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    Israel parliament takes first step to hold new elections due to deadlock

    Israel's parliament on Monday took a first step toward holding new elections due to deadlocked coalition negotiations following April polls, giving preliminary approval to a law to dissolve itself.Three more votes are required for final approval of the law, which would result in new elections being held. The vote was 65-43 with six abstentions, according to parliament's website.
    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been unable to reach a deal to form a governing coalition ahead of a Wednesday night deadline to do so.
    He was due to speak in parliament at 8:00 pm (1700 GMT).
    Ex-defence minister Avigdor Lieberman has prevented a deal by refusing to budge from a key demand.
    Holding elections so close to one another would be unprecedented in Israel, and there have been concerns over the cost and prolonged political paralysis that would result.
    It would also be a major setback for Netanyahu, who received support on Monday from his close ally US President Donald Trump.
    "Hoping things will work out with Israel's coalition formation and Bibi and I can continue to make the alliance between America and Israel stronger than ever. A lot more to do!" Trump, currently visiting Japan, said on Twitter, using Netanyahu's nickname.


    https://news.yahoo.com/israel-parlia...164400409.html
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    Shameful US reporting. They leave out pertinent details.

    Hereís the scoop:

    Lieberman's party has been at odds with ultra-Orthodox parties Shas and United Torah Judaism, which won eight seats each, over a military conscription bill that would make it mandatory for Haredi men studying the Torah - currently exempt from service - to join Israel's armed forces.

    Lieberman has long said that all Israeli men must equally share the burden of mandatory military service. Ultra-Orthodox parties, however, say seminary students should remain exempt from conscription, as they have been since Israel's founding in 1948.

    "We have made our position clear since 2018: We will not agree to any change in the draft bill," Lieberman said at the news conference, adding that he did not want to be part of a "halakah [Jewish law] government".
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    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu urgently worked to break a deadlock in coalition negotiations Tuesday as the once far-fetched possibility of fresh general elections only months after April polls loomed ever larger.Netanyahu has until Wednesday night to reach a coalition deal, but he has been unable to convince ex-defence minister Avigdor Lieberman to abandon a key demand and allow a government to be formed.
    Failing to do so would be a major setback for Netanyahu, and the stakes are especially high with the premier facing possible indictment for corruption in the months ahead.
    There have been reports that Netanyahu is seeking legislation in the new parliament that would result in him receiving immunity from prosecution, and new elections would delay those efforts and may make it impossible.
    Beyond that, he faces the risk of Israeli President Reuven Rivlin opting to give the task of forming a new government to someone other than him.
    Late Tuesday, a parliamentary committee approved the wording of the bill to dissolve itself and hold new elections, the Knesset said in a statement, with the two further votes needed to finalise it scheduled to take place Wednesday afternoon.
    The prime minister has sought to pile pressure on Lieberman, whose nationalist Yisrael Beitenu party's five seats are crucial to the coalition Netanyahu wants to form, but he has refused to back down.
    - 'Principles and promises' -
    The dispute hinges on Lieberman's demand that legislation he supports aimed at having ultra-Orthodox Jews perform mandatory military service like other Jewish Israelis be approved without changes.
    The issue is highly sensitive in Israel and the legislation is opposed by ultra-Orthodox parties, who control 16 seats in parliament and are set to become a key member of Netanyahu's coalition.
    "We are not looking to bring down Netanyahu and we are not looking for an alternative candidate, but we will not give up our principles and promises to the citizens of the state of Israel," Lieberman wrote on his Facebook page on Tuesday.
    Netanyahu said in an address late Monday that Lieberman was being unreasonable and that there was "no reason to drag the country to unnecessary elections that will cost a fortune and paralyse us all for another half a year."
    US President Donald Trump also tweeted in support of Netanyahu on Monday, while the White House announced Tuesday that his son-in-law Jared Kushner would visit Jerusalem later this week along with Morocco and Jordan.
    Kushner's visit is likely to include talks on Trump's upcoming Israeli-Palestinian peace plan ahead of an economic conference related to it on June 25-26 in Bahrain.


    If a deal is not reached by midnight Wednesday, Rivlin could give Netanyahu another two weeks if he concludes the premier is the only person capable of forming a government.
    Alternatively, Rivlin could ask another member of parliament to take on the task.
    Netanyahu is widely seen as preferring new elections rather than leaving the choice up to Rivlin due to the possibility someone else could be selected.
    He could also seek to form a minority government.
    At a secretariat meeting Tuesday the Likud approved joining the four-seat centrist Kulanu headed by Finance Minister Moshe Kahlon to their list in case of early elections, in another indication of preparedness and willingness to face polls again.
    "Our unity has brought us victory against the media and Left," Netanyahu told Likud members at the meeting. "We'll continue together, no matter what, and win together."

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/israeli-elect...093759178.html
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    teleSUR English
    @telesurenglishBREAKING | Netanyahu fails to form government. Parliament has been dissolved, snap Israeli elections on Sep, 17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    teleSUR English
    @telesurenglishBREAKING | Netanyahu fails to form government. Parliament has been dissolved, snap Israeli elections on Sep, 17.
    This will be interesting.
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    to sum up:


    https://twitter.com/JoyFFisher/statu...51362230513666


    https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/...25704720830467


    New elections will prevent Netanyahu from passing laws giving himself immunity from three pending indictments for bribery, fraud and breach of trust.

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    The Haredim (ultra-Orthodox), who refuse to do military service because it detracts from their religious studies, are the fastest growing demographic group in Israel, which lends weight to their political demands.Increasingly hawkish security policies. Already, Lieberman and Netanyahu are trading jabs over who is a "leftist," suggesting that the contenders for the September elections will make increasingly hard-line promises regarding policies to counter Palestinian militancy and Iran's regional activities.
    Corruption at the government level. During coalition negotiations, Netanyahu reportedly requested future help with legislation that would grant him immunity from any charges related to three serious graft cases in which he is embroiled. The prime minister will face a hearing in early October over the cases, but given that the snap polls will not occur until mid-September, he will hardly have enough time to force through any legislation to protect himself — even if he does win the elections soundly.
    Economic strain. The economic cost of another election will inflame concerns over government waste. Israel's finance minister warned on May 29 that a new election would cost 475 million shekels (or $131 million) to stage.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/artic...ikud-lieberman
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    Blue and White Party leader Benny Gantz began his campaign in Israel's election re-run by slamming rival Benjamin Netanyahu and hitting out at the cost of the country's second snap election in a year, the Times of Israel reported June 2. The prime minister, meanwhile, dismissed two Cabinet members representing the New Right party.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situa...ters-dismissed
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    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been unable to reach a deal
    Needs a few lessons on The Art Of The Deal from President Trump & Javanka.

    A series of soothing Tweets would probably do it.
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    https://twitter.com/walid970721/stat...04851120136192




    https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1136203507256713216
    Last edited by goldenequity; 06-08-2019 at 05:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post

    https://twitter.com/walid970721/stat...04851120136192




    https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1136203507256713216
    I think I saw an article a day or two after that that said he was persuaded not to appoint himself justice minister.
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    Netanyahu is Gambling on New Elections to Stay in Power

    JERUSALEM — For the first time in the history of the state of Israel, the head of the party that won the largest number of seats has failed to form a coalition government. Rather than allowing the head of the party that came in second to attempt to form a government, the Knesset voted to hold re-elections only six weeks after Israelis first cast their ballots.

    Could this be the end the political career of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu? It seems that this is indeed what the heads of several political parties here are determined to achieve. Not unlike hyenas who see a broken down and weak lion and go for the kill, the same Israeli politicians who made a coalition government with him impossible see a weak Netanyahu and hope that another election will finish him off. Still, elections are a risk for all involved — one that Netanyahu decided to take.
    ...
    When the dust settled and the horse trading commenced, Netanyahu began to work with anyone who would support him. The Ultra-Orthodox Jewish or Haredi parties, which between them received 16 seats in the Knesset, were obvious partners. They have serious issues regarding the State’s attempts to force the Haredi community to serve in the army, breaking away from a seven-decade status quo in which they were exempt. Pending satisfaction on that score, they were in.

    Netanyahu needed more partners to reach the required 61 votes. Two other partners brought him to 56 but he still needed another party to join the coalition, and that is where the wheels came off the wagon. The next logical party to join him was led by Avigdor Lieberman, a corrupt, violent politician about whom volumes can be written. Lieberman served as Netanyahu’s minister of defense and then resigned because he felt that Netanyahu was not tough enough on Hamas in Gaza.

    Lieberman said he would not compromise on the issue of the Haredi draft — he supports a law that would force that community to be conscripted into the army — and thus it was impossible for him to join a coalition with the Haredi parties. The only other option was a national unity government, where the two largest parties unite and create a broad coalition. This is quite common in Israel, as the leaders of two parties that fought each other tooth and nail stand together and say that for the sake of the nation they will “put their differences aside.“
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    More: https://www.mintpressnews.com/netany...-power/258931/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Netanyahu is Gambling on New Elections to Stay in Power
    So in other words like the first few times that he won his trying to rig the elections?



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