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Thread: 43 percent say socialism is a "good thing" for America

  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Don't answer a question with more questions.

    If an armed tank column and division of troops charged across the border to hold territory, is it socialism to call up the citizen militias to repel them?

    Yes or no?
    Without being specific, it is a trick question, one that statists in the mainstream news uses. You answer mine and I will answer yours:

    Private property, or unused land that could be homesteaded

    This is a good response:

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    No. As long as participation, including funding, is voluntary.
    Last edited by PAF; 05-21-2019 at 02:54 PM.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    This is a good response:
    Glad you agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    OK, so we've determined that a border and territory is a tangible thing, and now we're just arguing about the ways and means to defend it.

    Thank you.

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    OK. But if you're for government imposed immigration restriction, you're not just for a little government, you're for a massive police state. For the majority of this nation's history when people could freely move themselves across the nation's borders and were free to get jobs and hire employees without getting the government's permission, there was still a government, just not one as big as the kind you support.
    Nor was there tax funded programs for them to sign up for and use which is what needs to be returned to but will not .
    Do something Danke

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by ATruepatriot View Post
    Trust me I do understand everything you share here. I understand it very well. The thing is the options are not the equal same/same. What's coming from the left is 100 times more oppressive than what we have now if allowed to succeed. And if you have a better option available that can succeed to prevent this reality in the next year I'm all ears.
    There is no real right/left- just politicians chanting the right buzzwords to keep their constituents happy. The whole right/left thing is a sham to keep everyone's eye off what's really going on.
    There is no spoon.

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    You will have a supermajority that favor huge government relatively quickly in any country with open borders, they will come for the prosperity and vote to share in it by force.

    Our original uncontrolled immigration played a major part in getting us where we are and if we go back to it we will be a communist country in one generation.
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