh also said the changes were driven by privacy and security concerns. Adblock developers, however, aren't buying it. uBlock Origin developer Raymond Hill, for example, argued this week that if user experience was the goal, there were other solutions that wouldn't hamstring existing extensions. "Web pages load slow because of bloat, not because of the blocking ability of the webRequest API -- at least for well crafted extensions," Hill said. Hill said that Google's motivation here had little to do with the end user experience, and far more to do with protecting advertising revenues from the rising popularity of adblock extensions.

    The team behind the EFF's Privacy Badger ad-blocking extension also spoke out against the changes. "Google's claim that these new limitations are needed to improve performance is at odds with the state of the internet," the organization said. "Sites today are bloated with trackers that consume data and slow down the user experience. Tracker blockers have improved the performance and user experience of many sites and the user experience. Why not let independent developers innovate where the Chrome team isn't?"
    Trackers track you when google cant. Thus, Trackers make google money. And we cant let you not make google money by invading your privacy and destroying your future. Thus, they dont want you to do anything that would prevent you from seeing ads that try to sell you $#@! you dont need with money you dont have and slow down your computer to the point of basically ruining the user experience, and they really dont give a fat flying $#@! about you or your experience, all they want is to milk you out of every last dime they can, even if that means turning you into the product and selling you out until there is nothing left. World Wide Googlag.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    These are all the options that I have to put into about:config on firefox just for it work well.

    Important Modified Preferences

    apz.allow_immediate_handoff true
    apz.drag.enabled true
    apz.fixed-margin-override.enabled true
    apz.frame_delay.enabled false
    apz.paint_skipping.enabled false
    apz.relative-update.enabled false
    browser.cache.offline.enable false
    browser.display.use_system_colors true
    browser.sessionstore.max_tabs_undo 0
    browser.sessionstore.privacy_level 2
    browser.urlbar.speculativeConnect.enabled false
    dom.battery.enabled false
    dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled false
    dom.ipc.cancel_content_js_when_navigating true
    dom.ipc.processCount -1
    dom.ipc.processCount.webLargeAllocation -1
    dom.presentation.device.name Burner
    dom.webgpu.enable true
    general.useragent.override Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0
    general.useragent.override.youtube.com Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0
    gfx.downloadable_fonts.fallback_delay 30
    gfx.downloadable_fonts.fallback_delay_short 10
    gfx.font_loader.delay 80
    gfx.use_text_smoothing_setting true
    image.decode-immediately.enabled true
    layers.max-active -1
    layers.offmainthreadcomposition.frame-rate 0
    layers.omtp.enabled true
    media.allowed-to-play.enabled true
    media.gmp-widevinecdm.enabled false
    media.gpu-process-decoder true
    media.hardware-video-decoding.force-enabled true
    media.navigator.enabled false
    media.navigator.hardware.vp8_decode.acceleration_e nabled true
    media.navigator.mediadatadecoder_h264_enabled true
    media.navigator.mediadatadecoder_vpx_enabled true
    media.resume-bkgnd-video-on-tabhover false
    media.suspend-bkgnd-video.enabled false
    network.cookie.cookieBehavior 1
    network.cookie.lifetimePolicy 2
    network.dns.disablePrefetch true
    network.http.referer.trimmingPolicy 2
    network.http.referer.XOriginPolicy 2
    network.http.referer.XOriginTrimmingPolicy 2
    network.http.speculative-parallel-limit 0
    network.IDN_show_punycode true
    network.predictor.cleaned-up true
    network.predictor.enabled false
    network.prefetch-next false
    privacy.firstparty.isolate true
    privacy.resistFingerprinting true
    privacy.trackingprotection.cryptomining.enabled true
    privacy.trackingprotection.enabled true
    privacy.trackingprotection.fingerprinting.enabled true
    storage.vacuum.last.index 0
    webgl.enable-draft-extensions true
    webgl.force-enabled true
    Last edited by nikcers; 06-01-2019 at 02:42 AM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    These are all the options that I have to put into about:config on firefox just for it work well.
    As with all things technical now, the Devil is in the Defaults so thank you for sharing that!
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    *Brave

    but it remains how long google allows brave to independently use chromium

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    As with all things technical now, the Devil is in the Defaults so thank you for sharing that!
    Here is another one that is a huge QOL improvement for a lot of websites.

    dom.disable_beforeunload True
    dom.require_user_interaction_for_beforeunload false
    dom.serviceWorkers.disable_open_click_delay 1000
    gfx.webrender.all true
    gfx.use-surfacetexture-textures true
    gl.ignore-dx-interop2-blacklist true
    Last edited by nikcers; 06-06-2019 at 11:39 AM.



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