Rand says Amash wrong to call for Trump's impeachment.

[angelatc]

Yes it does, you can't obstruct an illegal investigation, Trump should have just fired Mueller if political concerns hadn't dictated otherwise.

Ironically, the attempt to fire Mueller is one of the actions that some people say could be considered obstruction.

[angelatc]

Rand is right and Amash is being stupid. Calling for the impeachment of Trump does nothing positive and only alienates him from Republican voters. It is a situation where Amash can only lose. This leaves me wondering... what was the purpose?

Why is it so hard to fathom that he put principles over politics?

[Swordsmyth]

Ironically, the attempt to fire Mueller is one of the actions that some people say could be considered obstruction.

People with TDS.

And they would be the political considerations I mentioned.

[Swordsmyth]

Why is it so hard to fathom that he put principles over politics?

He didn't, he is putting politics over principles.

[UWDude]

Why is it so hard to fathom that he put principles over politics?

Because he has not done anything about a hoax investigation for two years.

that some people say could be considered

Sounds legit.

[TER]

Why is it so hard to fathom that he put principles over politics?

if you knew that taking a stand to satisfy a personal principle or selfish desire for justice would most likely lead to a state which would be much worse for innocent people around you, would you do it?

[angelatc]

People with TDS.

And they would be the political considerations I mentioned.

Disagreeing with Trump isn't always TDS any more than disagreeing with Obama is racist. Stop that.

[angelatc]

if you knew that taking a stand to satisfy a personal principle or selfish desire for justice would most likely lead to a state which would be much worse for innocent people around you, would you do it?

This isn't a selfish desire. He took an oath.

In this particular position, where my job was to uphold the law, even if it was at the expense of people around me, I hope I would do what I thought was right, even if I knew I'd be pissing off a lot of people.

[TER]

In this particular position, where my job was to uphold the law, even if it was at the expense of people around me, I hope I would do what I thought was right, even if I knew I'd be pissing off a lot of people.

The option was not pissing off a lot of people. It was causing a condition whereby innocent people would suffer.

[Swordsmyth]

Disagreeing with Trump isn't always TDS any more than disagreeing with Obama is racist. Stop that.

I never said it was but IT IS in this case, the treasonous coup was illegal from the start and at every point along the way.

[UWDude]

This isn't a selfish desire. He took an oath.

In this particular position, where my job was to uphold the law, even if it was at the expense of people around me, I hope I would do what I thought was right, even if I knew I'd be pissing off a lot of people.

He sure has failed at upholding the law for two years. Now he suddenly cares?
WTFEVER

[angelatc]

Because he has not done anything about a hoax investigation for two years.



Sounds legit.

I think we are all forgetting that the Trump team called for Amash's ouster in a 2017 rally. Or apparently we didn't care, because we have Trump delusional syndrome.

According to the WSJ, Amash stated that Trump should stop questioning the legitimacy of the judiciary before the Mueller investigation commenced. Mueller's report said that Congress should decide if Trumps actions were considered obstruction. Amash is in Congress.

[angelatc]

He sure has failed at upholding the law for two years. Now he suddenly cares?
WTFEVER

What law did he not uphold?

[angelatc]

I never said it was but IT IS in this case, the treasonous coup was illegal from the start and at every point along the way.

The investigation may have been a sham, but it was not illegal.

[Swordsmyth]

I think we are all forgetting that the Trump team called for Amash's ouster in a 2017 rally. Or apparently we didn't care, because we have Trump delusional syndrome.

According to the WSJ, Amash stated that Trump should stop questioning the legitimacy of the judiciary before the Mueller investigation commenced. Mueller's report said that Congress should decide if Trumps actions were considered obstruction. Amash is in Congress.

Trump called for his ouster because he was on board the Russiagate bandwagon and I need details about Amash telling trump to stop questioning the legitimacy of the judiciary but if it was about the treasonous coup then he was wrong and if it was about all of the judges legislating from the bench to block Trump's agenda then he was wrong.

Amash is perverting the Constitution with his laughable definition of impeachable offenses.

[Swordsmyth]

The investigation may have been a sham, but it was not illegal.

Yes it was.

Why does your link lead to a real estate site?

[angelatc]

Yes it was.

Why does your link lead to a real estate site?

Brave screws it up. Here is the document authorizing the investigation. https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-re...67231/download

[Swordsmyth]

Brave screws it up. Here is the document authorizing the investigation. https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-re...67231/download

That doesn't make it legal, the entire conspiracy has been riddled with illegalities and lies and the Mueller investigation had no legitimate basis, you can't just start an investigation of someone because you don't like them and conspiring to frame them doesn't let you do it either.

How have you managed to miss everything about this?

[angelatc]

Trump called for his ouster because he was on board the Russiagate bandwagon and the I need detail about Amash telling trump to stop questioning the legitimacy of the judiciary but if it was about the treasonous coup then he was wrong and if it was about all of the judges legislating from the bench to block Trump's agenda then he was wrong.

Amash is perverting the Constitution with his laughable definition of impeachable offenses.

Amash was on the Russiagate train? I didn't see that. Please link. What I saw was that AMash was accusing him of over-playing the scary terrorist card. ""Ultimately, the executive order appears to be more about politics than safety," Amash said. "If the concern is radicalism and terrorism, then what about Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and others?"

Trump also clashed with Amash when he refused to vote for Obamacare-lite.

Trump, apparently still smarting from being forced last week to drop a plan to replace the Affordable Care Act in the face of conservative intransigence, went on Twitter to say his supporters "must fight" members of the so-called Freedom Caucus that opposed the bill, presumably drumming up opposition for them in next year's elections if they "don't get on the team & fast."

That would include Amash, a Republican from Cascade Township, who was clear in his refusal to back House Speaker Paul Ryan's plan to replace the 2010 Democratic-led health care reform law throughout recent weeks, saying its system of continuing subsidies and insurance requirements effectively made it "Obamacare 2.0."

Trump's a bully - we've always known that.

[angelatc]

That doesn't make it legal...

It actually does.

Apparently you're attempting to redefine the world legal.

[UWDude]

The investigation may have been a sham, but it was not illegal.

Like hell it wasn't.

You can't poop in my mouth and tell me its chocolate.

People must hang for this.

Abusing the FISA court is illegal. It's fraud on the highest level.
That it was knowingly conspired with MI5 and MI6, against the duly elected president of the United States, makes it treason.

There must be executions.

[Swordsmyth]

It actually does.

Apparently you're attempting to redefine the world legal.

No i'm not, which is why you cut off the rest of what I said in your quote.

Let's get real simple and just ignore everything that came before Mueller:

Rosenstein: You should fire Comey because he did bad things

Also Rosenstein: I'm appointing a special counsel to investigate whether firing Comey was obstruction of justice

That's Entrapment and any investigation based on it it ILLEGAL.

[Swordsmyth]

Amash was on the Russiagate train? I didn't see that. Please link.

Rep. Justin Amash Considers Independent Investigation After Comey Firing

I'm done with Amash

Amash on Trump-Putin Press Conference

He actually dared to criticize Ron and Rand about this one.

[UWDude]

Testified they were so concerned about the president being influenced by agents of Russia, yet they never warned him.

Doesn't sound like they were concerned at all. Sounds like they wanted him to be in collusion with Russian agents.

They even tried to sting him.

[Swordsmyth]

Amash was on the Russiagate train? I didn't see that. Please link.

[UWDude]

Is it legal to use the FBI to frame the president for treason?

[Swordsmyth]

Is it legal to use the FBI to frame the president for treason?

While conspiring with foreign governments.

[enhanced_deficit]

This was way before China tariffs were applied.

Wonder if part of it is tribal, had read while back he was from a Palestinian family and MAGA was from a Jewish family. Puting on somewhat collectivist 'Mexican Judge' bias hat on for a moment.

[Swordsmyth]

This is way before China tariffs.

Wonder if part of it is tribal, him being from a Palestinian family and Trump being from a Jewish family.

Trump promised tariffs all along and called for them for many years before he ran:

https://twitter.com/PolishPatriotTM/...29681108451328

But other theories about Amash's motives may be true or it may be a combination of multiple motives that caused him to catch TDS.

[UWDude]

This was way before China tariffs were applied.

Wonder if part of it is tribal, had read while back he was from a Palestinian family and MAGA was from a Jewish family. Puting on somewhat collectivist 'Mexican Judge' bias hat on for a moment.

Maybe he is just jar of mustard stupid, and believes all the russia collusion BS.