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Your opinion on that is baseless and irrational, as proven by your inability to find any reason to think it.
Given your posts in this very thread, you're in no position to complain about somebody else's ability to comprehend and use English.
To the extent that you've even been coherent, it's you and your cohorts here who have been speaking out both sides of your mouth. I shouldn't have to hold your hands as much as you're requiring just to get you to see a simple concept, and I don't think it's because you're honestly not seeing it. I think it's because you're deliberately being slippery and dishonest to avoid admitting the weakness of your position.
To wit, the question of whether or not the acts of obstruction of justice the Mueller report provides evidence of Trump having committed are worthy of impeachment is a matter of opinion about which people like Rand and Amash can reasonably have a difference of opinion. The claim that Amash is not merely mistaken, but is furthermore a supporter of the deep state, abuses of FISA warrants, a neocon, and a grandstanding swamp creature, is baseless and irrational.
See how I could say both those things and there was nothing contradictory about it?
huh?
I have a position that is opposite of Amash. I stated that opinion.
you claim to be neutral - but also claim I am making irrational and baseless accusations.
you aren't neutral. what the hell. words mean what they mean. you seem to think you can say anything and it doesn't stick
Yes. And I never criticized you just for that opposite opinion. Nor was that opinion what I called baseless and irrational (as the quote you found itself shows).
On the question of whether or not Amash is right to support impeaching Trump over this, I am.
Which you have clearly done, right here in this thread.
I don't see why you think this. I've said nothing to support this claim. Your inability to find a quote from me when I asked you to, and your resort to that quote that plainly didn't say what you asserted is proof that you have no reason to say this.
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But that right there is the whole question that you've been arguing with me about.
If you're trying to twist it into something else, then it's you who are playing rhetorical games.
Think that Trump shouldn't be impeached for the reasons Amash does? Fine. Think that the only way Amash can hold his position is by being a grandstanding swamp creature? Not fine.
It's that simple.
your apologist behavior for spying is plain bulll$#@!. Rand is playing this way too nice.
nothing I have said is irrational. Amash is wrong. period. I'm not neutral - I'm pissed and suspect he was a phony all along. or maybe he is just dumb
this is not hard to understand - so I am not sure what your problem is. every reason Amash gives shows he is in favor of the DOJ having more power. $#@! that, and $#@! him.
That's the sort of the thing people call you when you side with the swamp nowadays, if you want to be a swamp creature and side with Pelosi on the Hillary Clinton fake news than you are wrong, and when Rand says JA is wrong, he is wrong. I have defended JA probably more than anything but this is indefensable.
At least now you admit that what you're doing is not the same thing that Rand is doing.
At this point, I think we can say case closed on all this sophistry that you and your cohorts have been resorting to trying to slip around between a mere difference of opinion and the irrational and baseless accusations you've been lobbing at Amash.
People? Not just people. The Trump campaign manager. I.e. the swamp incarnate is calling Amash a grandstanding swamp creature.
You want to play the guilt by association game? Well that's who you're siding with.
Isn't it better to give both Amash and Rand the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their core allegiances, rather than resort to this argument that bad guy X says A, and good guy Y also says A, so good guy Y must be a bad guy after all.
And notably, Pelosi is doing all she can not to impeach Trump. It seems to me that you're the one siding with her, and plenty of other swamp creatures.
Last edited by Superfluous Man; 05-30-2019 at 02:47 PM.
This is one reason why Amash attacking Trump was a stupid move. If instead he lead an attack on the corrupt deep state communists, he would be winning allies and gaining stature with Republican voters and politicians. Now he is in the same place as Megyn Kelly. Remember her? She is unemployable and has no allies.
Not a great place for a libertarian Republican to be and yet he put himself into this position. Republicans won't trust him and Democrats won't either. Amash could have been working to move the GOP toward a more libertarian position, but now he is toxic.
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Even if he does, he still is left in a bad spot. Will he earn a fat paycheck? Sure. Will he help make the GOP a better party? I doubt it.
Rand has laid down the blueprint for how to make headway within the GOP and Amash instead appears to be following the AOC blueprint.
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@cleaner4d4
I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.
Yeah let's reward the deep state for weaponizing the FISA abuse and fake news by pushing their talking points. That will surely encourage them not to do it to us.
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