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    [Video] Justin Amash town hall 5/28/19

    https://www.facebook.com/fox17online...8780868617444/


    edit: here's another version that doesn't have the first minute cut out, probably is better

    https://www.facebook.com/woodtv/videos/691087261321615
    Last edited by jct74; 05-28-2019 at 08:50 PM.



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    Amash is getting noticed and getting top headlines in media (even if his popularity among GOP-neocon wing might not be rising), this is positive for Libertarian movement in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Amash is getting noticed and getting top headlines in media (even if his popularity among GOP-neocon wing might not be rising), this is positive for Libertarian movement in general.
    No it isn't, the left that is applauding him today will reject him as soon as he is no longer useful to them and he is making conservatives who might have listened to our message in the long run hate and suspect libertarians.
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    drudge headline:


    Republican gets standing ovation at first town hall after calling for Trump impeachment...

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    So what exactly did Trump do?
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    Wow, just heard his position on not allowing unvaccinated children from attending school, what a whack job.
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    The more I watch his town halls the more I realize I think that he knows what he is doing. Thomas Massie and Rand Paul are perfect for Kentucky. Amash is great for Michigan. The reverse probably wouldn't hold.

    If he holds his seat, or gets a Senate seat that would be awesome. I don't think now is the time for a Presidential run, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The more I watch his town halls the more I realize I think that he knows what he is doing. Thomas Massie and Rand Paul are perfect for Kentucky. Amash is great for Michigan. The reverse probably wouldn't hold.

    If he holds his seat, or gets a Senate seat that would be awesome. I don't think now is the time for a Presidential run, though.
    It doesn't justify his dishonorable behavior.
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    Around the 38 minutes mark, he is really confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Around the 38 minutes mark, he is really confused.
    That's charitable.
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    There is no underlining crime committed...but he is guilty of obstructing justice?!?!?!

    Amash is a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    There is no underlining crime committed...but he is guilty of obstructing justice?!?!?!

    Amash is a joke.
    He also denies that the whole investigation was based on lies etc. and tries to imply that there were underlying crimes and that Trump successfully obstructed justice.

    He is all in on the treasonous coup.
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    Near the end he tries to blame Trump for dividing the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Wow, just heard his position on not allowing unvaccinated children from attending school, what a whack job.
    It sounds like he doesn't care what rights are violated as long as it is done at a local level.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 05-29-2019 at 01:37 AM.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    He also defends letting non-citizens vote at the local level.
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    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    I wish someone had asked why he never called for O'Bummer's impeachment.
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    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    His priority on immigration is to process the invaders into the welfare state faster.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He also defends letting non-citizens vote at the local level.

    Hadn't Gotten that far before I turn that $#@! off.
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    OK, I continued. He believes Russians were involved in our elections...

    So what? We can't think and vote independently? No mention of Israeli involvement in our elections...
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    1:21. she owns him.

    Then he taps dances...
    Last edited by Danke; 05-29-2019 at 02:45 AM.
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    1:35!

    He believes in Global Warming climate change. lol
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    I like what Amash is doing and I'm glad Massie and Rand are staying toward the right. I think testing a left-appealing libertarian position is a good strategy, and Amash is definitely grabbing media attention which is good. If he runs for president, I want him to run in the republican primary, not go libertarian party.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No it isn't, the left that is applauding him today will reject him as soon as he is no longer useful to them and he is making conservatives who might have listened to our message in the long run hate and suspect libertarians.
    Justin is "Changing the Tone", contrary to the duopoly in power, and critical to this movement. He is young, in touch, and reaching the young generation. I applaud Justin and fully support him.

    Rand can do his thing in the senate. I remember when Rand was heavily railed on this forum, he seemed to have overcome his detractors.

    Justin has a 94% Freedom Index, among the highest in the Congress and on both sides of the isle. Instead of slitting his throat in every post that you make, he needs more of us to get behind him.

    But you are a STATIST NEOCON SHILL so that goes over your head. I do, however, appreciate many of the threads that you start.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No it isn't, the left that is applauding him today will reject him as soon as he is no longer useful to them and he is making conservatives who might have listened to our message in the long run hate and suspect libertarians.
    Wow. Welcome to 2008. I remember Conservatives in a complete meltdown when Ron Paul suggested we "invited 9/11 attacks".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He also defends letting non-citizens vote at the local level.
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Hadn't Gotten that far before I turn that $#@! off.

    That is the FULL-BLOWN STATIST position.

    I support all people voting at the local level if that is what they wish to do. If you choose to homestead an open area, or open a business, and others in your locale also, it is up to that close-knit community to make decisions amongst themselves without state or federal interference.

    Voting at the local level does not require registering with or funding "The Fed". It brings it back to the local level where it should be, and according to the 10th Amendment.

    I understand why the Bill of Rights is being shredded though... it is not "invaders"... it is people like you who believe and support Restrictionism, Constitution Free Zones and government Eminent Domain - which are all communist/globalist agendas.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    OK, I continued. He believes Russians were involved in our elections...

    So what? We can't think and vote independently? No mention of Israeli involvement in our elections...
    Those are very good points.
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    The problem I have with Amash's position is that EVERY President has been as guilty and more so of high crimes and misdemeanors and most often War Crimes. Why die on this hill when the Russia Gate hoax was clearly a charade to get Trump to make a slip up.
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    Justin: "Under the current administration spending is sky-rocketing."

    The lady around the :37 minute mark who can "think for herself"... understands NOTHING about obstruction.

    She said: "trump is all for limited government."

    Justin said: "President trump is not at all for limited government. That's just not true at all."

    The lady said: "I can't debate you on that because I haven't researched that. However he wants to get rid of the Department of Education."

    Justin said: "He's free to do so. He's the president. He's the president, he could make a move to do so."

    The lady said: "Ok, we'll just move on, this isn't going anywhere."
    Last edited by PAF; 05-29-2019 at 07:08 AM.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

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