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Thread: Amash is saying Trump has engaged in an impeachable offense

  1. #631
    the public gets to vote in the fall elections of 2020. i cannot see how any impeachment trial can be over with before X-mas.



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  5. #633
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    (AMONG AMERICANS)

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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

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  10. #638
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Yeah. It is unfucking believeable that Bryan has allowed these forums to become Swordsmyth vs Zippy. Neither of them are actually supporting Libertarians - they just lecture us on why we shouldn't.
    That was NEVER a libertarian forum. Surely, you know that. You've been around as long as I have.
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  11. #639
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Our worst fears have started to come true and other Republicans have started to join Amash's call. If this devastating trend continued, could cause irreparable damage to respected globalist and neoconservative Shledon Adelson's bold investment in 2020 elections:]
    That's pretty stupid conclusion, don't you think? I don't particular want Elizabeth Warren, but perhaps you do.
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  12. #640
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post

    That's pretty stupid conclusion, don't you think? I don't particular want Elizabeth Warren, but perhaps you do.
    f this devastating trend continued, could cause irreparable damage to respected globalist and neoconservative Shledon Adelson's bold investment in 2020 elections
    Is this conclusion accurate or not? If this drip drip bleeding of Republicans/former supporters support continued (GOA, Foxnews, Coulter, Drudge Report, Mattis, Kasich, Tea Party leaders jumping ship so far), won't GOP-Sheldon Adelson wing suffer irreparable damage in 2020?
    There is already increasing discomfort within America-First GOP factions over leaks that MAGA's top donor was Israeli military soldier who wanted their children to serve in Isreali military instead of American.
    There is no chance of GOPA wing coming back (at least as Republicans) if it did not survive 2020.

    As for your projection about EW being the only alternative, why are you completely ruling out possibility of Rand, Sanford, Pence or some other Republican rising to the occasion and assuming that Right wing globalist neocons or Left wing globalist wing neocons funded politicians are the only two options?
    It was mindset like this that led to 8 years of "anti war" neocons agenda propagation by Obama under #FoolMe1.0 flip-flop campaign.



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  14. #641
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    That was NEVER a libertarian forum. Surely, you know that. You've been around as long as I have.
    Weird. Liberty Forest isn't libertarian? Perhaps it's not Libertarian Party, per se, but not libertarian? It certainly isn't "Republican". Most people back then just held their noses and tolerated the GOP for a while as a means to an end.
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  15. #642
    Things are spinning out of control fast.



    In closed-door Senate meet, McConnell gave PowerPoint presentation about impeachment process

    This is not going to be seen as defending MAGA at a time when drip drip defections of Republicans are taking place almost every other day.
    With friends like these...

    McConnell tells Senate Republicans to be ready for impeachment trial of Trump
    Oct. 16, 2019
    Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told Republican senators Wednesday to be ready for an impeachment trial of President Trump as soon as Thanksgiving, as the Senate began to brace for a political maelstrom that would engulf the nation.
    An air of inevitability has taken hold in Congress, with the expectation Trump will become the third president in history to be impeached — and Republicans believe they need to prepare to defend the president. While McConnell briefed senators on what would happen during a Senate trial, House GOP leaders convened what they expect will be regular impeachment strategy sessions.
    In their closed-door weekly luncheon, McConnell gave a PowerPoint presentation about the impeachment process and fielded questions alongside his staff and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), who was a manager for the 1998 impeachment of President Bill Clinton.


    Steve Bannon says Trump may be impeached ‘in six weeks

  16. #643
    ROMNEY DOWNLOADS ON TRUMP: MAY VOTE TO REMOVE!

    The Liberation of Mitt Romney

    The newly rebellious senator has become an outspoken dissident in Trump’s Republican Party, just in time for the president’s impeachment trial.

    McKay Coppins
    Oct 20, 2019

    Updated: Sunday, October 20, 2019, at 9:32 p.m. ET
    Mitt Romney is leaning forward in his chair, his eyes flashing, his voice sharp.

    It’s a strange look for the 72-year-old senator, who typically affects a measured, somber tone when discussing Donald Trump’s various moral deficiencies. But after weeks of escalating combat with the president—over Ukraine, and China, and Syria, and impeachment—the gentleman from Utah suddenly appears ready to unload.

    What set him off was my recitation of an argument I’ve heard some Republicans deploy lately to excuse Trump’s behavior. Electing a president, the argument goes, is like hiring a plumber—you don’t care about his character, you just want him to get the job done. Sitting in his Senate office, Romney is indignant. “Are you worried that your plumber overcharges you?” he asks. “Are you worried that the plumber’s going to scream at your kids? Are you worried that the plumber is going to squeal out of your driveway?” I am playing devil’s advocate; he is attempting an exorcism.

    To Romney, Trump’s performance as president is inextricably tangled up in his character. “Berating another person, or calling them names, or demeaning a class of people, not telling the truth—those are not private things,” he says, adding: “If during the campaign you pay a porn star $130,000, that now comes into the public domain.”


    At this, Romney glances over at two of his aides who are watching silently from the other end of the room, and grins. “They’re going, Oh gosh, shut up.”






    Related

    Rush Limbaugh claims Mitt Romney told Nancy Pelosi the Senate would convict Trump. It isn’t true.


    By Thomas Burr
    Updated: September 30, 2019
    Washington • Syndicated conservative talking head Rush Limbaugh falsely claimed to his massive audience this week that Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, told House Speaker Nancy Pelosi that enough Senate Republicans would break ranks to remove President Donald Trump from office.
    Limbaugh, who has a wide following among Trump supporters, said on his Wednesday program that “yesterday and today Sen. Mitt Romney, Republican, Utah, had phone calls or meetings, whatever, with Pelosi and assured her there was Republican support to remove Trump.”
    The headline on Limbaugh's website touting a transcript of his remarks declares, “Mitt Romney Cozies Up to Pelosi on Impeachment.”
    https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics...h-claims-mitt/


    'Friends' of Mitt Romney create site selling merch, encouraging Utah senator to run against Trump
    Oct 13th, 2019

  17. #644
    With all due respect Mr Amash, what have you done...


    Trump impeachment odds skyrocket to 62% on popular betting website
    Ben Winck
    Associated Press


    • The popular betting website PredictIt on Tuesday saw its odds of President Donald Trump's impeachment in the House soar as high as $0.62 against the dollar, implying a roughly 62% probability.
    • The site's official rules outline the bet as the House of Representatives passing at least one article of impeachment against Trump during his first term.


    https://markets.businessinsider.com/...9-9-1028550142

  18. #645
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    With all due respect Mr Amash, what have you done...
    He has helped the Neocons try to pressure Trump to stay in and start wars.

    But it will fail.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  19. #646
    LOL I'd love to see a public trial in the Senate as a consequence of a House impeachment vote.

    60 vulnerable House Democrats on the record voting to impeach Trump over an obvious lie?

    You mean Republicans will actually have subpoena power, documents will be made public, hearings will be public, and Trump will be able to defend himself?

    Adam Schiff on the stand, Joe Biden on the stand, Hunter Biden on the stand...

    "Whistle Blower #1" being outed. Oh, and by the way, who told you the second hand information you gathered...? While we're at it, let's call up Mr. Bill Taylor. Hey Bill... who told you to keep trying to get a Trump official to admit to a quid-pro-quo in writing?

    You must be smoking crack if you think the Democrats are this stupid.

    Oh - and P.S. - Amash is a deranged fool.

  20. #647
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He has helped the Neocons try to pressure Trump to stay in and start wars.

    But it will fail.
    Stop being silly. You have no proof of this and please don't say because he voted present.

  21. #648
    The only two main witnesses to this supposed quid pro quo, both said there was no pressure applied.

    All other anonymous coming forward don't even claim to have any first hand knowledge.

    In court, this would get dismissed very quickly.


    All those falling for this obvious fake news narrative are either highly naive or have TDS.


    Ron Paul knew from day one this was fake but some even here on RPF are still posting pro-impeach news because Trump plays their veins like guitar strings.
    Last edited by eleganz; 10-23-2019 at 08:12 PM.
    Rand Paul : Ultimately, if someone's going to accuse you of something that's going to bring down a presidency, I think we deserve to know who that person is.
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    What a grotesque embarrassment Rand has become
    Ron Paul : If you're accused of a crime, you have the right to face your accuser.
    So if Rand Paul holds the same exact position as his father, it makes him embarrassing?

    Hmmm...ok r3volution 3.0



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  23. #649
    More bad news for globalist neoconservatives funded politicians in US and Israel

    Globalist nepconservatives funded politicians seems to be having a bad week. Days after MAGA's top donors Adelsons funded Netanyahu failed to form gov in Israel and admitted defeat, this troubling news out of DC today about their other major political investment in the US:

    Donald Trump Has a Big Problem in the Senate

    A resolution meant to be a show of solidarity by Republicans with the president has instead become a sign of weakness.
    Oct 25, 2019
    David A. Graham

    As the White House struggles to build an anti-impeachment strategy, President Donald Trump turned this week to Lindsey Graham, his staunchest ally in the Senate, to try to stiffen Republican spines in that chamber. It’s not going the way the president must have hoped.

    On Thursday, Graham announced that he’d put forward a resolution condemning the House impeachment inquiry. By mid-afternoon, when he actually announced it, the resolution had been watered down to a plea for a different and more transparent process, apparently a sop to GOP senators unwilling to go quite that far. And yet by Friday morning, only 44 of 53 Republicans in the Senate had signed on to the resolution. A gesture meant to be a show of solidarity by senators has instead become a sign of the weakness of the president’s position.

    The Senate was supposed to be Trump’s firewall in the Ukraine scandal, and there’s still not any reason to believe that there would be 67 senators willing to vote to remove the president. But with impeachment in the House an all-but-foregone conclusion, as I wrote earlier this week, the administration is turning its focus to the Senate, and it’s proving to be less of a redoubt than Trump wanted.

    The New York Times reports:
    After another private meeting Monday night with Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, Mr. Trump began complaining privately that he did not think Senate Republicans were doing enough to have his back. For days, some allies of the president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., had agitated on Twitter for Mr. Graham to do more to try to counteract Democrats in the House.


    Impeachment Just Became Inevitable



    William Taylor Delivers the Smoking Gun


    Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell throws Republican Prez Trump under the bus

    Alleged statement starts at @0:30 mark:

    https://youtu.be/CpFtlP0uZuQ?t=30


    Even if video is not photoshopped, McConnell and MAGA go way back, McConnell could have given him benefit of temporary foregtfullness instead of throwing him under the media train like that (at a critical time when MAGA needed Republicans support after Amb. Taylor's damaging testimony day before that allegedly has sealed the impeachment decision for many in Congress).

  24. #650
    ^^^^^^^
    Yet McConnell's wife is still in Trump's cabinet. Hmmm....
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

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  25. #651
    I cant believe the move to censure Schiff failed. That liar should be removed immediately from congress and arrested for his 2 year campaign of sedition.

  26. #652
    These two developments just a coincidence but nonetheless would be cause for concern for GOP-Adelson wing leadership, pro Iran war donors and Deep Neocons lobbies:


    Oct 28:



    At the end of the third inning, ballpark video screens carried a salute to U.S. service members that drew cheers throughout the stadium. When the video cut to Trump and his entourage and the loudspeakers announced the Trumps, cheers abruptly turned into a torrent of boos and heckling. Chants of "Lock him up!" broke out in some sections.
    Trump appeared unfazed and continued waving. Later, some fans behind home plate held a sign reading "VETERANS FOR IMPEACHMENT". Another banner appeared during the game: "IMPEACH TRUMP!"
    news.yahoo.com/trump-series-visit-comes-high-223943092.html



    Oct 29:

    'He's a patriot': Republicans defend key impeachment witness from attacks

    Senior GOP lawmakers rejected the assault from conservative pundits on Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman.



    Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman told House impeachment investigators that he thought President Donald Trump undermined national security with his Ukraine pressure campaign.
    By BURGESS EVERETT and MELANIE ZANONA

    10/29/2019

    Republican leaders are stepping up to defend Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman against vicious attacks from President Donald Trump's allies.
    Republicans may quibble with the substance of Vindman’s testimony as they try to protect Trump from the fast-moving impeachment inquiry. But congressional GOP leaders say it’s out of bounds to question Vindman’s patriotism and allegiance to the United States, as some conservative pundits did on Monday night.

    Several top Republicans on Tuesday made emphatic statements in support of Vindman, a National Security Council official who heard Trump’s phone call with the Ukrainian president and testified that it was improper for Trump to demand an investigation into Joe Biden and represented a threat to U.S. national security.

    “That guy’s a Purple Heart. I think it would be a mistake to attack his credibility,” South Dakota Sen. John Thune, the No. 2 Senate Republican, said in an interview. “You can obviously take issue with the substance and there are different interpretations about all that stuff. But I wouldn’t go after him personally. He’s a patriot.”
    “I’m not going to question the patriotism of any of the people who come forward," said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), though he declined to comment "on the merit of what’s going forward" or Vindman's suggestion that he was concerned Trump's actions had undermined national security.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...vindman-061057

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