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Thread: Federal judge rules Trump cannot block subpoena for financial records

  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Only records of time WHILE in public office, NOT records from their time BEFORE in public office, yes? If so, then we agree.
    Yes, fully agree.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”



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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Yes, fully agree.
    in which case it should be a law, not due by the whims of a committee. and should be public record available for everybody to see -- not just a secret committee, and be required of EVERYBODY, not just the president. I'll not hold my breath waiting for these committee members to push such a requirement...

  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    in which case it should be a law, not due by the whims of a committee. and should be public record available for everybody to see -- not just a secret committee, and be required of EVERYBODY, not just the president. I'll not hold my breath waiting for these committee members to push such a requirement...
    I do not like the word "law", due to the only law I recognize is Natural Law. I like the words "condition of employment" which abides by contract rights ;-)

    Agree?
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I do not like the word "law", due to the only law I recognize is Natural Law. I like the words "condition of employment" which abides by contract rights ;-)

    Agree?
    Sure. However, constitutionally, what would be required to add conditions of employment upon elected representatives? An amendment?

  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Sure. However, constitutionally, what would be required to add conditions of employment upon elected representatives? An amendment?
    I am not big on the centralist created constitution either, so I would just stick with "condition of employment". Once in public office all records would be automatically made available (FOIA).
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    When have you ever had to hand over your papers to a house committee?
    Good point, I’m not a billionaire with corporate locations in multiple countries while I am a president trying to influence world politics and economies.
    No - No - No - No
    2016

  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    Good point, I’m not a billionaire with corporate locations in multiple countries while I am a president trying to influence world politics and economies.
    And as far as I know, he isn't involved in those corporations currently. as I mentioned, if they wanted to require his records from his time in office, I would approve that (as long as it was required of all officials, and was open to the public for all) but his dealings outside his time in office is nobody elses business.

  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    Nope. If I have to hand over my papers then so does trump.
    Only to the same people you have to.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What you are is an AI bot. There is no respect, whether for enemy, friend or your idol. There is certainly no concern for your fellow man, because men are clearly not your fellows. There is only a lot of cut and paste, a lot of repetition (until you're called on it, then there's repetition of something else) a baud rate of about a million, and a post rate of a hundred a minute. And a constant repetition of your parameters.

    Well if Bryan wants to run a testing ground for AI bots that's his business.
    LOL

    Why don't you just go all the way and call me a Russian Bot?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  12. #130
    If he has nothing to hide then there is nothing to fear!


    ^Honestly I’m just trolling a little. I don’t care one or another. Left is hoping to go fishing for something to use against trump for his re-election. And I don’t care enough about to trump to defend him. *shrugs.

    Politics is just entertainment for the rich class. Their chosen are the only ones with a chance to get into any position of power.
    No - No - No - No
    2016

  13. #131
    ITT: More "libertarians" suffering from TDS supporting police state tactics and the shredding of the fourth amendment.

  14. #132
    that 'other' subpoena...


    https://twitter.com/NOD008/status/1131286686061727746

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